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Re: Trump announces Brett Kavanaugh as his 2nd SCOTUS nominee.

Postby css75 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:25 am

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JohnStOnge wrote:Do you disagree with the proposition that he lied about that? Do you think someone could've been drinking regularly in high school as an underage drinker and not know he was underage at the time?

I don't have the transcript, but I'm pretty sure he said it was legal for seniors for most of his time in HS. I don't think he ever claimed it was legal for him to drink as a sub-18 kid. This is all you have? :coffee:



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Re: Trump announces Brett Kavanaugh as his 2nd SCOTUS nominee.

Postby Gil Dobie » Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:45 am

89Hen wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:Do you disagree with the proposition that he lied about that? Do you think someone could've been drinking regularly in high school as an underage drinker and not know he was underage at the time?

I don't have the transcript, but I'm pretty sure he said it was legal for seniors for most of his time in HS. I don't think he ever claimed it was legal for him to drink as a sub-18 kid. This is all you have? :coffee:


Drinking age in Maryland change to 21 in 1982, before Kavanaugh was 18. The only way he was legal, was if a parent, spouse or teacher was with him, or he was in DC, which was 18 at the time.
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Re: Trump announces Brett Kavanaugh as his 2nd SCOTUS nominee.

Postby 89Hen » Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:12 am

Gil Dobie wrote:
89Hen wrote:I don't have the transcript, but I'm pretty sure he said it was legal for seniors for most of his time in HS. I don't think he ever claimed it was legal for him to drink as a sub-18 kid. This is all you have? :coffee:


Drinking age in Maryland change to 21 in 1982, before Kavanaugh was 18. The only way he was legal, was if a parent, spouse or teacher was with him, or he was in DC, which was 18 at the time.

Correct but again, I'm pretty sure he said seniors were legal for most of his HS (they were for three of the four years). He never claimed to be legally drinking at age 17 or lower. Am I missing something here?

BTW, Mrs 89 turned 18 on July 2, 1982. The drinking age was changed on July 1, 1982. She literally missed it by one day. :shock:
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Re: Trump announces Brett Kavanaugh as his 2nd SCOTUS nominee.

Postby Gil Dobie » Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:20 am

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Drinking age in Maryland change to 21 in 1982, before Kavanaugh was 18. The only way he was legal, was if a parent, spouse or teacher was with him, or he was in DC, which was 18 at the time.

Correct but again, I'm pretty sure he said seniors were legal for most of his HS (they were for three of the four years). He never claimed to be legally drinking at age 17 or lower. Am I missing something here?

BTW, Mrs 89 turned 18 on July 2, 1982. The drinking age was changed on July 1, 1982. She literally missed it by one day. :shock:


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Re: Trump announces Brett Kavanaugh as his 2nd SCOTUS nominee.

Postby Ivytalk » Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:57 pm

89Hen wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:
Drinking age in Maryland change to 21 in 1982, before Kavanaugh was 18. The only way he was legal, was if a parent, spouse or teacher was with him, or he was in DC, which was 18 at the time.

Correct but again, I'm pretty sure he said seniors were legal for most of his HS (they were for three of the four years). He never claimed to be legally drinking at age 17 or lower. Am I missing something here?

BTW, Mrs 89 turned 18 on July 2, 1982. The drinking age was changed on July 1, 1982. She literally missed it by one day. :shock:

So she’s about 3 years older than you? :?
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Re: Trump announces Brett Kavanaugh as his 2nd SCOTUS nominee.

Postby 89Hen » Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:14 pm

Ivytalk wrote:
89Hen wrote:Correct but again, I'm pretty sure he said seniors were legal for most of his HS (they were for three of the four years). He never claimed to be legally drinking at age 17 or lower. Am I missing something here?

BTW, Mrs 89 turned 18 on July 2, 1982. The drinking age was changed on July 1, 1982. She literally missed it by one day. :shock:

So she’s about 3 years older than you? :?

Almost. 8-)
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Re: Trump announces Brett Kavanaugh as his 2nd SCOTUS nominee.

Postby Chizzang » Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:54 pm

89Hen wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:So she’s about 3 years older than you? :?

Almost. 8-)


I turned 18 just five days before the drinking age change in Maryland in 1982
which grandfathered me in if I remember correctly but I don't ever remember being carded

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Re: Trump announces Brett Kavanaugh as his 2nd SCOTUS nominee.

Postby AZGrizFan » Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:56 pm

Chizzang wrote:
89Hen wrote:Almost. 8-)


I turned 18 just five days before the drinking age change in Maryland in 1982
which grandfathered me in if I remember correctly but I don't ever remember being carded

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Re: Trump announces Brett Kavanaugh as his 2nd SCOTUS nominee.

Postby Chizzang » Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:46 pm

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Chizzang wrote:
I turned 18 just five days before the drinking age change in Maryland in 1982
which grandfathered me in if I remember correctly but I don't ever remember being carded

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Hey,
It's what everybody our age drank in Baltimore... (at that time)
it was cheap is probably why
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Re: Trump announces Brett Kavanaugh as his 2nd SCOTUS nominee.

