Trump is a Democrat Plant

[kalm]

Yep. He's an attention whore--nothing more.

Exactly. There isn't anything more to Trump than attention-seeking.

Versus the other candidates who are not attention whores and sincerely want to change things.

[Ibanez]

Exactly. There isn't anything more to Trump than attention-seeking.

Versus the other candidates who are not attention whores and sincerely want to change things.

I didn't say or imply that.

[kalm]

He's now doubled them up!

He's a master troll and is very good at staying in the spotlight and his offensive quotes still fall short of sinking him. I'm not saying he's in it for the long haul, but...

When Republicans and Republican-leaning voters are asked who they would support for the GOP
nomination for president, Donald Trump leads the pack at 26%, with Jeb Bush (12%) and Scott Walker
(11%) following behind. The remainder of the “top ten” includes Ted Cruz (6%), Mike Huckabee (6%),
Ben Carson (5%), Chris Christie (4%), Rand Paul (4%), Marco Rubio (4%), and John Kasich (3%).
Carly Fiorina and Rick Perry each earn 2% and Bobby Jindal, Rick Santorum, Lindsey Graham, George
Pataki, and Jim Gilmore each get 1% or less. Another 10% of GOP voters say they still are unsure who
they will support for the party’s nomination.

Compared to the Monmouth University Poll released three weeks ago, Trump’s support has
increased by 13 points. Walker’s support has increased by 4, while Bush and Cruz have decreased by 3
points. No other candidate’s support has changed by more than 2 percentage points, but the undecided
vote went down by 8 points.

Trump’s support spans nearly all demographic groups:

 Ideology – Trump leads Walker 27% to 16% among very conservative voters; has 22%
support among somewhat conservative voters to 14% for Bush and 12% for Walker; and
takes 28% of the moderate to liberal voter compared to 20% for Bush.

 Tea Party – Tea Party supporters back Trump (35%) over Walker (15%) and Cruz (11%).
Non-Tea Party supporters split their top support between Trump (20%) and Bush (16%).

 Age – Trump (26%) has a clear lead over Bush (15%) and Walker (12%) among voters
age 50 and older. Those under 50 years old also prefer Trump (26%) over Walker (10%)
and Bush (9%).

 Gender – Trump leads among both male and female Republicans, with men (32%) giving
him a large advantage over Bush (13%) and Walker (11%). Women (20%) give him a
narrower lead over Walker (12%) and Bush (11%).

http://www.monmouth.edu/assets/0/322122 ... 83da56.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[OL FU]

I listened to Trump on Morning Joe today. Listening to him, it was actually kinda hard not to like him. But after it was over, the impression I got was that he was running on the following platform

I AM TRUMP and I CAN DO IT.

[houndawg]

He's now doubled them up!

He's a master troll and is very good at staying in the spotlight and his offensive quotes still fall short of sinking him. I'm not saying he's in it for the long haul, but...

When Republicans and Republican-leaning voters are asked who they would support for the GOP
nomination for president, Donald Trump leads the pack at 26%, with Jeb Bush (12%) and Scott Walker
(11%) following behind. The remainder of the “top ten” includes Ted Cruz (6%), Mike Huckabee (6%),
Ben Carson (5%), Chris Christie (4%), Rand Paul (4%), Marco Rubio (4%), and John Kasich (3%).
Carly Fiorina and Rick Perry each earn 2% and Bobby Jindal, Rick Santorum, Lindsey Graham, George
Pataki, and Jim Gilmore each get 1% or less. Another 10% of GOP voters say they still are unsure who
they will support for the party’s nomination.

Compared to the Monmouth University Poll released three weeks ago, Trump’s support has
increased by 13 points. Walker’s support has increased by 4, while Bush and Cruz have decreased by 3
points. No other candidate’s support has changed by more than 2 percentage points, but the undecided
vote went down by 8 points.

Trump’s support spans nearly all demographic groups:

 Ideology – Trump leads Walker 27% to 16% among very conservative voters; has 22%
support among somewhat conservative voters to 14% for Bush and 12% for Walker; and
takes 28% of the moderate to liberal voter compared to 20% for Bush.

 Tea Party – Tea Party supporters back Trump (35%) over Walker (15%) and Cruz (11%).
Non-Tea Party supporters split their top support between Trump (20%) and Bush (16%).

 Age – Trump (26%) has a clear lead over Bush (15%) and Walker (12%) among voters
age 50 and older. Those under 50 years old also prefer Trump (26%) over Walker (10%)
and Bush (9%).

 Gender – Trump leads among both male and female Republicans, with men (32%) giving
him a large advantage over Bush (13%) and Walker (11%). Women (20%) give him a
narrower lead over Walker (12%) and Bush (11%).

http://www.monmouth.edu/assets/0/322122 ... 83da56.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

...must be them highly sophisticated voters JSO was statisticatin' about..

