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Fling Golf

Postby 89Hen » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:17 pm

Anyone ever seen this? kalm??

It's going to take me a while to process this. My old curmudgeon, kneejerk reaction is to tell these people to get off my lawn. Looks like it could be fun, but it also seems stupid as there is no such thing as a bad lie which is half the challenge of golf.

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Re: Fling Golf

Postby 93henfan » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:06 pm

Just when you thought golf couldn't get more ambiguously gay.

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Re: Fling Golf

Postby kalm » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:01 am

89Hen wrote:Anyone ever seen this? kalm??

It's going to take me a while to process this. My old curmudgeon, kneejerk reaction is to tell these people to get off my lawn. Looks like it could be fun, but it also seems stupid as there is no such thing as a bad lie which is half the challenge of golf.

https://flinggolf.com/

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Haven't seen it.

We tried footgolf for a couple of years, which was a blast, but it never took off like it has at some other courses. Speed golf is another one. Some places are trying larger cups (Nicklaus did with his members at Muirfield Village). There's a push for modified rules leagues - improved lies, no penalty for lost ball or OB, etc.
There's even snow golf. Facilities are desperate for ways to attract new people to the course.

I read somewhere that 208 courses closed nationwide in 2017 with only a handful of new ones opening. That trend has been going on now for almost a decade. Like many industries we were overbuilt. That combined with baby boomers and millenials not embracing the game and other activities competing for recreation dollars (paddle boarding, mountain biking, kayaking, gaming, etc) has left the industry in bad shape.

Even private clubs have suffered. Retention and lapsed players are marketing buzzwords now in the industry. How do you keep players as members? How do you re-attract those who've quit the game?

The trend looks like it will continue for awhile and I think we'll retract to a point where there will be far less privately owned daily fee facilities with an even greater majority of those remaining being munis (governments are good at finding operations money) and private clubs and resorts that are well financed.

Here was Trump's semi-prescient take from 2015 :lol: :

And again, that’s why I hate to see it cheapened with soccer golf or kick-golf, whatever it is they call it. [Note: He’s referring to either FootGolf, where people play soccer on a golf course, or to Hack Golf, an open experiment to make golf younger that resulted in trying 15-inch holes.] A lot of businesspeople play a lot more golf than they want you to think they play. I know many businesspeople who say to me, “Don’t tell people I’m a good golfer.” They don’t want that image, necessarily. But again, so much business is transacted on golf courses. And it should be aspirational as opposed to widespread.

So you’re not a fan of the new innovations and ideas to change the game, open it up a little.

I don’t think it’s going to help anything. Golf should be something beautiful, elegant, something people aspire to play eventually.

Is that elitist?

It may be elitist, and perhaps that’s what golf needs. Let golf be elitist. When I say “aspire,” that’s a positive word. Let people work hard and aspire to some day be able to play golf. To afford to play it. They’re trying to teach golf to people who will never be able to really play it. They’re trying too hard. Because of the expense of playing, and the land needed, golf is never going to be basketball, where all you need is a court.


All these great athletes, you know what they do when they retire? They do nothing but play golf. Basketball players, hockey players, football players, all they want to do is golf.

Let it be aspirational instead of bringing it down by trying to get players to do it when they’re 15 years old and they’re also learning other sports. I think it’s very damaging to the game.


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Re: Fling Golf

Postby AZGrizFan » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:08 am

kalm wrote:Here was Trump's semi-prescient take from 2015 :lol: :

And again, that’s why I hate to see it cheapened with soccer golf or kick-golf, whatever it is they call it. [Note: He’s referring to either FootGolf, where people play soccer on a golf course, or to Hack Golf, an open experiment to make golf younger that resulted in trying 15-inch holes.] A lot of businesspeople play a lot more golf than they want you to think they play. I know many businesspeople who say to me, “Don’t tell people I’m a good golfer.” They don’t want that image, necessarily. But again, so much business is transacted on golf courses. And it should be aspirational as opposed to widespread.

So you’re not a fan of the new innovations and ideas to change the game, open it up a little.

I don’t think it’s going to help anything. Golf should be something beautiful, elegant, something people aspire to play eventually.

Is that elitist?

