JohnStOnge wrote:I might have missed something but by my quick check App State is 0-7 against the mainstream of FBS since changing subdivisions. It is not a factor in FBS. It's one more wannabe program.
When I say "mainstream" I mean what we now call the "Power 5" conferences plus Notre Dame. That's really what FBS is about. The "Group of 5" conference teams and other independents are the periphery. The world of the wannabes.
JohnStOnge wrote:I might have missed something but by my quick check App State is 0-7 against the mainstream of FBS since changing subdivisions. It is not a factor in FBS. It's one more wannabe program.
When I say "mainstream" I mean what we now call the "Power 5" conferences plus Notre Dame. That's really what FBS is about. The "Group of 5" conference teams and other independents are the periphery. The world of the wannabes.
So what does that make FCS?
Jeez, John, you are Captain Buzzkill.
An interesting mash up of small state flagship universities, land grant schools, small private institutions and of course directional schools, spanning from Orono to Portland, OR that have an exciting and kick ass playoff system deciding a true champion and where small towns get lit up in December with athletics pride.
On a side note, the bowl season already started? Missed that...
JohnStOnge wrote:I might have missed something but by my quick check App State is 0-7 against the mainstream of FBS since changing subdivisions. It is not a factor in FBS. It's one more wannabe program.
When I say "mainstream" I mean what we now call the "Power 5" conferences plus Notre Dame. That's really what FBS is about. The "Group of 5" conference teams and other independents are the periphery. The world of the wannabes.
Three of those (Wake, Tennessee, and Penn State) were winnable with TN and PS being ranked as top 10 at the time.
An interesting mash up of small state flagship universities, land grant schools, small private institutions and of course directional schools, spanning from Orono to Portland, OR that have an exciting and kick ass playoff system deciding a true champion and where small towns get lit up in December with athletics pride.
On a side note, the bowl season already started? Missed that...
Most of the college football world didn't miss it. So many more people watched Tyler Bass kick the 40 yard game winning field goal in the Camellia Bowl or watched Appy skull drag MTSU in the New Orleans Bowl than will watch the FCS National Chipper.
kalm wrote:
An interesting mash up of small state flagship universities, land grant schools, small private institutions and of course directional schools, spanning from Orono to Portland, OR that have an exciting and kick ass playoff system deciding a true champion and where small towns get lit up in December with athletics pride.
On a side note, the bowl season already started? Missed that...
Most of the college football world didn't miss it. So many more people watched Tyler Bass kick the 40 yard game winning field goal in the Camellia Bowl or watched Appy skull drag MTSU in the New Orleans Bowl than will watch the FCS National Chipper.
Why does it have to be an either/or? I'm happy that GSU and Appy are doing well and more people are watching them. No skin off my back and I'm perfectly fine being in the minority and watching the FCS playoffs. I'll catch a bowl game here or there as well.
John's hatred of GSU and Appy for moving up is almost as irrational as his hatred of the Trumpster Fire.
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JohnStOnge wrote:I might have missed something but by my quick check App State is 0-7 against the mainstream of FBS since changing subdivisions. It is not a factor in FBS. It's one more wannabe program.
When I say "mainstream" I mean what we now call the "Power 5" conferences plus Notre Dame. That's really what FBS is about. The "Group of 5" conference teams and other independents are the periphery. The world of the wannabes.
JohnStOnge wrote:I might have missed something but by my quick check App State is 0-7 against the mainstream of FBS since changing subdivisions. It is not a factor in FBS. It's one more wannabe program.
When I say "mainstream" I mean what we now call the "Power 5" conferences plus Notre Dame. That's really what FBS is about. The "Group of 5" conference teams and other independents are the periphery. The world of the wannabes.
JSO, are you going to be consistent and criticize the NEC, Patriot League, PFL, MEAC, and Big South (minus Kennesaw)?
Heck you don't even need to stop there. When was the last time a team from a conference outside the MVFC/Gateway, CAA/A10, SoCon, or Big Sky won a national championship? You'd have to go back to 1987.
At least the G5 conferences don't put a scholarship ceiling below the maximum allowable by the subdivision.
JohnStOnge wrote:I might have missed something but by my quick check App State is 0-7 against the mainstream of FBS since changing subdivisions. It is not a factor in FBS. It's one more wannabe program.
When I say "mainstream" I mean what we now call the "Power 5" conferences plus Notre Dame. That's really what FBS is about. The "Group of 5" conference teams and other independents are the periphery. The world of the wannabes.
You are correct sir, we are a wannabe program. We wannabe winning, and we do.