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Re: Blue Wave 2018

Postby AZGrizFan » Tue May 15, 2018 7:00 pm

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I’d show you my ballot, but with dipshits like you even that wouldn’t be enough.
Guess you’ll just have to take the word of an officer and a gentleman.


Who could doubt the word of an officer and gentleman that recognized the political genius of Sarah Palin long before the rest of us? :coffee:

See? If THAT’S not evidence enough I don’t know what is.

And in fact, her and McCain are the last mainstream candidates I voted for.
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Re: Blue Wave 2018

Postby Chizzang » Tue May 15, 2018 8:48 pm

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Russian election meddling worked - enough that AZ thought ANTIFA was rioting all over America...
and you though they were as numerous at the Deplorable's

The continual social media bombardment from Russian funded sources of radical black activists
Creating the appearance of a Nation in chaotic turmoil was successful
it mobilized states like Pennsylvania and Ohio without question..!!!

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and it's still largely misunderstood by Conservatives
as shown here

So ANTIFA is a product of the Russians?

My niece (a proud member) will be crushed.


That might be the dumbest thing you've ever posted...
And you posted some doozies

ANTIFA is real and nobody disputes that and so is BLM
But neither organization spent a dollar advertising on social media in Ohio and Pennsylvania
Yet somehow those states were absolutely plastered with BLM and ANTIFA rhetoric

If you can't see that having an awakening (even terrifying) effect on regular folks you're willfully stupid
and it already worked on you as it had you believing a falsehood
and even good ol balanced keel CID was aroused by the misinformation campaign

It worked... That much is patently obvious
To what extent exactly is yet undetermined

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Re: Blue Wave 2018

Postby CID1990 » Tue May 15, 2018 11:56 pm

Chizzang wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:So ANTIFA is a product of the Russians?

My niece (a proud member) will be crushed.


That might be the dumbest thing you've ever posted...
And you posted some doozies

ANTIFA is real and nobody disputes that and so is BLM
But neither organization spent a dollar advertising on social media in Ohio and Pennsylvania
Yet somehow those states were absolutely plastered with BLM and ANTIFA rhetoric

If you can't see that having an awakening (even terrifying) effect on regular folks you're willfully stupid
and it already worked on you as it had you believing a falsehood
and even good ol balanced keel CID was aroused by the misinformation campaign

It worked... That much is patently obvious
To what extent exactly is yet undetermined

:nod:


I was aroused by BLM's genesis in the wake of Ferguson - the complete fiction driven anger of it

After that, I have obliquely commented on BLM - but I have never considered them some kind of existential threat to anything other than themselves and Democratic congressional hopes. Just as I don't consider white nationalist groups to be more than widely dispersed rabble. These groups all eventually find their Robespierre and then they're gone

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Re: Blue Wave 2018

Postby GannonFan » Wed May 16, 2018 7:04 am

Chizzang wrote:But neither organization spent a dollar advertising on social media in Ohio and Pennsylvania
Yet somehow those states were absolutely plastered with BLM and ANTIFA rhetoric

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Can't really speak for Ohio, but having lived in Pennsylvania for the past 30 some odd years I can't really agree that Pennsylvania was "absolutely plastered with BLM and ANTIFA rhetoric" in the lead up to the 2016 election. It just wasn't. Heck, most of the ANTIFA stuff didn't really come to public attention until the Charlottesville rioting and that came well after the election. Democrats ignored most of PA in the 2016 election, that had a far greater impact than any "plastering" of "rhetoric" did.
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Re: Blue Wave 2018

Postby Chizzang » Wed May 16, 2018 7:52 am

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Chizzang wrote:But neither organization spent a dollar advertising on social media in Ohio and Pennsylvania
Yet somehow those states were absolutely plastered with BLM and ANTIFA rhetoric

:


Can't really speak for Ohio, but having lived in Pennsylvania for the past 30 some odd years I can't really agree that Pennsylvania was "absolutely plastered with BLM and ANTIFA rhetoric" in the lead up to the 2016 election. It just wasn't. Heck, most of the ANTIFA stuff didn't really come to public attention until the Charlottesville rioting and that came well after the election. Democrats ignored most of PA in the 2016 election, that had a far greater impact than any "plastering" of "rhetoric" did.


So you understand how facebook and social media advertising works right..?
Do you have a gun license
Are you a registered Republican
Does your router location and zip code match the demographic..?