Postby AZGrizFan » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:10 pm

Chizzang wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote: :puke:


Hey,
It's what everybody our age drank in Baltimore... (at that time)
it was cheap is probably why


I remember in boot camp I made friends with a couple guys from Pennsylvania. We were all going to the same next duty station, so when we left boot camp and went home, I brought them a case of Rainer and they brought me a case of Gennie Cream Ale. Not sure who got the worst of that deal. :lol:
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Re: Trump announces Brett Kavanaugh as his 2nd SCOTUS nominee.

Postby SDHornet » Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:22 pm

AZGrizFan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Hey,
It's what everybody our age drank in Baltimore... (at that time)
it was cheap is probably why


I remember in boot camp I made friends with a couple guys from Pennsylvania. We were all going to the same next duty station, so when we left boot camp and went home, I brought them a case of Rainer and they brought me a case of Gennie Cream Ale. Not sure who got the worst of that deal. :lol:

My buddy who lives in Seattle says it's big with the hipsters (at least the ones too poor to afford craft brew), so they say it with a French(?) accent (Rawneeyea).

I equate Ranier to PBR, which is what all the rednecks in my area drink.

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Postby kalm » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:37 am

SDHornet wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
I remember in boot camp I made friends with a couple guys from Pennsylvania. We were all going to the same next duty station, so when we left boot camp and went home, I brought them a case of Rainer and they brought me a case of Gennie Cream Ale. Not sure who got the worst of that deal. :lol:

My buddy who lives in Seattle says it's big with the hipsters (at least the ones too poor to afford craft brew), so they say it with a French(?) accent (Rawneeyea).

I equate Ranier to PBR, which is what all the rednecks in my area drink.


We used to sell Rainer glass pounders at the course back in the day. Also used to drink the green death once in awhile...

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This was right up there with it though....

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Postby JoltinJoe » Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:19 am

Ivytalk wrote:[Merrick Garland ‘s opinions show that he was in the philosophical pocket of organized labor and the administrative state. So count your blessings.


The media keep talking about Roe. But you're right. The conservatives are really after the administrative state and their primary objective is to overrule Chevron deference.

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Re: Trump announces Brett Kavanaugh as his 2nd SCOTUS nominee.

Postby CAA Flagship » Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:19 am

Chizzang wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote: :puke:


Hey,
It's what everybody our age drank in Baltimore... (at that time)
it was cheap is probably why

Did the same in NJ. :nod:
Although Red, White, and Blue was my "Go To" cheap 6-pack in NJ during the summers.

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Postby Ibanez » Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:22 am

SDHornet wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
I remember in boot camp I made friends with a couple guys from Pennsylvania. We were all going to the same next duty station, so when we left boot camp and went home, I brought them a case of Rainer and they brought me a case of Gennie Cream Ale. Not sure who got the worst of that deal. :lol:

My buddy who lives in Seattle says it's big with the hipsters (at least the ones too poor to afford craft brew), so they say it with a French(?) accent (Rawneeyea).

I equate Ranier to PBR, which is what all the rednecks in my area drink.

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Postby Col Hogan » Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:48 am

JoltinJoe wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:[Merrick Garland ‘s opinions show that he was in the philosophical pocket of organized labor and the administrative state. So count your blessings.


The media keep talking about Roe. But you're right. The conservatives are really after the administrative state and their primary objective is to overrule Chevron deference.


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Re: Trump announces Brett Kavanaugh as his 2nd SCOTUS nominee.

Postby Ivytalk » Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:59 am

JoltinJoe wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:[Merrick Garland ‘s opinions show that he was in the philosophical pocket of organized labor and the administrative state. So count your blessings.


The media keep talking about Roe. But you're right. The conservatives are really after the administrative state and their primary objective is to overrule Chevron deference.

Somebody better give John Roberts a tutorial on Chevron.
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Re: Trump announces Brett Kavanaugh as his 2nd SCOTUS nominee.

Postby GannonFan » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:09 am

Ivytalk wrote:
JoltinJoe wrote:
The media keep talking about Roe. But you're right. The conservatives are really after the administrative state and their primary objective is to overrule Chevron deference.

Somebody better give John Roberts a tutorial on Chevron.


Thanks for the heads up, like Col, I'm a little more informed now as well. Maybe Gorsuch is the one who should be talking to Roberts.
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Re: Trump announces Brett Kavanaugh as his 2nd SCOTUS nominee.

Postby JoltinJoe » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:06 am

Ivytalk wrote:
JoltinJoe wrote:
The media keep talking about Roe. But you're right. The conservatives are really after the administrative state and their primary objective is to overrule Chevron deference.

Somebody better give John Roberts a tutorial on Chevron.


