2020 Democratic Nomination Process Mega-thread

Post by **Col Hogan** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:32 pm

Might as well start a thread since things are starting to heat up...

I was reading this article and thought, hey not...

The Bernie forces are out to destroy Beto...

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2018 ... ratic.html

∞∞∞ · Post by **∞∞∞** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:51 pm

No more old people please. No Biden. No Warren. No Clinton. No Sanders.

Need more candidates like Beto and Kamala and Booker.

Post by **93henfan** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:52 pm

I've already said it: Booker/Beto would be a win.

Articulate/bright/clean/nice-looking negro: check
Youth: check
Not obvious socialists: check
Actual political experience: check
Look like Obama and RFK: check

Post by **UNI88** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:02 pm

∞∞∞ wrote:No more old people please. No Biden. No Warren. No Clinton. No Sanders.

Need more candidates like Beto and Kamala and Booker.

Beto (Beddoe)

Kamala

Post by **kalm** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:14 pm

∞∞∞ wrote:No more old people please. No Biden. No Warren. No Clinton. No Sanders.

Need more candidates like Beto and Kamala and Booker.

So continue to go with opportunistic corporatist unprincipled finger to the wind types?

Ugh......

Post by **UNI88** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:23 pm

93henfan wrote:I've already said it: Booker/Beto would be a win.

Articulate/bright/clean/nice-looking negro: check
Youth: check
Not obvious socialists: check
Actual political experience: check
Look like Obama and RFK: check

My biggest concern with Booker, Kamala or Beto is how much experience do they really have running something? There is a huge difference between running a Congressional staff and running the US government. A governor is significantly more qualified to be President than a Senator or Representative. Booker's experience as a mayor gives him an edge. What exactly is Beto's "businessman" background?

Post by **AZGrizFan** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:59 pm

93henfan wrote:I've already said it: Booker/Beto would be a win.

Articulate/bright/clean/nice-looking negro: check
Youth: check
Not obvious socialists: check
Actual political experience: check
Look like Obama and RFK: check

I mean, the guy is freaking SPARTACUS, man!!!

Pwns · Post by **Pwns** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:35 pm

O'Rourke is an even more of an empty suit than Obama. He can make me root for Ted Crúz in an election.

CID1990 · Post by **CID1990** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:21 am

93henfan wrote:I've already said it: Booker/Beto would be a win.

Articulate/bright/clean/nice-looking negro: check
Youth: check
Not obvious socialists: check
Actual political experience: check
Look like Obama and RFK: check

Both are capable of some Oscar-level acting, too

Booker already has name recognition from his remake of Spartacus

Kamala Harris at the top of the ticket is a for sure loss

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Post by **Ivytalk** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:24 am

Booker is damaged goods now. Caramel Harris has the best shot for the “diversity” pick. Probably Veep.

Post by **Ivytalk** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:26 am

UNI88 wrote:
93henfan wrote:I've already said it: Booker/Beto would be a win.

Articulate/bright/clean/nice-looking negro: check
Youth: check
Not obvious socialists: check
Actual political experience: check
Look like Obama and RFK: check
My biggest concern with Booker, Kamala or Beto is how much experience do they really have running something? There is a huge difference between running a Congressional staff and running the US government. A governor is significantly more qualified to be President than a Senator or Representative. Booker's experience as a mayor gives him an edge. What exactly is Beto's "businessman" background?

Well, he has a rich FIL. Other than that, zilch.

You worry me, 88. You used to be a voice of reason on here. Now it sounds like you’d consider voting for one of those nimrods.

Post by **UNI88** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:13 am

Ivytalk wrote:
UNI88 wrote:
My biggest concern with Booker, Kamala or Beto is how much experience do they really have running something? There is a huge difference between running a Congressional staff and running the US government. A governor is significantly more qualified to be President than a Senator or Representative. Booker's experience as a mayor gives him an edge. What exactly is Beto's "businessman" background?
Well, he has a rich FIL. Other than that, zilch.

You worry me, 88. You used to be a voice of reason on here. Now it sounds like you’d consider voting for one of those nimrods.

Don't worry IT, I'm voting libertarian. There is a good chance a donkey wins though so I hope it's someone who is capable.

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CID1990 · Post by **CID1990** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:38 am

UNI88 wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: Well, he has a rich FIL. Other than that, zilch.

You worry me, 88. You used to be a voice of reason on here. Now it sounds like you’d consider voting for one of those nimrods.
Don't worry IT, I'm voting libertarian. There is a good chance a donkey wins though so I hope it's someone who is capable.

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I always have to wait and see if Im going to vote Libertarian because sometimes theyll nominate some dude who wears a colander and casts spells

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Post by **kalm** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:44 am

CID1990 wrote:
UNI88 wrote:Don't worry IT, I'm voting libertarian. There is a good chance a donkey wins though so I hope it's someone who is capable.

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I always have to wait and see if Im going to vote Libertarian because sometimes theyll nominate some dude who wears a colander and casts spells

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But a spell casting president would be badass!

Post by **SeattleGriz** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:15 am

Ivytalk wrote:Booker is damaged goods now. Caramel Harris has the best shot for the “diversity” pick. Probably Veep.

