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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby JohnStOnge » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:55 pm

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And do you think that has something to do with Trump?

Is he trumpeting (see what I did there? 8-) ) policies that would inhibit this activity?


Bottom line is that it's another trend that started well before Trump took office. The image below depicts it. The upward trend started somewhere between 2007 and 2010. It's not because of Trump. Just like declining unemployment wasn't because of Trump. And GDP growth wasn't/isn't because of Trump. So on and so forth.

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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby SDHornet » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:58 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:
SDHornet wrote:Is he trumpeting (see what I did there? 8-) ) policies that would inhibit this activity?


Bottom line is that it's another trend that started well before Trump took office. The image below depicts it. The upward trend started somewhere between 2007 and 2010. It's not because of Trump. Just like declining unemployment wasn't because of Trump. And GDP growth wasn't/isn't because of Trump. So on and so forth.

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So the answer is no. Thanks for playing. :thumb:

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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby JohnStOnge » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:07 pm

SDHornet wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
Bottom line is that it's another trend that started well before Trump took office. The image below depicts it. The upward trend started somewhere between 2007 and 2010. It's not because of Trump. Just like declining unemployment wasn't because of Trump. And GDP growth wasn't/isn't because of Trump. So on and so forth.

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So the answer is no. Thanks for playing. :thumb:


He would not have been doing anything to inhibit the activity if he'd stayed where he belongs and never run for President. He's not the reason for it. He's not the reason for the rate of GDP growth we have. He's not the reason for what the unemployment rate is right now. So on and so forth. America was great before he took office. And the idea that there has been any improvement in that regard since he took office is nonsense.
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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby SDHornet » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:17 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:
SDHornet wrote:So the answer is no. Thanks for playing. :thumb:


He would not have been doing anything to inhibit the activity if he'd stayed where he belongs and never run for President. He's not the reason for it. He's not the reason for the rate of GDP growth we have. He's not the reason for what the unemployment rate is right now. So on and so forth. America was great before he took office. And the idea that there has been any improvement in that regard since he took office is nonsense.

Not what I asked/stated.

One candidate went out of their way to state fossil fuel jobs would be replaced with green jobs. The candidate that won did not make such ridiculous claims.

Again, thanks for playing. :thumb:

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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby BDKJMU » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:15 pm

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SDHornet wrote:So the answer is no. Thanks for playing. :thumb:


He would not have been doing anything to inhibit the activity if he'd stayed where he belongs and never run for President. He's not the reason for it. He's not the reason for the rate of GDP growth we have. He's not the reason for what the unemployment rate is right now. So on and so forth. America was great before he took office. And the idea that there has been any improvement in that regard since he took office is nonsense.
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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby houndawg » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:42 am

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I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about your personal safety in times that are getting increasingly edgy - remember that the base doesn't know you agree with them and they're going to judge you by whose side you look like you're on. Keep that MAGA hat close and make sure you're wearing it if the crowd is all white.

Just sayin...:coffee:

I love how an independent thinking Brown guy triggers you into making pseudo racial violence threats. :lol: :dunce:

Speaking of violence, here are some of your neo-Marxist buddies getting knocked the **** out in Portland just last week. :lol: 8-)
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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby SDHornet » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:23 pm

houndawg wrote:
SDHornet wrote:I love how an independent thinking Brown guy triggers you into making pseudo racial violence threats. :lol: :dunce:

Speaking of violence, here are some of your neo-Marxist buddies getting knocked the **** out in Portland just last week. :lol: 8-)
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...just an accurate description of the border situation right now...good luck to you and yours, bro, because right now little brown kids are worth $700/day/kid. That's a cool $20,000,000/year for Betsy deVos prison company and probably ten times that for Jeff Sessions' prison companies. :rofl: Want to bet on how many of those kids will still be in custody a year from now?

Me and mine are legal, nice try though.

And what do the consequences of illegally crossing the border have to do with your neo-Marxist comrades getting their **** pushed in have to do with this? :? :rofl: 8-)

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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby houndawg » Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:43 am

SDHornet wrote:
houndawg wrote:

...just an accurate description of the border situation right now...good luck to you and yours, bro, because right now little brown kids are worth $700/day/kid. That's a cool $20,000,000/year for Betsy deVos prison company and probably ten times that for Jeff Sessions' prison companies. :rofl: Want to bet on how many of those kids will still be in custody a year from now?