[Wedgebuster]

Not really a Democrat plant, but I'm pretty sure a Clinton plant.

[JohnStOnge]

Not really a Democrat plant, but I'm pretty sure a Clinton plant.

I thought about this thread today when I heard about that Clinton thing.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



I guess if I had to bet I'd bet "no" but it IS interesting. Bottom line is that Trump is helping Ms. Clinton. Improving her odds. No doubt about it.

[houndawg]

Not really a Democrat plant, but I'm pretty sure a Clinton plant.

I thought about this thread today when I heard about that Clinton thing.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



I guess if I had to bet I'd bet "no" but it IS interesting. Bottom line is that Trump is helping Ms. Clinton. Improving her odds. No doubt about it.

How? Regardless who the conks nominate Hillary ain't getting many conk votes, and she's going to have a much tougher fight with Bernie than you think.

Sanders vs. Trump. More difference between those two than just about any conk/donk pair in Congress.

[JohnStOnge]

How?

See the polling I referenced earlier. The thing is, the election picture in which you have about one third of the population that will normally vote Republican, about one third that will normally vote Democrat, and another third who don't know what the hell they want and wishy wash back and forth. The reality appears to be that if Trump were the Republican nominee the overwhelming majority of the wishy washys will go with Clinton. Trump would get trounced.

And if he runs third party? Lights out. It'll be even worse.

[kalm]

How?

See the polling I referenced earlier. The thing is, the election picture in which you have about one third of the population that will normally vote Republican, about one third that will normally vote Democrat, and another third who don't know what the hell they want and wishy wash back and forth. The reality appears to be that if Trump were the Republican nominee the overwhelming majority of the wishy washys will go with Clinton. Trump would get trounced.

And if he runs third party? Lights out. It'll be even worse.

Which is exactly why he won't commit to not running as a 3rd party candidate. As long as he's within striking distance he can leverage that.

[OL FU]

Take to the psych. I am starting to agree with JSO

But yeah Clinton instead of the dems

[kalm]

Why would a 69 year old billionaire feel obligated to spend a year of high stress, working exhausting hours, travelling non-stop around the country.

The only reasons that come close to making sense are his love of the limelight or the possibility that the Clinton's have got the goods on him.

It's a Spandos level stretch at best fellas.

[OL FU]

Why would a 69 year old billionaire feel obligated to spend a year of high stress, working exhausting hours, travelling non-stop around the country.

The only reasons that come close to making sense are his love of the limelight or the possibility that the Clinton's have got the goods on him.

It's a Spandos level stretch at best fellas.

Honestly. I have never been good at understanding ego maniacs

[OL FU]

But here is what I do understand. Egomaniacs understand egomaniacs and someone as good as bill Clinton could probably determine the right words to say to "encourage" someone to act in their own egomaniacal beliefs.








Respectfully,

Spandos II

[houndawg]

How?

See the polling I referenced earlier. The thing is, the election picture in which you have about one third of the population that will normally vote Republican, about one third that will normally vote Democrat, and another third who don't know what the hell they want and wishy wash back and forth. The reality appears to be that if Trump were the Republican nominee the overwhelming majority of the wishy washys will go with Clinton. Trump would get trounced.

And if he runs third party? Lights out. It'll be even worse.

I don't disagree with your logic but I think that due to the weakness of the Rs field the donks will get most of the wishy washys regardless of who the Rs pic and regardless of whether the donks nominate Bernie or Clinton. For a party that keeps telling us they're still relevant because congress and shit, they seem to be having a real hard time finding a candidate with both a clue and a name anybody can remember. And, well, I think its you that has been telling anybody that will listen that the Presidential election is little more than a popularity contest. So from here it doesn't look very good for the conks whether you're right, or whether you're right.....

[CID1990]

See the polling I referenced earlier. The thing is, the election picture in which you have about one third of the population that will normally vote Republican, about one third that will normally vote Democrat, and another third who don't know what the hell they want and wishy wash back and forth. The reality appears to be that if Trump were the Republican nominee the overwhelming majority of the wishy washys will go with Clinton. Trump would get trounced.

And if he runs third party? Lights out. It'll be even worse.

I don't disagree with your logic but I think that due to the weakness of the Rs field the donks will get most of the wishy washys regardless of who the Rs pic and regardless of whether the donks nominate Bernie or Clinton. For a party that keeps telling us they're still relevant because congress and ****, they seem to be having a real hard time finding a candidate with both a clue and a name anybody can remember. And, well, I think its you that has been telling anybody that will listen that the Presidential election is little more than a popularity contest. So from here it doesn't look very good for the conks whether you're right, or whether you're right.....

i see that being soundly refuted with facts in other threads has no effect on you

see your previous broken record comments on the GOP being irrelevant

i blame autism. have you ever been checked?