Harris at Veep would be good. Fair or not to women, but she's an asshole and couldn't win Prez because of her assholeishness.

Post by **UNI88** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:17 am

kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
I always have to wait and see if Im going to vote Libertarian because sometimes theyll nominate some dude who wears a colander and casts spells

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But a spell casting president would be badass!

Spellcaster candidates are in the Druid Party, they were scheduled to meet in the Boiler Room but complained that all of the steel was interfering with their spells so their meeting has been moved to under the awning outside the backdoor.

Post by **kalm** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:18 pm

UNI88 wrote:
kalm wrote:

But a spell casting president would be badass!
Spellcaster candidates are in the Druid Party, they were scheduled to meet in the Boiler Room but complained that all of the steel was interfering with their spells so their meeting has been moved to under the awning outside the backdoor.

Oh. Well thanks. I may actually vote Druid Party in 2020. Closer to god than the Republican party and such........

Post by **AZGrizFan** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:32 pm

Ivytalk wrote:Booker is damaged goods now. Caramel Harris has the best shot for the “diversity” pick. Probably Veep.

He’s only damaged goods to CONKS. Donks have ZERO problem with him or what he’s done. ZERO. He’s looked on as the next Obama to them...

CID1990 · Post by **CID1990** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:38 am

kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
I always have to wait and see if Im going to vote Libertarian because sometimes theyll nominate some dude who wears a colander and casts spells

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But a spell casting president would be badass!

Come to think of it

The country would be a much better place if everybody took the same wait-an-see stance when it comes to the monied parties, as well

Post by **Col Hogan** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:50 am

More on the Bernie-Beto kerfuffle...

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5c27 ... 91035a/amp

JohnStOnge · Post by **JohnStOnge** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:22 am

Let's just hope it works out. As I look at this I think of where we were at this point of George H.W. Bush's Presidency in late December 1990. He was at about 75% approval at this point and he rose to 89% approval in February 1991. At that point of that term Bill Clinton was just an Arkansas Governor who had given a horrible, exruciatingly boring speech at the previous Democratic National Convention. NOBODY would've pegged him as the next President.

The Democrats are in much better position now than they were then. It's similar in that they have no clear champion at this point. But then, at this point, they were dealing with a Republican incumbent who had won the popular vote by 7.8 percentage points, got 79% of the Electoral College vote, and was sailing along with an approval ratings in the mid 70s. The current Republican incumbent lost the popular vote, has an approval rating in the low 40s, and won by an Electoral College margin that ranks 46th among the 58 historical races (57% of the Electoral votes).

But a lot depends on things that are totally beyond anybody's control. Random chance. Unanticipated things happening.

CID1990 · Post by **CID1990** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:20 am

JohnStOnge wrote:Let's just hope it works out. As I look at this I think of where we were at this point of George H.W. Bush's Presidency in late December 1990. He was at about 75% approval at this point and he rose to 89% approval in February 1991. At that point of that term Bill Clinton was just an Arkansas Governor who had given a horrible, exruciatingly boring speech at the previous Democratic National Convention. NOBODY would've pegged him as the next President.

The Democrats are in much better position now than they were then. It's similar in that they have no clear champion at this point. But then, at this point, they were dealing with a Republican incumbent who had won the popular vote by 7.8 percentage points, got 79% of the Electoral College vote, and was sailing along with an approval ratings in the mid 70s. The current Republican incumbent lost the popular vote, has an approval rating in the low 40s, and won by an Electoral College margin that ranks 46th among the 58 historical races (57% of the Electoral votes).

But a lot depends on things that are totally beyond anybody's control. Random chance. Unanticipated things happening.

One thing Clinton himself has attributed his surge prior to the general election was when Perot dropped out, while giving Clinton a nod

houndawg · Post by **houndawg** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 12:56 pm

CID1990 wrote:
93henfan wrote:I've already said it: Booker/Beto would be a win.

Articulate/bright/clean/nice-looking negro: check
Youth: check
Not obvious socialists: check
Actual political experience: check
Look like Obama and RFK: check
Both are capable of some Oscar-level acting, too

Booker already has name recognition from his remake of Spartacus

Kamala Harris at the top of the ticket is a for sure loss

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I thought the way she chewed up Kavanaugh and spit him out was some stuff. I bet he's still livid about getting bitch-slapped with such panache by a female on national TV.

houndawg · Post by **houndawg** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 12:59 pm

SeattleGriz wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:Booker is damaged goods now. Caramel Harris has the best shot for the “diversity” pick. Probably Veep.
Harris at Veep would be good. Fair or not to women, but she's an asshole and couldn't win Prez because of her assholeishness.

translation: "..she's much smarter than me and I hate females like that. Which is most of them."

houndawg · Post by **houndawg** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 1:04 pm

kalm wrote:
UNI88 wrote:
Spellcaster candidates are in the Druid Party, they were scheduled to meet in the Boiler Room but complained that all of the steel was interfering with their spells so their meeting has been moved to under the awning outside the backdoor.
Oh. Well thanks. I may actually vote Druid Party in 2020. Closer to god than the Republican party and such........

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