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Climate Change Beyond Reversal

Postby Gil Dobie » Wed Aug 08, 2018 5:11 am

It's becoming pretty evident to me, that man will not be able to stop climate change enough to stop the sea level rise. Even the Angry Millennials won't be able to stop or reverse climate change. Might be a good time to start planning population shifts for the new sea levels, dealing with the new heat waves etc.

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Re: Climate Change Beyond Reversal

Postby bluehenbillk » Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:12 am

According to this 93henfan will need to move.
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Re: Climate Change Beyond Reversal

Postby Gil Dobie » Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:23 am

bluehenbillk wrote:According to this 93henfan will need to move.


And he said his recent Midwest trip was a vacation, hmmmm!
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Re: Climate Change Beyond Reversal

Postby 93henfan » Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:34 am

bluehenbillk wrote:According to this 93henfan will need to move.


I’ll be dead way before any of this happens. The biggest concern for SLD in my time would be a La Palma tsunami scenario, but scientists are now saying that’s overblown.

An Atlantic tsunami angled up the mouth of Delaware Bay would pretty much wipe us off the map though, regardless of the trigger. It’d push trillions of gallons of ocean water into a shallow bay with nowhere for it to go but over low land. We’re at about 15 ft above sea level with no elevation features between us and the bay, so see ya. Same with Florida.

And we’d get no airtime whatsoever because of NYC, whose harbor is angled ESE as well. They’re the squeaky wheel.
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Re: Climate Change Beyond Reversal

Postby Ivytalk » Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:44 am

93henfan wrote:
bluehenbillk wrote:According to this 93henfan will need to move.


I’ll be dead way before any of this happens. The biggest concern for SLD in my time would be a La Palma tsunami scenario, but scientists are now saying that’s overblown.

An Atlantic tsunami angled up the mouth of Delaware Bay would pretty much wipe us off the map though, regardless of the trigger. It’d push trillions of gallons of ocean water into a shallow bay with nowhere for it to go but over low land. We’re at about 15 ft above sea level with no elevation features between us and the bay, so see ya. Same with Florida.

And we’d get no airtime whatsoever because of NYC, whose harbor is angled ESE as well. They’re the squeaky wheel.

Look on the bright side, 93. Maybe the tsunami will imitate Sandy by shifting at the last minute, and wipe out NJ. :nod:
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Re: Climate Change Beyond Reversal

Postby AZGrizFan » Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:15 am

Gil Dobie wrote:It's becoming pretty evident to me, that man will not be able to stop climate change enough to stop the sea level rise. Even the Angry Millennials won't be able to stop or reverse climate change. Might be a good time to start planning population shifts for the new sea levels, dealing with the new heat waves etc.

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"Human emissions of greenhouse gas are not the sole determinant of temperature on Earth. Our study suggests that human-induced global warming of 2°C may trigger other Earth system processes, often called 'feedbacks,' that can drive further warming -- even if we stop emitting greenhouse gases," lead author Will Steffen of the Australian National University said.

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Re: Climate Change Beyond Reversal

Postby Winterborn » Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:42 am

Cool. Lots of real state possibility's there. Death Valley will once again be a inland sea.

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Re: Climate Change Beyond Reversal

Postby 89Hen » Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:50 am

Gil Dobie wrote:lead author Will Steffen of the Australian National University said

He was the same guy who predicted major catastrophe from Y2K. :coffee:
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Re: Climate Change Beyond Reversal

Postby andy7171 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:33 am

The ocean aint going to rise 500' I'm safe. So is the good side of Maryland. That map is BS.
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Re: Climate Change Beyond Reversal

Postby Chizzang » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:35 am

89Hen wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:lead author Will Steffen of the Australian National University said

He was the same guy who predicted major catastrophe from Y2K. :coffee:


I'm confused...
are those maps 60 Meters of sea level rise
Jeezus thats 200 feet !!!

What a ridiculous example

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Re: Climate Change Beyond Reversal

Postby Gil Dobie » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:57 am

89Hen wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:lead author Will Steffen of the Australian National University said

He was the same guy who predicted major catastrophe from Y2K. :coffee:


Do you have a link, can't find that info on google?
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Re: Climate Change Beyond Reversal

Postby 89Hen » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:59 am

Gil Dobie wrote:
89Hen wrote:He was the same guy who predicted major catastrophe from Y2K. :coffee:


Do you have a like, can't find that info on google?

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Re: Climate Change Beyond Reversal

Postby Gil Dobie » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:31 pm

Chizzang wrote:
89Hen wrote:He was the same guy who predicted major catastrophe from Y2K. :coffee:


I'm confused...
are those maps 60 Meters of sea level rise
Jeezus thats 200 feet !!!

What a ridiculous example

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I'm with 89 hen on this one


First off, it would take quite a few years for this to happen, hundreds or thousands of years. Second, from what I've read, if all the ice melted on the planet, the sea level would rise about 216 feet. Third, 89hen was able to baffle you with his BS again.
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Re: Climate Change Beyond Reversal

Postby Gil Dobie » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:46 pm

andy7171 wrote:The ocean aint going to rise 500' I'm safe. So is the good side of Maryland. That map is BS.


