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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Postby Gil Dobie » Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:12 pm

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Hey Treep

I'm not completely opposed to a government provided basic income.. in fact I think it already exists for those who need it (see Sec 8 housing, welfare, WIC, etc)

But let's say we do enact UBI:

How much should it be? The same in New York as it is in Oklahoma? The same for a couple with 5 kids as a couple with 2?

And what welfare programs should we drop in favor of it? In other words, once Johnny has his UBI, what assistance can we safely stop offering him?

And I'll even come out and say it in advance... this is a total trap. Klam might advise you to tiptoe on past it


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:lol:

I can't wait for the day when I can put a self check-in and payment kiosk on #1 tee. :nod:

Of course the golf demographic is similar to Delaware football nation and not exactly what you'd describe as "early adopters."

The simple solution to New York vs. Oklahoma is to move all the UBI New Yorkers TO Oklahoma. They'll fit right in for the most part after they each get over the accent thing. Think of it as a progressive Trail of Tears.

Gentrification is a beautiful thing. Make NYC Great Again!






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Many small town golf courses already had the self check-in, it was called the honor system with an envelope and a drop box.
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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Postby kalm » Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:25 pm

Gil Dobie wrote:
kalm wrote:
:lol:

I can't wait for the day when I can put a self check-in and payment kiosk on #1 tee. :nod:

Of course the golf demographic is similar to Delaware football nation and not exactly what you'd describe as "early adopters."

The simple solution to New York vs. Oklahoma is to move all the UBI New Yorkers TO Oklahoma. They'll fit right in for the most part after they each get over the accent thing. Think of it as a progressive Trail of Tears.

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Many small town golf courses already had the self check-in, it was called the honor system with an envelope and a drop box.


There are still a number of those around here and they work ok with less play and when people still carried cash.
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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Postby Gil Dobie » Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:26 pm

kalm wrote:
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Many small town golf courses already had the self check-in, it was called the honor system with an envelope and a drop box.


There are still a number of those around here and they work ok with less play and when people still carried cash.


Guess the old drop boxes don't take apple pay. :lol:
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Postby Col Hogan » Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:11 am

Millennial Democrat mayor snared by Federal investigation...

A Mercedes, jewelry, designer shoes and trips to casinos; the young mayor of Fall River was living the high life, but federal investigators say it was done with stolen cash.

Fall River Mayor Jasiel F. Correia II was arrested Thursday at his home and charged with multiple counts of wire fraud and filing false tax returns in connection with alleged theft of money from people who invested in his business app. He is facing charges in federal court in Boston Thursday morning.


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Postby kalm » Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:13 am

Man run over by lawn mower while trying to kill son with chainsaw

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/o ... o-kill-so/
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Postby css75 » Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:33 am

kalm wrote:Man run over by lawn mower while trying to kill son with chainsaw

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/o ... o-kill-so/



The main question is : Will they be exchanging Christmas gifts this year?


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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Postby CID1990 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:02 am

Goodness sakes looks like we got ourselves a convoy

https://apnews.com/9e3521003d0b4fb6be65573c1fd35a3c


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Postby Ivytalk » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:13 am

CID1990 wrote:Goodness sakes looks like we got ourselves a convoy

https://apnews.com/9e3521003d0b4fb6be65573c1fd35a3c


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Postby kalm » Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:20 pm

Can we kiss Saudi Arabia's ass any more than we currently do?
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Postby CID1990 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:15 pm

Pfft

If we dont care about their complicity in 9/11 then why should this move the needle at all?

Its all about the feelz though...

A Dem Prez like Obama would have handled this much differently than Trump - that's for sure

But the endgame would be exactly the same - US largesse for the house of Saud

In a way, this was a rare moment of honesty from Trump - not a US citizen, and we don't tank gazillions of dollars in arms sales for one guy- in any other admin those same comments get made behind closed doors in the WH

of course then Trump went back to business as usual with the rogue killas


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Postby kalm » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:24 pm

CID1990 wrote:Pfft

If we dont care about their complicity in 9/11 then why should this move the needle at all?

Its all about the feelz though...

