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Re: 2018 NASCAR/INDYCAR/F1

Postby 89Hen » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:05 am

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89Hen wrote: :suspicious: It's a road course dummy. There is no way there is 35' of elevation change on an oval track and its infield.

35 ft over 2.28 miles is nothing dummy, even if wasn't the banking.

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Re: 2018 NASCAR/INDYCAR/F1

Postby 93henfan » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:05 am

One of the best uses of elevation on a track is at America’s own GP in Austin at CotA:

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Re: 2018 NASCAR/INDYCAR/F1

Postby polsongrizz » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:08 am

Ibanez wrote:http://www.espn.com/jayski/cup/2018/story/_/id/24048527/charlotte-motor-speedway-introduces-bank-america-roval-400

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Charlotte Motor Speedway expanded on its groundbreaking new era of innovation on Monday, with the unveiling of a new, dynamic logo for the Sept. 28-30 Bank of America ROVAL™ 400 race weekend - which will feature the first playoff road course races in NASCAR history.

The first-ever 400-kilometer Bank of America ROVAL™ 400 will be the longest road-course race in NASCAR.

35" in elevation change... :rofl: :rofl: :ohno: Don't get me wrong here, nascar needs more road races, but bragging about 35' ? :lol:
BTW I have always though that it would be great to see them at Eldora also. I love that track.
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Re: 2018 NASCAR/INDYCAR/F1

Postby polsongrizz » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:12 am

93henfan wrote:One of the best uses of elevation on a track is at America’s own GP in Austin at CotA:

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They should also race at Laguna Seca. Speaking of elevation change, it is something like 180'. And lets not forget the Corkscrew.
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Re: 2018 NASCAR/INDYCAR/F1

Postby BDKJMU » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:09 pm

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Ibanez wrote:http://www.espn.com/jayski/cup/2018/story/_/id/24048527/charlotte-motor-speedway-introduces-bank-america-roval-400

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35" in elevation change... :rofl: :rofl: :ohno: Don't get me wrong here, nascar needs more road races, but bragging about 35' ? :lol:
BTW I have always though that it would be great to see them at Eldora also. I love that track.

I agree. At least the trucks race at El Dora- will be on Wednesday night FS1.
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Re: 2018 NASCAR/INDYCAR/F1

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Re: 2018 NASCAR/INDYCAR/F1

Postby BDKJMU » Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:43 am

Last year Truex dominated Kentucky, sweeping the stages & winning the race, leading 152 of 267 laps. After winning the pole on Fri, last night he put on an even more dominating performance, again sweeping the stages & the race, leading 174 of 267 laps, getting his 4th win of the season.

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Re: 2018 NASCAR/INDYCAR/F1

Postby BDKJMU » Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:53 am

93henfan wrote:Chevy has a problem.

Only one Chevy in the Top Ten in the standings: Larson, 9th.

No Chevy's in the Top Ten in qualifying at Michigan yesterday.

And a month later they still have a problem.
Kentucky Qualifying on Fri: Top 12 in qualifying was only 1 Chevy, Ryan Newman in 10th. Top 12 in race only only 1 Chevy, Kyle Larson in 9th.

Kentucky Results.
1. Martin Truex Toyota
2.Ryan Blaney Ford
3. Brad Keselowski Ford
4. Kyle Busch Toyota
5. Kevin Harvick Ford
6. Kurt Busch Ford
7. Erik Jones Toyota
8. Aric Almirola Ford
9. Kyle Larson Chevy
10. Joey Logano Ford
11. Paul Menard Ford
12. Clint Bowyer Ford

Regular season points Larson still only the top one in the top 11 (8th). Playoff standings only 2 in the top 13, Austin Dillon in 7th and Larson in 10th..
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Re: 2018 NASCAR/INDYCAR/F1

Postby polsongrizz » Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:13 pm

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polsongrizz wrote:35" in elevation change... :rofl: :rofl: :ohno: Don't get me wrong here, nascar needs more road races, but bragging about 35' ? :lol:
BTW I have always though that it would be great to see them at Eldora also. I love that track.

I agree. At least the trucks race at El Dora- will be on Wednesday night FS1.
http://www.espn.com/jayski/trucks/races ... -race-info

Thanks, I forgot about that. I stopped watching watching nascar but I love dirt track racing.
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Re: 2018 NASCAR/INDYCAR/F1

Postby 93henfan » Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:52 am

Looking forward to the biennial German GP at the Hockenheimring. Hopeful Mercedes can win one for the home crowd. Ferrari is getting a bit uppity lately.