:lol:

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Re: Blue Wave 2018

Postby GannonFan » Wed May 16, 2018 8:46 am

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Can't really speak for Ohio, but having lived in Pennsylvania for the past 30 some odd years I can't really agree that Pennsylvania was "absolutely plastered with BLM and ANTIFA rhetoric" in the lead up to the 2016 election. It just wasn't. Heck, most of the ANTIFA stuff didn't really come to public attention until the Charlottesville rioting and that came well after the election. Democrats ignored most of PA in the 2016 election, that had a far greater impact than any "plastering" of "rhetoric" did.


So you understand how facebook and social media advertising works right..?
Do you have a gun license
Are you a registered Republican
Does your router location and zip code match the demographic..?

:lol:

You see what it wants you to see


Yes, I do, thank you very much. And my circle of friends are wide and varied in terms of the political spectrum, from the Women's Studies prof to the brother-in-law who's an ex-Marine and living in god's country. Nobody was talking about ANTIFA and BLM wasn't a major issue. Hillary lost PA because she didn't come here and because she was more unlikeable than Trump in the minds of the voters and she didn't appeal to the Obama voters who came out in the previous elections. If she campaigns differently it wouldn't even be a discussion.
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Re: Blue Wave 2018

Postby Chizzang » Wed May 16, 2018 8:56 am

GannonFan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
So you understand how facebook and social media advertising works right..?
Do you have a gun license
Are you a registered Republican
Does your router location and zip code match the demographic..?

:lol:

You see what it wants you to see


Yes, I do, thank you very much. And my circle of friends are wide and varied in terms of the political spectrum, from the Women's Studies prof to the brother-in-law who's an ex-Marine and living in god's country. Nobody was talking about ANTIFA and BLM wasn't a major issue. Hillary lost PA because she didn't come here and because she was more unlikeable than Trump in the minds of the voters and she didn't appeal to the Obama voters who came out in the previous elections. If she campaigns differently it wouldn't even be a discussion.


Well there you have it...
Thank you for solving that problem and clearing up all the confusion
all the folks of Western Pennsylvania thank you for your assistance

Your "I know, because my friends" isn't at all anecdotal
and absolutely without question speaks for all the residence of Western PA

:rofl:

Feel free to tackle Ohio when you have a minute...
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Re: Blue Wave 2018

Postby GannonFan » Wed May 16, 2018 9:15 am

Chizzang wrote:
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Yes, I do, thank you very much. And my circle of friends are wide and varied in terms of the political spectrum, from the Women's Studies prof to the brother-in-law who's an ex-Marine and living in god's country. Nobody was talking about ANTIFA and BLM wasn't a major issue. Hillary lost PA because she didn't come here and because she was more unlikeable than Trump in the minds of the voters and she didn't appeal to the Obama voters who came out in the previous elections. If she campaigns differently it wouldn't even be a discussion.


Well there you have it...
Thank you for solving that problem and clearing up all the confusion
all the folks of Western Pennsylvania thank you for your assistance

Your "I know, because my friends" isn't at all anecdotal
and absolutely without question speaks for all the residence of Western PA

:rofl:

Feel free to tackle Ohio when you have a minute...


Just taking a page from your book - you just know that all of those folks were 1) plastered with ads 2) were dumb enough not to recognize they were fake and 3) were so incensed by the ads (because they were simpletons) that they voted for Trump. Because how could they vote for him otherwise? I'm sure all the folks of Western Pennsylvania are grateful for your condescending care and consideration for their well being and that you are gifting them with your superior awesomeness. You're a saint (well, a non-religious equivalent). :rofl:
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Re: Blue Wave 2018

Postby Chizzang » Wed May 16, 2018 10:59 am

GannonFan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Well there you have it...
Thank you for solving that problem and clearing up all the confusion
all the folks of Western Pennsylvania thank you for your assistance

Your "I know, because my friends" isn't at all anecdotal
and absolutely without question speaks for all the residence of Western PA

:rofl:

Feel free to tackle Ohio when you have a minute...


