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International Criminal Court

Postby SeattleGriz » Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:46 am

As this is an extension of the UN Security Council, I haven't paid much attention to it, but now that Bolton is saying we aren't participating, my Leftist FB feed is talking about how Trump is doing this to hide his atrocities.

Related to this, did our troops have any sort of prosecutorial protection from the countries they were trying to liberate?

How about war crimes?
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Re: International Criminal Court

Postby SeattleGriz » Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:54 pm

C'mon. Spill it.
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Re: International Criminal Court

Postby CAA Flagship » Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:06 am

SeattleGriz wrote:C'mon. Spill it.

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Re: International Criminal Court

Postby Col Hogan » Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:17 am

I don’t know about the ICC, but reference your question about troops, I have a little info...

During combat, troops are covered by the UCMJ and the Geneva Convention...

During other than combat operations, generally there is a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA)...

During the Obama Administration, the reason given for withdrawing our forces was the lack of a SOFA...

A SOFA outlines, among other things, how alleged crimes involving US personnel will be handled...
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Re: RE: Re: International Criminal Court

Postby SeattleGriz » Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:23 am

CAA Flagship wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:C'mon. Spill it.

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Re: International Criminal Court

Postby CID1990 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:41 pm

SeattleGriz wrote:As this is an extension of the UN Security Council, I haven't paid much attention to it, but now that Bolton is saying we aren't participating, my Leftist FB feed is talking about how Trump is doing this to hide his atrocities.

Related to this, did our troops have any sort of prosecutorial protection from the countries they were trying to liberate?

How about war crimes?


Yes, they had qualified immunity via a MOU with the Iraqi government once it was stood up - the reconstituted Iraqi government was largely Shia (still is) and was all too happy to sign it

for the invasion itself, there may not have been although Im sure a legal opinion was prepared to go




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Re: International Criminal Court

Postby CID1990 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:42 pm

Col Hogan wrote:I don’t know about the ICC, but reference your question about troops, I have a little info...

During combat, troops are covered by the UCMJ and the Geneva Convention...

During other than combat operations, generally there is a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA)...

During the Obama Administration, the reason given for withdrawing our forces was the lack of a SOFA...

A SOFA outlines, among other things, how alleged crimes involving US personnel will be handled...


I called it a MOU but SOFA was the actual term - thanks


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Re: International Criminal Court

Postby houndawg » Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:55 am

CID1990 wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:I don’t know about the ICC, but reference your question about troops, I have a little info...

During combat, troops are covered by the UCMJ and the Geneva Convention...

During other than combat operations, generally there is a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA)...

During the Obama Administration, the reason given for withdrawing our forces was the lack of a SOFA...

A SOFA outlines, among other things, how alleged crimes involving US personnel will be handled...


I called it a MOU but SOFA was the actual term - thanks


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Would a SOFA apply to somebody like Blackwater? Was anybody ever charged over hanging those guys from a bridge and setting them on fire?
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Re: International Criminal Court

Postby CID1990 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:06 am

houndawg wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
I called it a MOU but SOFA was the actual term - thanks


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Would a SOFA apply to somebody like Blackwater? Was anybody ever charged over hanging those guys from a bridge and setting them on fire?


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Re: International Criminal Court

Postby CID1990 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:06 am

CID1990 wrote:
houndawg wrote:
Would a SOFA apply to somebody like Blackwater? Was anybody ever charged over hanging those guys from a bridge and setting them on fire?


They were taken care of the following week



And yes, the SOFA applied to contractors
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Re: International Criminal Court

Postby houndawg » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:14 pm

CID1990 wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
They were taken care of the following week



And yes, the SOFA applied to contractors



Would an Eric Prince report to somebody in the military?
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Re: International Criminal Court

Postby CID1990 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:49 pm

houndawg wrote:
CID1990 wrote:

And yes, the SOFA applied to contractors



Would an Eric Prince report to somebody in the military?


No, the contract manager would


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