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Re: 2018 NASCAR/INDYCAR/F1

Postby 93henfan » Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:51 pm

Not too shabby:

Reigning Formula One world champion Lewis Hamilton has signed a two-year contract extension at Mercedes and will remain with the team until the end of 2020. The deal is reported to be worth $52 million per year...

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Re: 2018 NASCAR/INDYCAR/F1

Postby 93henfan » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:02 pm

German GP was a heartbreaker for (now former) point leader Sebastian Vettel.

Lewis Hamilton had a mechanical failure at the end of Q1 on Saturday and started 14th. Anybody after the top 10 can start on whatever tires they want. They started him on the longer lasting but less grippy Softs, while the guys at the front had to use the Ultra Softs (faster, more grip, shorter life) they qualified on.

The strategy worked. Hamilton went 2/3 of the race before switching to Ultras just before rain came. The leaders had switched to Softs 1/3 into the race. When the rain came, they had to either stay out on old, hard tires or lose track position pitting for intermediate rain tires.

Hamilton’s Ultras were just grippy enough to get around the track and gain 1-2 seconds every lap on the leaders.

Then Vettel made a mistake, locking up going into a turn and eating a tire wall head on.

New point leader in Hamilton and Constructor in Mercedes. Woot.

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Re: 2018 NASCAR/INDYCAR/F1

Postby polsongrizz » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:25 pm

93henfan wrote:
New point leader in Hamilton and Constructor in Mercedes. Woot.

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Re: 2018 NASCAR/INDYCAR/F1

Postby BDKJMU » Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:27 pm

Kevin Harvick used a bump-and-run on Kyle Busch with seven laps left to pull off the win at the 2 hr rain delayed Cup race at Loudon on Sun.

1. Kevin Harvick (led 12 laps)
2. Kyle Busch (led 36 laps)
3. Aric Almirola (led 42 laps)
4. Martin Truex (led 83 laps, won 1st stage)
5. Chase Elliott (led 23 laps, won 2nd stage)
6. Ryan Newman
7. Ryan Blaney
8. Kurt Busch (led 94 laps)
9. Joey Logano
10. Jimmie Johnson
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Re: 2018 NASCAR/INDYCAR/F1

Postby polsongrizz » Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:13 am

Hamilton tearing it up today in Hungary...
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Re: 2018 NASCAR/INDYCAR/F1

Postby 93henfan » Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:35 am

polsongrizz wrote:Hamilton tearing it up today in Hungary...


As long as the soft tires hang on, this one's in the bank.

Last two races (assuming a win today) are a real boost going into the summer break. It really looked like Ferrari might check out a couple of weeks ago.

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Postby AZGrizFan » Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:46 am

Why is it always the same 3-4 guys at the top? Doesn’t that get boring? Why do the other 25 even bother?
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Re: 2018 NASCAR/INDYCAR/F1

Postby 93henfan » Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:59 am

AZGrizFan wrote:Why is it always the same 3-4 guys at the top? Doesn’t that get boring? Why do the other 25 even bother?


It's a different approach than NASCAR. NASCAR has become a participation medal approach where they put restrictor plates on at superspeedways, laser measure every car to fit an equalizing template (they are far from stock cars in that regard), and change rules as they go if they see that any child is left behind. Even with that, one guy has won seven of the last twelve championships.

NASCAR would prefer to bunch everyone up, induce wrecks, and thereby try to make a series of left turns more exciting. If one guy gets too far out front, they look for a hot dog wrapper blowing across the track and throw a debris caution. They also added "stages" and a "chase" to give additional catch-up opportunities for the lesser drivers. It's just contrived and Mickey Mouse anymore. Unwatchable.

F1 has a far less restrictive set of rules and encourages the highest spending, most technically innovative engineered team to kick everyone's ass. It's kind of like capitalism. Survival of the fittest.

And yes, right now in F1, there are three teams that realistically win the race MB-AMG (Hamilton/Bottas), Scuderia Ferrari (Vettel/Raikkonen), and Red Bull (Ricciardo/Verstappen). There are historic powerhouse like McClaren and Martini-Williams who are simply down at the moment and will likely be back.