A Dem Prez like Obama would have handled this much differently than Trump - that's for sure

But the endgame would be exactly the same - US largesse for the house of Saud

In a way, this was a rare moment of honesty from Trump - not a US citizen, and we don't tank gazillions of dollars in arms sales for one guy- in any other admin those same comments get made behind closed doors in the WH

of course then Trump went back to business as usual with the rogue killas


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Did I say any administration should treat them with kid gloves?

When it comes to dicktaterships, Trump is looking like a bigger pussy than Obama. :nod:
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Postby Skjellyfetti » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:39 pm

Lol.

Makes me miss CluckU. Dude is probably so conflicted these days. :lol:
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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Postby CID1990 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:42 pm

kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:Pfft

If we dont care about their complicity in 9/11 then why should this move the needle at all?

Its all about the feelz though...

A Dem Prez like Obama would have handled this much differently than Trump - that's for sure

But the endgame would be exactly the same - US largesse for the house of Saud

In a way, this was a rare moment of honesty from Trump - not a US citizen, and we don't tank gazillions of dollars in arms sales for one guy- in any other admin those same comments get made behind closed doors in the WH

of course then Trump went back to business as usual with the rogue killas


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Did I say any administration should treat them with kid gloves?

When it comes to dicktaterships, Trump is looking like a bigger pussy than Obama. :nod:


I don't know where I accused you of saying that

How we should treat them vs how we actually treat them are on opposite ends of the spectrum

There is nobody out there who could ever occupy the WH who could do differently

Trump had an outside chance at it, but he has proven to be no different in the endgame - but at least he's honest about it - "we have a gazillion dollar arms sale on the line" - That may be the most true and honest statement ever made about Saudi Arabia by a US President


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Postby kalm » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:09 pm

CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
Did I say any administration should treat them with kid gloves?

When it comes to dicktaterships, Trump is looking like a bigger pussy than Obama. :nod:


I don't know where I accused you of saying that

How we should treat them vs how we actually treat them are on opposite ends of the spectrum

There is nobody out there who could ever occupy the WH who could do differently

Trump had an outside chance at it, but he has proven to be no different in the endgame - but at least he's honest about it - "we have a gazillion dollar arms sale on the line" - That may be the most true and honest statement ever made about Saudi Arabia by a US President


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No, you didn't, that's my bad.

My point was that Obama got lambasted for weakness and Trump is no different when it comes to this. Honesty as to why is appreciated but it doesn't change the fact that regardless of administration we fraternize with #1 state sponsor of muslim terrorism in the world.
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Postby CAA Flagship » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:22 pm

Someone needs to explain to me why the US needs to be the lead in this. Are other countries doing things to hurt SA? Is it just up to the US?

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Postby CID1990 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:30 pm

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I don't know where I accused you of saying that

How we should treat them vs how we actually treat them are on opposite ends of the spectrum

There is nobody out there who could ever occupy the WH who could do differently

Trump had an outside chance at it, but he has proven to be no different in the endgame - but at least he's honest about it - "we have a gazillion dollar arms sale on the line" - That may be the most true and honest statement ever made about Saudi Arabia by a US President


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No, you didn't, that's my bad.

My point was that Obama got lambasted for weakness and Trump is no different when it comes to this. Honesty as to why is appreciated but it doesn't change the fact that regardless of administration we fraternize with #1 state sponsor of muslim terrorism in the world.


Obama got lambasted over his entire body of work when it came to the Saudis and the rest of the ME because of the apologetic Islam angle

When you think about it, in terms of rhetoric, Obama was a complete outlier in terms of ME relations in comparison to every post Cold War President who preceded him - criticisms of his foreign policy in that venue are well warranted given his results were the same, and worse in some cases


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Postby Chizzang » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:45 pm

A president couldn't possibly "handle" the Middle East worse than Obama...
I throw up in my mouth every time I think about it

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Postby css75 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:54 pm

This is still early in the game, let’s see what is going on in a week or so.


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Postby Ivytalk » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:00 pm

Chizzang wrote:A president couldn't possibly "handle" the Middle East worse than Obama...
I throw up in my mouth every time I think about it

:ohno:

My least favorite thing about his administration

But he had his magical mystery tour there when he’d only been in office for five months! :lol:
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Postby kalm » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:19 pm

CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
No, you didn't, that's my bad.