Me and mine are legal, nice try though.

And what do the consequences of illegally crossing the border have to do with your neo-Marxist comrades getting their **** pushed in have to do with this? :? :rofl: 8-)


It may take them quite a while to ascertain that...especially at $700/day. :coffee:
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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby CAA Flagship » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:46 am

".....just a continuation of Obama..." :coffee:

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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby houndawg » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:26 am

SDHornet wrote:
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He would not have been doing anything to inhibit the activity if he'd stayed where he belongs and never run for President. He's not the reason for it. He's not the reason for the rate of GDP growth we have. He's not the reason for what the unemployment rate is right now. So on and so forth. America was great before he took office. And the idea that there has been any improvement in that regard since he took office is nonsense.

Not what I asked/stated.

One candidate went out of their way to state fossil fuel jobs would be replaced with green jobs. The candidate that won did not make such ridiculous claims.

Again, thanks for playing. :thumb:



..you're claiming cause and effect? :?
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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby AZGrizFan » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:49 am

CAA Flagship wrote:".....just a continuation of Obama..." :coffee:

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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby AZGrizFan » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:52 am

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He would not have been doing anything to inhibit the activity if he'd stayed where he belongs and never run for President. He's not the reason for it. He's not the reason for the rate of GDP growth we have. He's not the reason for what the unemployment rate is right now. So on and so forth. America was great before he took office. And the idea that there has been any improvement in that regard since he took office is nonsense.


Business sentiment at all time highs. Consumer confidence high and increasing.

Looks like most people/businesses don’t agree with you.
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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby JohnStOnge » Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:53 pm

SDHornet wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
He would not have been doing anything to inhibit the activity if he'd stayed where he belongs and never run for President. He's not the reason for it. He's not the reason for the rate of GDP growth we have. He's not the reason for what the unemployment rate is right now. So on and so forth. America was great before he took office. And the idea that there has been any improvement in that regard since he took office is nonsense.

Not what I asked/stated.

One candidate went out of their way to state fossil fuel jobs would be replaced with green jobs. The candidate that won did not make such ridiculous claims.

Again, thanks for playing. :thumb:


I asked you if you thought the increase in oil production n the United States is because of Trump. There was nothing in the post to which I responded about the extent to which fossil fuel jobs would be replaced by Green jobs. Donald Trump is not the reason for anything going on with oil production in the United States. Donald Trump is not the reason for why the economy is relatively good right now. So on and so forth. The only thing Donald Trump is the reason for is the United States being the laughing stock of the planet.

America (the United States) is substantially "less great" right now than it was two years ago. And that's because we had a sufficient number of dumbasses in the electorate to end up in a situation where somebody like that is the President.
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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby JohnStOnge » Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:59 pm

AZGrizFan wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote:".....just a continuation of Obama..." :coffee:

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:lol: :lol:


The point at which your line inflects upward at the end represents a date prior to the 2016 election. Also, in percent growth terms, 2013 was a better year than 2017.
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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby kalm » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:37 pm

AZGrizFan wrote:
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Business sentiment at all time highs. Consumer confidence high and increasing.

Looks like most people/businesses don’t agree with you.


Hell yes! It’s taken a decade but we’re back up to 2007 levels!
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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby AZGrizFan » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:44 pm

kalm wrote:
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Business sentiment at all time highs. Consumer confidence high and increasing.

Looks like most people/businesses don’t agree with you.


Hell yes! It’s taken a decade but we’re back up to 2007 levels!


Business sentiment highest in 45 years. :nod:
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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby AZGrizFan » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:45 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote: :lol: :lol:


The point at which your line inflects upward at the end represents a date prior to the 2016 election. Also, in percent growth terms, 2013 was a better year than 2017.


And in “percentage terms” there was ZERO growth between middle of 2015 and the election. Wanna lose this argument again? :coffee:
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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby kalm » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:55 pm

AZGrizFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
Hell yes! It’s taken a decade but we’re back up to 2007 levels!