Just taking a page from your book - you just know that all of those folks were 1) plastered with ads 2) were dumb enough not to recognize they were fake and 3) were so incensed by the ads (because they were simpletons) that they voted for Trump. Because how could they vote for him otherwise? I'm sure all the folks of Western Pennsylvania are grateful for your condescending care and consideration for their well being and that you are gifting them with your superior awesomeness. You're a saint (well, a non-religious equivalent). :rofl:


It's very difficult to tell what's real and what isn't
Ask AZ he was manipulated by it as was I

And you were not taking a page out of my book
I never claimed anybody was dumb

Millions of people believe that Jesus re-appeared in the Utah desert
I don't think it's that difficult to manipulate regular old human beings
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Re: Blue Wave 2018

Postby Pwns » Wed May 16, 2018 11:32 am

Honestly, it didn't even really take much work from Russian trolls.

The schitshow at Mizzou, the protest blocking highways, all the riots and protests in Ferguson and Baltimore over what was nothing...that was way more powerful than anything bots speaking broken English over twitter could put forward.
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Re: Blue Wave 2018

Postby ∞∞∞ » Wed May 16, 2018 11:45 am

Do none of you run ad blocking? I don't think I've seen an internet ad for years.

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Re: Blue Wave 2018

Postby AZGrizFan » Wed May 16, 2018 12:28 pm

Chizzang wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:So ANTIFA is a product of the Russians?

My niece (a proud member) will be crushed.


That might be the dumbest thing you've ever posted...
And you posted some doozies

ANTIFA is real and nobody disputes that and so is BLM
But neither organization spent a dollar advertising on social media in Ohio and Pennsylvania
Yet somehow those states were absolutely plastered with BLM and ANTIFA rhetoric

:nod:


and you know this how? because mainstream media told you so?
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Re: Blue Wave 2018

Postby AZGrizFan » Wed May 16, 2018 12:31 pm

Chizzang wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Yes, I do, thank you very much. And my circle of friends are wide and varied in terms of the political spectrum, from the Women's Studies prof to the brother-in-law who's an ex-Marine and living in god's country. Nobody was talking about ANTIFA and BLM wasn't a major issue. Hillary lost PA because she didn't come here and because she was more unlikeable than Trump in the minds of the voters and she didn't appeal to the Obama voters who came out in the previous elections. If she campaigns differently it wouldn't even be a discussion.


Well there you have it...
Thank you for solving that problem and clearing up all the confusion
all the folks of Western Pennsylvania thank you for your assistance

Your "I know, because my friends" isn't at all anecdotal
and absolutely without question speaks for all the residence of Western PA

:rofl:

Feel free to tackle Ohio when you have a minute...


Says the guy who just spoke for all the people of two states. :dunce: :dunce:

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Re: Blue Wave 2018

Postby Chizzang » Wed May 16, 2018 4:02 pm

AZGrizFan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
That might be the dumbest thing you've ever posted...
And you posted some doozies

ANTIFA is real and nobody disputes that and so is BLM
But neither organization spent a dollar advertising on social media in Ohio and Pennsylvania
Yet somehow those states were absolutely plastered with BLM and ANTIFA rhetoric

:nod:


and you know this how? because mainstream media told you so?


Holy Cow... :lol:

You don't read much do you - there were these 13 indictments recently
Look this guy up Yevgeny V. Prigozhin and his company https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency
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Re: Blue Wave 2018

Postby Chizzang » Wed May 16, 2018 4:04 pm

AZGrizFan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Well there you have it...
Thank you for solving that problem and clearing up all the confusion
all the folks of Western Pennsylvania thank you for your assistance

Your "I know, because my friends" isn't at all anecdotal
and absolutely without question speaks for all the residence of Western PA

:rofl:

Feel free to tackle Ohio when you have a minute...


Says the guy who just spoke for all the people of two states. :dunce: :dunce:

*residents :dunce: :dunce:


I'm speaking on behalf of the Department of Justice of the United States of America
and the well documented Russian indictments for meddling in the Election

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Re: Blue Wave 2018

Postby JohnStOnge » Wed May 16, 2018 6:46 pm

Look, let's just hope that the Democrats win a majority in at least one House of Congress so that we can have a real investigation into the obvious corruption associated with the Trump Administration. Yes, it'll be biased the other way. But that's better than the situation is right now. I'm a lot more concerned about having this corruption and having the Republicans run interference for it than I am about the Democrats trying to go too far. I think that there is a lot more danger in having a political party cover up as is going on now than to have a political party try to show misconduct when there is none.
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Re: Blue Wave 2018

Postby Ibanez » Thu May 17, 2018 7:38 am

JohnStOnge wrote:Look, let's just hope that the Democrats win a majority in at least one House of Congress so that we can have a real investigation into the obvious corruption associated with the Trump Administration. Yes, it'll be biased the other way. But that's better than the situation is right now. I'm a lot more concerned about having this corruption and having the Republicans run interference for it than I am about the Democrats trying to go too far. I think that there is a lot more danger in having a political party cover up as is going on now than to have a political party try to show misconduct when there is none.