My point was that Obama got lambasted for weakness and Trump is no different when it comes to this. Honesty as to why is appreciated but it doesn't change the fact that regardless of administration we fraternize with #1 state sponsor of muslim terrorism in the world.


Obama got lambasted over his entire body of work when it came to the Saudis and the rest of the ME because of the apologetic Islam angle

When you think about it, in terms of rhetoric, Obama was a complete outlier in terms of ME relations in comparison to every post Cold War President who preceded him - criticisms of his foreign policy in that venue are well warranted given his results were the same, and worse in some cases


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I don’t like being cornered into an Obama apologist on this but you do remember who first coined the phrase “religion of peace”, right? You’re aware of who hosted the mujahadeen in the Oval Office and armed them to the teeth? Not to mention supporting both sides of the Iran-Iraq war.

Not to mention all the presidents who kissed the ass of the House of Saud. Obama seems hardly extraordinary in that regard. Kind of like his record on punishing Wall Street. :coffee:
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Postby CID1990 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:58 pm

kalm wrote:
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Obama got lambasted over his entire body of work when it came to the Saudis and the rest of the ME because of the apologetic Islam angle

When you think about it, in terms of rhetoric, Obama was a complete outlier in terms of ME relations in comparison to every post Cold War President who preceded him - criticisms of his foreign policy in that venue are well warranted given his results were the same, and worse in some cases


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I don’t like being cornered into an Obama apologist on this but you do remember who first coined the phrase “religion of peace”, right? You’re aware of who hosted the mujahadeen in the Oval Office and armed them to the teeth? Not to mention supporting both sides of the Iran-Iraq war.

Not to mention all the presidents who kissed the ass of the House of Saud. Obama seems hardly extraordinary in that regard. Kind of like his record on punishing Wall Street. :coffee:


Great. I've got to rehash the differences between Obama and Bush/Clinton/Bush for you, klam

They all paid lip service to not demonizing islam but only Obama was completely lost in the woods as to the reality of the overall situation in that part of the world - he actually thought he could generate goodwill in the Muslim world with a couple of well crafted speeches. The other guys were just trying not to get branded as Islamophobes within their own electorate

Only a complete naif would have supported the Arab Spring/Muslim Brotherhood/Libyan insurgency

That isn't to deflect from Clinton's and Bush's mistakes (and one of them was YUGE) but the central themes to their foreign policies on the ME were not based completely in naivete and wishful thinking as were Obama's. And Obama literally had a direct example from his predecessor that he could have learned from but went down that road anyway.
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Trump: “Will somebody grab me a towel?”


I thought he said “rag”
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Postby kalm » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:57 am

CID1990 wrote:
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I don’t like being cornered into an Obama apologist on this but you do remember who first coined the phrase “religion of peace”, right? You’re aware of who hosted the mujahadeen in the Oval Office and armed them to the teeth? Not to mention supporting both sides of the Iran-Iraq war.

Not to mention all the presidents who kissed the ass of the House of Saud. Obama seems hardly extraordinary in that regard. Kind of like his record on punishing Wall Street. :coffee:


Great. I've got to rehash the differences between Obama and Bush/Clinton/Bush for you, klam

They all paid lip service to not demonizing islam but only Obama was completely lost in the woods as to the reality of the overall situation in that part of the world - he actually thought he could generate goodwill in the Muslim world with a couple of well crafted speeches. The other guys were just trying not to get branded as Islamophobes within their own electorate

Only a complete naif would have supported the Arab Spring/Muslim Brotherhood/Libyan insurgency

That isn't to deflect from Clinton's and Bush's mistakes (and one of them was YUGE) but the central themes to their foreign policies on the ME were not based completely in naivete and wishful thinking as were Obama's. And Obama literally had a direct example from his predecessor that he could have learned from but went down that road anyway.


Sure but at least he didn't invade Egypt, Libya, or Syria (although he did drop a **** ton of bombs on Syria).

Do you not think one of the goals of the neo-cons was to create a bulwark for the middle east in Iraq from which democracy would flow?
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