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Final Polls

Postby Gil Dobie » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:47 am

Final FCS Coaches Poll
FCS Coaches Poll – Final (Jan. 8, 2018)
Team (First-Place Votes) W-L Pts Prev
1 North Dakota State (24) 14-1 646 4
2 James Madison (1) 14-1 623 1
3 Sam Houston State 12-2 559 5
4 South Dakota State 11-3 557 6
5 Weber State 11-3 503 8
6 North Carolina A&T (1) 12-0 476 7
7 Wofford 10-3 445 9
8 Central Arkansas 10-2 431 3
9 Kennesaw State 12-2 427 16
10 Jacksonville State 10-2 423 2
11 Stony Brook 10-3 375 11
12 Western Illinois 8-4 356 10
13 Southern Utah 9-3 329 13
14 Grambling State 11-2 294 12
15 New Hampshire 9-5 279 20
16 South Dakota 8-5 239 18
17 Samford 8-4 222 14
18 McNeese 9-2 213 15
19 Northern Iowa 8-5 182 21
20 Furman 8-5 173 25
21 Elon 8-4 162 17
22 Eastern Washington 7-4 122 19
23 Nicholls 8-4 110 22
24 Yale 9-1 102 24
25 San Diego 10-3 72 RV

Others receiving votes: Monmouth (61), Austin Peay (30), Northern Arizona (23), Delaware (6), Central Connecticut State (4), Southeastern Louisiana (2), Lehigh (2), Sacramento State (1), Western Carolina (1).
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Re: Final Coaches Poll

Postby 89Hen » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:07 am

JMU getting a #1 vote is dumb. NCAT getting a #1 vote is criminal and should be punishable by jail time.
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Re: Final Coaches Poll

Postby Rob Iola » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:34 am

I think McNeese is ranked a bit too high - their record was against really weak competition...
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Re: Final Polls

Postby Gil Dobie » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:37 am

AGS Poll Results - FINAL POLL- 2017 SEASON
Rank Team: Total Points First Place Votes
1 North Dakota State Bison 1775 71
2 James Madison Dukes 1680
3 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 1589
4 Weber State Wildcats 1541
5 Sam Houston State Bearkats 1486
6 Kennesaw State Owls 1322
7 Wofford Terriers 1301
8 Jacksonville State Gamecocks 1105
9 Central Arkansas Bears 1054
10 Southern Utah Thunderbirds 993
11 Stony Brook Seawolves 993
12 Northern Iowa Panthers 960
13 New Hampshire Wildcats 923
14 South Dakota Coyotes 920
15 Western Illinois Leathernecks 892
16 North Carolina A&T Aggies 751
17 Furman Paladins 727
18 Elon Phoenix 564
19 Samford Bulldogs 518
20 San Diego Toreros 372
21 Eastern Washington Eagles 282
22 Nicholls State Colonels 274
23 McNeese State Cowboys 231
24 Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens 165
25 Grambling State Tigers 132
ORV:
26 Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 120
27 Yale Bulldogs 92
28 Monmouth Hawks 85
29 Austin Peay Governors 42
30 Montana Grizzlies 41
31 Illinois State Redbirds 40
32 Central Connecticut State Blue Devils 29
33 Sacramento State Hornets 21
34 Lehigh Mountain Hawks 16
35 Richmond Spiders 13
36 Western Carolina Catamounts 13
37 Colgate Raiders 8
38 Youngstown State Penguins 5
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Re: Final Polls

Postby Gil Dobie » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:39 am

Stats Final poll

1 North Dakota State (14-1) 3950 (158) 4
2 James Madison (14-1) 3788 1
3 South Dakota State (11-3) 3512 6
4 Sam Houston State (12-2) 3508 5
5 Weber State (11-3) 3045 11
6 Wofford (10-3) 2964 8
7 North Carolina A&T (12-0) 2830 7
8 Kennesaw State (12-2) 2748 18
9 Jacksonville State (10-2) 2700 2
10 Central Arkansas (10-2) 2560 3
11 Stony Brook (10-3) 2155 10
12 New Hampshire (9-5) 2141 21
13 Western Illinois (8-4) 1857 9
14 Southern Utah (9-3) 1831 12
15 South Dakota (8-5) 1765 16
16 Grambling State (11-2) 1451 13
17 UNI (8-5) 1365 20
18 Samford (8-4) 1302 14
19 Furman (8-5) 1297 22
20 Elon (8-4) 1117 15
21 Eastern Washington (7-4) 693 17
22 McNeese (9-2) 675 19
23 San Diego (10-3) 552 NR
24 Yale (9-1) 299 24
25 Nicholls (8-4) 293 NR
Others: Illinois State (220) , Austin Peay (215) , Northern Arizona (163) , Monmouth (132) , Delaware (53) , Central Connecticut State (37) , Columbia (27) , Sacramento State (26) , Richmond (22) , Montana (16) ,Youngstown State (14) , Alcorn State (8) , Western Carolina (6) , Southeastern Louisiana (6) , Lehigh (3) , Bethune-Cookman (2) , Dartmouth (1) , North Carolina Central (1)
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Re: Final Polls

Postby 89Hen » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:49 pm

Gil Dobie wrote:25 Nicholls (8-4) 293 NR

So Nicholls losing in the first round gets them IN the Top 25. Gotcha.
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Re: Final Coaches Poll

Postby dal4018 » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:03 pm

89Hen wrote:JMU getting a #1 vote is dumb. NCAT getting a #1 vote is criminal and should be punishable by jail time.