[houndawg]

I don't disagree with your logic but I think that due to the weakness of the Rs field the donks will get most of the wishy washys regardless of who the Rs pic and regardless of whether the donks nominate Bernie or Clinton. For a party that keeps telling us they're still relevant because congress and ****, they seem to be having a real hard time finding a candidate with both a clue and a name anybody can remember. And, well, I think its you that has been telling anybody that will listen that the Presidential election is little more than a popularity contest. So from here it doesn't look very good for the conks whether you're right, or whether you're right.....

i see that being soundly refuted with facts in other threads has no effect on you

see your previous broken record comments on the GOP being irrelevant

i blame autism. have you ever been checked?

I see that as usual you'd rather blow smoke than face the hard truth.

[CID1990]

i see that being soundly refuted with facts in other threads has no effect on you

see your previous broken record comments on the GOP being irrelevant

i blame autism. have you ever been checked?

I see that as usual you'd rather blow smoke than face the hard truth.

lol

"you have no substance"

says houndawg

[dbackjon]

Sarah Palin is a democratic plant/actress

[OL FU]

Sarah Palin is a democratic plant/actress

See it works

Romney too

[houndawg]

Well, I can see where this theory gets legs - Nineteen republican candidates and 18 appear to be hand-picked by the Democrats.

Nineteen nattering nitwits.

[SeattleGriz]

At first I was stumped. Why would Donald Trump be running for President when he knows he's got no shot at winning the office. He's got too high negative rating. Around 60 percent say they would never vote for him (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the- ... g-for-him/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;).

Then I had an epiphany. The situation is clear. Polls suggest that some Republican candidates would have a shot against Clinton. Trump would get trounced. Also, Trump could screw the Republicans up by running as an independent. So here we are with the Republicans with a real shot but if Trump gets the Republican nomination OR if he runs as an independent they have not shot.

This article has the polling telling part of the story: http://news.yahoo.com/trump-leads-repub ... 58501.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The polling data suggest that Clinton would absolutely crush Trump. But that's not all. Sanders and Biden would also beat him.

Meanwhile, the cited polls show Bush and Walker in a dead heat with Clinton head to head without Trump in the race. But if Trump gets into the race as an independent Clinton crushes THOSE candidates too. That part of the story is told by the article at http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/20 ... a_spo.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

The only impact Trump can have is ensuring either by getting the nomination or by running as an Independent that the Republicans have no shot and he's got to know that. Clearly he wants the Democrats to win.

He doesn't want the job, he wants the attention. Same as every other time he's run.

No shit. What people seem to be missing is that Trump says what is on his mind instead of political bullshit. It's the same reason we all laugh off Joe Biden, because he admits his shit in a way we all understand.

[kalm]

He doesn't want the job, he wants the attention. Same as every other time he's run.

No shit. What people seem to be missing is that Trump says what is on his mind instead of political bullshit. It's the same reason we all laugh off Joe Biden, because he admits his shit in a way we all understand.

[JohnStOnge]

I have come to believe Trump is mentally ill. And I'm not kidding. He's got some kind of thing.

Like today I was watching MSNBC and someone wanted to ask him about Bernie Sanders. The person was trying to ask whether or not the Sanders phenomenon and the Trump phenomenon were related in that they tap into kind of an anti status quo thing. But they started off by saying that Bernie Sanders was drawing even bigger crowds than Trump was. And that set him off. He was offended that someone would say Sanders draws bigger crowds than he does. Never mind that it's probably the truth. He is set off by anyone saying someone is "outdoing" him at something.

The guy is whacked. He really is. He's got issues. And the fact that a plurality of Republican primary voters are drawn to him does not speak well of those Republican primary voters.

[houndawg]

I have come to believe Trump is mentally ill. And I'm not kidding. He's got some kind of thing.

Like today I was watching MSNBC and someone wanted to ask him about Bernie Sanders. The person was trying to ask whether or not the Sanders phenomenon and the Trump phenomenon were related in that they tap into kind of an anti status quo thing. But they started off by saying that Bernie Sanders was drawing even bigger crowds than Trump was. And that set him off. He was offended that someone would say Sanders draws bigger crowds than he does. Never mind that it's probably the truth. He is set off by anyone saying someone is "outdoing" him at something.

The guy is whacked. He really is. He's got issues. And the fact that a plurality of Republican primary voters are drawn to him does not speak well of those Republican primary voters.

You're only forty years behind the rest of the country in figuring out Trump is a wack job. Must not have been reading Doonesbury in the 70s.

If you kick a dog often enough he'll bite you, John, even one as cowed as the republican base voter. A hundred years later and they're beginning to get the first glimmer of what kind of suckers they have been played for.