It may be elitist, and perhaps that’s what golf needs. Let golf be elitist. When I say “aspire,” that’s a positive word. Let people work hard and aspire to some day be able to play golf. To afford to play it. They’re trying to teach golf to people who will never be able to really play it. They’re trying too hard. Because of the expense of playing, and the land needed, golf is never going to be basketball, where all you need is a court.


All these great athletes, you know what they do when they retire? They do nothing but play golf. Basketball players, hockey players, football players, all they want to do is golf.

Let it be aspirational instead of bringing it down by trying to get players to do it when they’re 15 years old and they’re also learning other sports. I think it’s very damaging to the game.


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Re: Fling Golf

Postby kalm » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:20 am

AZGrizFan wrote:
kalm wrote:Here was Trump's semi-prescient take from 2015 :lol: :



http://fortune.com/2015/07/01/donald-tr ... ich-elite/


Weird. Just 3 years ago he used to talk in complete sentences. :lol: :lol:


Yes...:lol:

I don’t agree with his take, but he made some compelling points in that interview.
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Re: Fling Golf

Postby Ivytalk » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:30 am

Some one-percenters in the Greater Philadelphia area are playing something called croquet golf. Players use croquet mallets to knock croquet balls into holes. You can lay out a nine-hole course on the lawn between your house and your tennis court or pool. Grab a G&T and get in on the fun! :nod: :thumb:
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Re: Fling Golf

Postby GannonFan » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:49 am

Ivytalk wrote:Some one-percenters in the Greater Philadelphia area are playing something called croquet golf. Players use croquet mallets to knock croquet balls into holes. You can lay out a nine-hole course on the lawn between your house and your tennis court or pool. Grab a G&T and get in on the fun! :nod: :thumb:


We used to do that as kids with our parents croquet sets. It wasn't until we were older that we actually realized there was a whole different way to play croquet. Who knew, we were visionaries!
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Re: Fling Golf

Postby CAA Flagship » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:16 am

Can you shape a shot left or right? So sand traps and hazards are not penal? Do you get a trophy with the purchase of a fling stick?

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Re: Fling Golf

Postby 89Hen » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:40 am

CAA Flagship wrote:Can you shape a shot left or right? So sand traps and hazards are not penal?

Based on a video I watched from one of our county courses, yes, the ball does actually spin and subsequently curve. Sand traps would not be an issue since you're picking the ball up to play. Hazards however I assume would be played the same way they are now IF you lose the ball in it. I don't know how they handle a creek where you can find the ball and stand in the hazard and play it out, even if you couldn't otherwise hit a golf shot out of it.

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Re: Fling Golf

Postby CAA Flagship » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:49 am

89Hen wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote:Can you shape a shot left or right? So sand traps and hazards are not penal?

Based on a video I watched from one of our county courses, yes, the ball does actually spin and subsequently curve. Sand traps would not be an issue since you're picking the ball up to play. Hazards however I assume would be played the same way they are now IF you lose the ball in it. I don't know how they handle a creek where you can find the ball and stand in the hazard and play it out, even if you couldn't otherwise hit a golf shot out of it.

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It's the shot shaping and sand traps that are the things I love about real golf.
How would you "throw" the ball to simulate a high draw that will stop on the green from 150? Would that be low from the left side (7:30 from behind the shot) and in an upward motion? My head hurts.

In the absence of real golf, this might be entertaining, but I don't see it as a better alternative.

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Re: Fling Golf

Postby 89Hen » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:52 am

CAA Flagship wrote:In the absence of real golf, this might be entertaining, but I don't see it as a better alternative.

I don't think they claim it to be "better", just different. My personal experience is that junior golf has never been bigger, but that may just be where I am. My siblings live in Pinehurst and the junior tournaments there are absolutely ENORMOUS. I don't know if smaller kids are playing, but it doesn't carry over to the 20-something crowd.
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Re: Fling Golf

Postby CID1990 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:38 am

AZGrizFan wrote:
kalm wrote:Here was Trump's semi-prescient take from 2015 :lol: :



http://fortune.com/2015/07/01/donald-tr ... ich-elite/


Weird. Just 3 years ago he used to talk in complete sentences. :lol: :lol:


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