They enjoy being criminals in Greensboro lol.

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Re: Final Coaches Poll

Postby SuperHornet » Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:20 pm

89Hen wrote:JMU getting a #1 vote is dumb. NCAT getting a #1 vote is criminal and should be punishable by jail time.


Why? They ARE the only undefeated team in the entire FCS....
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Re: Final Coaches Poll

Postby dal4018 » Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:22 pm

SuperHornet wrote:
89Hen wrote:JMU getting a #1 vote is dumb. NCAT getting a #1 vote is criminal and should be punishable by jail time.


Why? They ARE the only undefeated team in the entire FCS....
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Re: Final Polls

Postby Wildcat Ryan » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:00 am

I still believe Weber deserved the #3 spot but finishing #5 is huge for the program regardless as it is the highest ranking ever in Weber State history.
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Re: Final Coaches Poll

Postby 89Hen » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:29 am

SuperHornet wrote:
89Hen wrote:JMU getting a #1 vote is dumb. NCAT getting a #1 vote is criminal and should be punishable by jail time.


Why? They ARE the only undefeated team in the entire FCS....

They played nobody. At least 20-30 teams in I-AA would have gone undefeated with that schedule.
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Re: Final Polls

Postby Gil Dobie » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:31 am

Wildcat Ryan wrote:I still believe Weber deserved the #3 spot but finishing #5 is huge for the program regardless as it is the highest ranking ever in Weber State history.


AGS had Weber at #4, I voted them #3 in AGS.
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Re: Final Polls

Postby kalm » Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:13 am

Gil Dobie wrote:
Wildcat Ryan wrote:I still believe Weber deserved the #3 spot but finishing #5 is huge for the program regardless as it is the highest ranking ever in Weber State history.


AGS had Weber at #4, I voted them #3 in AGS.


Yep. Their resume was was similar to SDSU's but beating WIU, a seed in SUU, playing JMU tight and SDSU's semi final tipped it for the cats.
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Re: Final Coaches Poll

Postby JohnStOnge » Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:44 pm

Rob Iola wrote:I think McNeese is ranked a bit too high - their record was against really weak competition...


You know, one thing about FCS is that if you don't get an at large bid you always have yourself to blame because if you want to get in you can win your conference. McNeese had a chance to do that and managed to lose big to Central Arkansas in spite of clearly being able to move the ball better.

But, still, how can the committee let Monmouth in and say McNeese isn't in because they didn't have any quality wins? And by the way Monmouth lost by two touchdowns to a 4-7 team while both of McNeese's losses were to playoff teams. To me there's no way McNeese should've been left out; especially given that SRS thing the NCAA uses. The only plausible explanation is that they just didn't want to give the Southland four bids.
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Re: Final Coaches Poll

Postby dal4018 » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:37 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:
Rob Iola wrote:I think McNeese is ranked a bit too high - their record was against really weak competition...


You know, one thing about FCS is that if you don't get an at large bid you always have yourself to blame because if you want to get in you can win your conference. McNeese had a chance to do that and managed to lose big to Central Arkansas in spite of clearly being able to move the ball better.

But, still, how can the committee let Monmouth in and say McNeese isn't in because they didn't have any quality wins? And by the way Monmouth lost by two touchdowns to a 4-7 team while both of McNeese's losses were to playoff teams. To me there's no way McNeese should've been left out; especially given that SRS thing the NCAA uses. The only plausible explanation is that they just didn't want to give the Southland four bids.

Bias against the Southland conference????

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Re: Final Coaches Poll

Postby JohnStOnge » Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:55 pm

dal4018 wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
You know, one thing about FCS is that if you don't get an at large bid you always have yourself to blame because if you want to get in you can win your conference. McNeese had a chance to do that and managed to lose big to Central Arkansas in spite of clearly being able to move the ball better.

But, still, how can the committee let Monmouth in and say McNeese isn't in because they didn't have any quality wins? And by the way Monmouth lost by two touchdowns to a 4-7 team while both of McNeese's losses were to playoff teams. To me there's no way McNeese should've been left out; especially given that SRS thing the NCAA uses. The only plausible explanation is that they just didn't want to give the Southland four bids.

Bias against the Southland conference????


I didn't think about it exactly like that but I think the answer is "yes." On the other hand one might say that at this time in history the Southland should be a one spot league with only the automatic bid going. I don't know if any team from the Southland would've made the playoffs this year if they'd been in the Missouri Valley. And the Southland auto bid was beaten at home by a team that I don't think should've gotten an at large spot and that lost it's starting quarterback before halftime.
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Re: Final Coaches Poll

Postby dal4018 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:15 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:
dal4018 wrote:Bias against the Southland conference????


I didn't think about it exactly like that but I think the answer is "yes." On the other hand one might say that at this time in history the Southland should be a one spot league with only the automatic bid going. I don't know if any team from the Southland would've made the playoffs this year if they'd been in the Missouri Valley. And the Southland auto bid was beaten at home by a team that I don't think should've gotten an at large spot and that lost it's starting quarterback before halftime.

Yes other leagues have had success against the Southland conference but for some strange reason I think Stephen F.Austin will eventually become the power of this conference and then challenge for a FCS crown down the road.


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