I assume you are referencing his ACA decision?
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Postby UNI88 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:55 am

Ivytalk wrote:
89Hen wrote:Correct but again, I'm pretty sure he said seniors were legal for most of his HS (they were for three of the four years). He never claimed to be legally drinking at age 17 or lower. Am I missing something here?

BTW, Mrs 89 turned 18 on July 2, 1982. The drinking age was changed on July 1, 1982. She literally missed it by one day. :shock:

So she’s about 3 years older than you? :?
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Re: Trump announces Brett Kavanaugh as his 2nd SCOTUS nominee.

Postby houndawg » Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:14 am

CID1990 wrote:Here's how far we've all fallen when it comes to substance...

We are borking Kavanaugh because of an unsubstantiated accusation of sexual assault ... and perusing his yearbook to see if he did what dumb teen boys do

There's literally zero evidence that he has problems with stare decisis - which would be an issue for all the Roe people. But even IF Roe was in fact overturned, abortion rights would likely increase in about 80% of the country, would be redefined and limited to 24 weeks of gestation in the other 19% and MAYBE would wind up being illegal altogether in maybe Mississippi - so the Roe concern is not a substantive concern, at least not in comparison to teen "boofing"... according to all us children

But Kavanaugh does present a threat civil liberties that affect every last one of us, and nobody really gives a damn about it. Kavanaugh has been very clear that he finds warrantless surveillance, such as the NSA collection of metadata to be perfectly in sync with the 4th Amendment. That, to me, is disqualifying ... more so than anything else

And it is telling that nobody in the Senate Jud Committee, on either side, or anybody else in the country for that matter thinks it is worth going after him on it. Not a peep. Democrats are big government statists... that's been obvious for years. But not one Republican has brought this issue up in any substantive way. There have been mentions of it, but nobody has made the stink it deserves




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Postby 93henfan » Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:24 am

Chizzang wrote:
89Hen wrote:Almost. 8-)


I turned 18 just five days before the drinking age change in Maryland in 1982
which grandfathered me in if I remember correctly but I don't ever remember being carded

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That stuff was huge in the 70s and early 80s for sure in this region. I basically grew up in and around a campground my grandfather owned in Slower DE that was patronized primarily by fishermen from Pennsylvania. They were knocking back cases of that **** every night.

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Re: Trump announces Brett Kavanaugh as his 2nd SCOTUS nominee.

Postby JohnStOnge » Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:33 pm

89Hen wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:Do you disagree with the proposition that he lied about that? Do you think someone could've been drinking regularly in high school as an underage drinker and not know he was underage at the time?

I don't have the transcript, but I'm pretty sure he said it was legal for seniors for most of his time in HS. I don't think he ever claimed it was legal for him to drink as a sub-18 kid. This is all you have? :coffee:


It was never legal for him to drink in high school in Maryland while he was in high school. It was legal for him to drink in high school if he went to Washington DC to do it for 3 months during February to May 1983. He was clearly trying to mislead. He was clearly trying to create the impression that he didn't do anything illegal.

Would you care to bet on what would happen if they decided, just for the heck of it, to do an inquiry into the question of whether he ever drank in Maryland while he was in High School? The guy clearly showed a willingness to mischaracterize his behavior.

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Re: Trump announces Brett Kavanaugh as his 2nd SCOTUS nominee.

Postby HI54UNI » Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:47 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:
89Hen wrote:I don't have the transcript, but I'm pretty sure he said it was legal for seniors for most of his time in HS. I don't think he ever claimed it was legal for him to drink as a sub-18 kid. This is all you have? :coffee:


It was never legal for him to drink in high school in Maryland while he was in high school. It was legal for him to drink in high school if he went to Washington DC to do it for 3 months during February to May 1983. He was clearly trying to mislead. He was clearly trying to create the impression that he didn't do anything illegal.

Would you care to bet on what would happen if they decided, just for the heck of it, to do an inquiry into the question of whether he ever drank in Maryland while he was in High School? The guy clearly showed a willingness to mischaracterize his behavior.

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No one cares. He's been confirmed. You seriously need to go see a counselor about your TDS. If Kavanaugh had been nominated by GWB you'd be spewing electronic diarrhea about how great he is. Seriously, please get some help.

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Re: Trump announces Brett Kavanaugh as his 2nd SCOTUS nominee.

Postby AZGrizFan » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:57 pm

HI54UNI wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
It was never legal for him to drink in high school in Maryland while he was in high school. It was legal for him to drink in high school if he went to Washington DC to do it for 3 months during February to May 1983. He was clearly trying to mislead. He was clearly trying to create the impression that he didn't do anything illegal.

Would you care to bet on what would happen if they decided, just for the heck of it, to do an inquiry into the question of whether he ever drank in Maryland while he was in High School? The guy clearly showed a willingness to mischaracterize his behavior.

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No one cares. He's been confirmed. You seriously need to go see a counselor about your TDS. If Kavanaugh had been nominated by GWB you'd be spewing electronic diarrhea about how great he is. Seriously, please get some help.

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That would DEFINITELY help me... :shock:
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