Isn't that what is happening now with Mueller? Trumps own DoJ started it.
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Re: Blue Wave 2018

Postby AZGrizFan » Thu May 17, 2018 7:42 am

Chizzang wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Says the guy who just spoke for all the people of two states. :dunce: :dunce:

*residents :dunce: :dunce:


I'm speaking on behalf of the Department of Justice of the United States of America
and the well documented Russian indictments for meddling in the Election

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Re: Blue Wave 2018

Postby HI54UNI » Thu May 17, 2018 10:11 am

∞∞∞ wrote:Do none of you run ad blocking? I don't think I've seen an internet ad for years.


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Re: Blue Wave 2018

Postby CAA Flagship » Thu May 17, 2018 1:28 pm

∞∞∞ wrote:Do none of you run ad blocking? I don't think I've seen an internet ad for years.

Pop-ups are blocked. But the ones embedded in the pages still come through. I was talking to my wife about that. I barely see them, and never click on them. Especially the ones on the phone apps. Same goes with ones in magazines and newspapers. I just ignore them to get to what I want to see. I don't understand how companies spend so much money on them. IMO, TV advertising is the most effective and it is dying.

I laugh at the targeted ads. If I do a search for something to buy, and then buy it, I'll see an ad pop up for the thing I just bought. :dunce: :dunce: :ohno: :ohno:

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Re: Blue Wave 2018

Postby JohnStOnge » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:07 pm

Now this is interesting:

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/p ... 697671002/

There's discussion of a poll of Ohio and here is the question/answer distribution that is notable:

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48.8% of respondents said they want their vote to change the direction President Trump is leading the nation vs. 27.6% who said they support the direction President Trump is leading the nation.
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Re: Blue Wave 2018

Postby JohnStOnge » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:10 pm

Ibanez wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:Look, let's just hope that the Democrats win a majority in at least one House of Congress so that we can have a real investigation into the obvious corruption associated with the Trump Administration. Yes, it'll be biased the other way. But that's better than the situation is right now. I'm a lot more concerned about having this corruption and having the Republicans run interference for it than I am about the Democrats trying to go too far. I think that there is a lot more danger in having a political party cover up as is going on now than to have a political party try to show misconduct when there is none.

Isn't that what is happening now with Mueller? Trumps own DoJ started it.


No because it's reasonable to believe that if Mueller finds stuff on Trump and the Republicans are still in charge of both houses of Congress they will just spike it. It's pretty obvious that the Republican Congress is running interference for Trump right now. We need the Democrats in control of at least one House.
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Re: Blue Wave 2018

Postby AZGrizFan » Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:28 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:Now this is interesting:

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/p ... 697671002/

There's discussion of a poll of Ohio and here is the question/answer distribution that is notable:

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48.8% of respondents said they want their vote to change the direction President Trump is leading the nation vs. 27.6% who said they support the direction President Trump is leading the nation.


Interesting. The same 48% who voted for the bitch.
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Re: Blue Wave 2018

Postby Ivytalk » Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:33 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:
Ibanez wrote:Isn't that what is happening now with Mueller? Trumps own DoJ started it.


No because it's reasonable to believe that if Mueller finds stuff on Trump and the Republicans are still in charge of both houses of Congress they will just spike it. It's pretty obvious that the Republican Congress is running interference for Trump right now. We need the Democrats in control of at least one House.


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Re: Blue Wave 2018

Postby SDHornet » Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:14 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:
Ibanez wrote:Isn't that what is happening now with Mueller? Trumps own DoJ started it.


No because it's reasonable to believe that if Mueller finds stuff on Trump and the Republicans are still in charge of both houses of Congress they will just spike it. It's pretty obvious that the Republican Congress is running interference for Trump right now. We need the Democrats in control of at least one House.

So can you explain how a mentally ill person (your words) like Trump has been able to hide/cover up his Russian collusion from the DOJ, FBI, CIA this long? What is taking Mueller so long? Wouldn't such evidence be so readily available that Trump would have been impeached by now?

Maybe this should be moved to the thread that is dedicated to it...you know the one jellybelly started a year and a half ago.

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