What is BS about the map? Looks pretty accurate for a 60 meter sea level rise. Whether it rises 60 meters, or not is another story.
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Re: Climate Change Beyond Reversal

Postby css75 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:49 pm

At least it takes SF out, they have been saying this crap forever,


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Re: Climate Change Beyond Reversal

Postby JohnStOnge » Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:55 pm

See to me when people put out stuff like this they get branded as unreasonable. To me there should be a reasonable concern about effects on the climate while recognizing that there is a lot of uncertainty. But stuff like saying there "could" be a 60 m sea level rise, etc. is kind of going over the top.
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Re: Climate Change Beyond Reversal

Postby kalm » Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:55 pm

AZGrizFan wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:It's becoming pretty evident to me, that man will not be able to stop climate change enough to stop the sea level rise. Even the Angry Millennials won't be able to stop or reverse climate change. Might be a good time to start planning population shifts for the new sea levels, dealing with the new heat waves etc.

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"Human emissions of greenhouse gas are not the sole determinant of temperature on Earth. Our study suggests that human-induced global warming of 2°C may trigger other Earth system processes, often called 'feedbacks,' that can drive further warming -- even if we stop emitting greenhouse gases," lead author Will Steffen of the Australian National University said.

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That's some ECB **** right there. :lol: :lol:


Not to mention North America ends at the 46th parallel.
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Re: Climate Change Beyond Reversal

Postby CID1990 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:59 pm

Chizzang wrote:
89Hen wrote:He was the same guy who predicted major catastrophe from Y2K. :coffee:


I'm confused...
are those maps 60 Meters of sea level rise
Jeezus thats 200 feet !!!

What a ridiculous example

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I'm with 89 hen on this one


You beat me to it

Even the most hysterical climate change predictions haven't gone that fully retard

We'll be terraforming Mars before we see a 60 meter rise
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Re: Climate Change Beyond Reversal

Postby Gil Dobie » Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:24 am

CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
I'm confused...
are those maps 60 Meters of sea level rise
Jeezus thats 200 feet !!!

What a ridiculous example

:dunce:

I'm with 89 hen on this one


You beat me to it

Even the most hysterical climate change predictions haven't gone that fully retard

We'll be terraforming Mars before we see a 60 meter rise


60 meters isn't that unrealistic. And there may already be large populations on Mars when/if we see a 60 meter rise in sea level. If it happens, it will be over hundreds or thousands of years. The sea level is 5-8 inches higher than it was in 1900, and it's over 400 feet higher than it was about 20,000 years ago.

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Re: Climate Change Beyond Reversal

Postby kalm » Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:32 am

Gil Dobie wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
You beat me to it

Even the most hysterical climate change predictions haven't gone that fully retard

We'll be terraforming Mars before we see a 60 meter rise


60 meters isn't that unrealistic. And there may already be large populations on Mars when/if we see a 60 meter rise in sea level. If it happens, it will be over hundreds or thousands of years. The sea level is 5-8 inches higher than it was in 1900, and it's over 400 feet higher than it was about 20,000 years ago.

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20,000 years is a very short time. Another example of how quickly things can change came from a lecture I went to given by local naturalist and historian, Jack Nesbitt. According to Jack, the hills surrounding Priest Lake Idaho had sage brush growing on them just 2000 years ago. Even if they were mixed sage brush and forest that's quite a bit of change in a short time

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Re: Climate Change Beyond Reversal

Postby houndawg » Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:08 am

93henfan wrote:
bluehenbillk wrote:According to this 93henfan will need to move.


I’ll be dead way before any of this happens. The biggest concern for SLD in my time would be a La Palma tsunami scenario, but scientists are now saying that’s overblown.

An Atlantic tsunami angled up the mouth of Delaware Bay would pretty much wipe us off the map though, regardless of the trigger. It’d push trillions of gallons of ocean water into a shallow bay with nowhere for it to go but over low land. We’re at about 15 ft above sea level with no elevation features between us and the bay, so see ya. Same with Florida.

And we’d get no airtime whatsoever because of NYC, whose harbor is angled ESE as well. They’re the squeaky wheel.


We had the super-derecho of '09 and nobody knew about it without any other competing disasters
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Re: Climate Change Beyond Reversal

Postby 93henfan » Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:10 am

houndawg wrote:
93henfan wrote:
I’ll be dead way before any of this happens. The biggest concern for SLD in my time would be a La Palma tsunami scenario, but scientists are now saying that’s overblown.

An Atlantic tsunami angled up the mouth of Delaware Bay would pretty much wipe us off the map though, regardless of the trigger. It’d push trillions of gallons of ocean water into a shallow bay with nowhere for it to go but over low land. We’re at about 15 ft above sea level with no elevation features between us and the bay, so see ya. Same with Florida.

And we’d get no airtime whatsoever because of NYC, whose harbor is angled ESE as well. They’re the squeaky wheel.


We had the super-derecho of '09 and nobody knew about it without any other competing disasters


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Re: Climate Change Beyond Reversal

Postby houndawg » Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:12 am

Winterborn wrote:Cool. Lots of real state possibility's there. Death Valley will once again be a inland sea.


And Houndawg Hill will be about a half hour from the ocean :thumb:
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Re: Climate Change Beyond Reversal

Postby houndawg » Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:15 am

93henfan wrote:
houndawg wrote:
We had the super-derecho of '09 and nobody knew about it without any other competing disasters


Living in BFE ain't easy.


But we don't require the constant attention of our less hardy eastern varieties.
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Re: Climate Change Beyond Reversal

Postby 89Hen » Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:05 am

Gil Dobie wrote:The sea level is 5-8 inches higher than it was in 1900, and it's over 400 feet higher than it was about 20,000 years ago.

Wait a minute, I'm calling bullshit. You mean to tell me that the Earth warmed without industrialized man? You're crazy Gil.
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