Business sentiment highest in 45 years. :nod:


The graphs I quickly looked at had the dot.com bubble a little higher. Regardless, does it make you a little nervous?
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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby AZGrizFan » Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:39 am

kalm wrote:
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Business sentiment highest in 45 years. :nod:


The graphs I quickly looked at had the dot.com bubble a little higher. Regardless, does it make you a little nervous?


What makes me nervous is the treasury curve. :shock: :shock:

Spread between 2-10 yr treasuries down to 18 basis points. An inverted yield curve has preceded every recession for the last 50 years....
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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby JohnStOnge » Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:38 pm

AZGrizFan wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
The point at which your line inflects upward at the end represents a date prior to the 2016 election. Also, in percent growth terms, 2013 was a better year than 2017.


And in “percentage terms” there was ZERO growth between middle of 2015 and the election. Wanna lose this argument again? :coffee:


Yes things were pretty much flat not only from the middle of 2015 but earlier than that. In fact calendar year 2015 had a negative return (-2.23%). But when you look at the Dow over time this is not outside of normal variation. There was a 25.08 DJIA return in 2017 after there had been a 13.42% return in 2016. That's great.

But were you raving about what a great job Obama was doing when there was a 26.50% return in 2013 after a 7.26% return in 2012?

Also, there is still this problem: The upswing you're talking about started BEFORE election day 2016. Now, to be honest, there was another upward inflection around the end of 2017. But then it peaked in late January 2018 and things are down since then.
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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby Ivytalk » Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:03 pm

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AZGrizFan wrote:
And in “percentage terms” there was ZERO growth between middle of 2015 and the election. Wanna lose this argument again? :coffee:


Yes things were pretty much flat not only from the middle of 2015 but earlier than that. In fact calendar year 2015 had a negative return (-2.23%). But when you look at the Dow over time this is not outside of normal variation. There was a 25.08 DJIA return in 2017 after there had been a 13.42% return in 2016. That's great.

But were you raving about what a great job Obama was doing when there was a 26.50% return in 2013 after a 7.26% return in 2012?

Also, there is still this problem: The upswing you're talking about started BEFORE election day 2016. Now, to be honest, there was another upward inflection around the end of 2017. But then it peaked in late January 2018 and things are down since then.

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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby SDHornet » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:33 pm

houndawg wrote:
SDHornet wrote:Not what I asked/stated.

One candidate went out of their way to state fossil fuel jobs would be replaced with green jobs. The candidate that won did not make such ridiculous claims.

Again, thanks for playing. :thumb:



..you're claiming cause and effect? :?

Not what I said, read it again...slower next time...

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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby SDHornet » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:34 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:
SDHornet wrote:Not what I asked/stated.

One candidate went out of their way to state fossil fuel jobs would be replaced with green jobs. The candidate that won did not make such ridiculous claims.

Again, thanks for playing. :thumb:


I asked you if you thought the increase in oil production n the United States is because of Trump. There was nothing in the post to which I responded about the extent to which fossil fuel jobs would be replaced by Green jobs. Donald Trump is not the reason for anything going on with oil production in the United States. Donald Trump is not the reason for why the economy is relatively good right now. So on and so forth. The only thing Donald Trump is the reason for is the United States being the laughing stock of the planet.

America (the United States) is substantially "less great" right now than it was two years ago. And that's because we had a sufficient number of dumbasses in the electorate to end up in a situation where somebody like that is the President.

My original response already addressed your long winded, reiteration of the same statement I responded to.

Thanks for playing. :coffee:

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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby houndawg » Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:28 am

SDHornet wrote:
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I asked you if you thought the increase in oil production n the United States is because of Trump. There was nothing in the post to which I responded about the extent to which fossil fuel jobs would be replaced by Green jobs. Donald Trump is not the reason for anything going on with oil production in the United States. Donald Trump is not the reason for why the economy is relatively good right now. So on and so forth. The only thing Donald Trump is the reason for is the United States being the laughing stock of the planet.

America (the United States) is substantially "less great" right now than it was two years ago. And that's because we had a sufficient number of dumbasses in the electorate to end up in a situation where somebody like that is the President.

My original response already addressed your long winded, reiteration of the same statement I responded to.

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