And no, it doesn't get boring at all. I quit watching NASCAR and now get my fix from F1. I find it far, far more exciting and engaging to watch. Races over in 1.5 hours, no commercials, way more exciting qualifying.

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Re: 2018 NASCAR/INDYCAR/F1

Postby polsongrizz » Sun Jul 29, 2018 8:36 am

93henfan wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Why is it always the same 3-4 guys at the top? Doesn’t that get boring? Why do the other 25 even bother?


It's a different approach than NASCAR. NASCAR has become a participation medal approach where they put restrictor plates on at superspeedways, laser measure every car to fit an equalizing template (they are far from stock cars in that regard), and change rules as they go if they see that any child is left behind. Even with that, one guy has won seven of the last twelve championships.

NASCAR would prefer to bunch everyone up, induce wrecks, and thereby try to make a series of left turns more exciting. If one guy gets too far out front, they look for a hot dog wrapper blowing across the track and throw a debris caution. They also added "stages" and a "chase" to give additional catch-up opportunities for the lesser drivers. It's just contrived and Mickey Mouse anymore. Unwatchable.

And no, it doesn't get boring at all. I quit watching NASCAR and now get my fix from F1. I find it far, far more exciting and engaging to watch. Races over in 1.5 hours, no commercials, way more exciting qualifying.

This^^^^^^^^^, I would add in for at least me dirt track racing.

How about those last five laps?
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Postby AZGrizFan » Sun Jul 29, 2018 8:44 am

Thanks....that helps.
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Re: 2018 NASCAR/INDYCAR/F1

Postby 93henfan » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:42 am

AZGrizFan wrote:Thanks....that helps.


And I'm not saying F1 doesn't get boring from time to time. Today's track (Hungary) and Monaco, for example, are tight tracks with fewer opportunities for overtaking.

polsongrizz wrote:How about those last five laps?


Bottas is getting sick of being hit by Ferraris. Unfortunately with no front wing end plate left and less downforce on the front tires, he clobbered Ricciardo, which luckily didn't affect finishing positions. The best part was they had Christian Horner, team principal for Red Bull, on for live commentary when his guy Ricciardo was hit and he said "****" live on air. :lol:

The postrace was the first time I've ever seen any anger from Bottas. That was weird.

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Re: 2018 NASCAR/INDYCAR/F1

Postby polsongrizz » Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:56 pm

93henfan wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Thanks....that helps.


And I'm not saying F1 doesn't get boring from time to time. Today's track (Hungary) and Monaco, for example, are tight tracks with fewer opportunities for overtaking.

polsongrizz wrote:How about those last five laps?


Bottas is getting sick of being hit by Ferraris. Unfortunately with no front wing end plate left and less downforce on the front tires, he clobbered Ricciardo, which luckily didn't affect finishing positions. The best part was they had Christian Horner, team principal for Red Bull, on for live commentary when his guy Ricciardo was hit and he said "****" live on air. :lol:

The postrace was the first time I've ever seen any anger from Bottas. That was weird.
Agreed, it was awesome... :lol:
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Re: 2018 NASCAR/INDYCAR/F1

Postby 93henfan » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:24 am

No surprise to me: NASCAR CEO Brian France arrested for drug possession and DUI.

Driving a Toyota (Lexus) of course.

http://www.espn.com/racing/nascar/story/_/id/24301166/nascar-chairman-brian-france-arrested-dui-possession-controlled-substance

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Re: 2018 NASCAR/INDYCAR/F1

Postby BDKJMU » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:35 pm

93henfan wrote:No surprise to me: NASCAR CEO Brian France arrested for drug possession and DUI.

Driving a Toyota (Lexus) of course.

http://www.espn.com/racing/nascar/story/_/id/24301166/nascar-chairman-brian-france-arrested-dui-possession-controlled-substance

"NASCAR chairman and CEO Brian France has taken an indefinite leave of absence, NASCAR announced Monday, after he was reportedly arrested Sunday night and charged with aggravated driving while intoxicated and criminal possession of a controlled substance.

NASCAR vice chairman and executive vice president Jim France -- Brian's uncle -- will serve as interim chairman and CEO....."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/reports-nasc ... --spt.html
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Re: 2018 NASCAR/INDYCAR/F1

Postby BDKJMU » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:04 pm

In other news, Kyle Busch wins last weekend at Loudon.

In more positive news, on Sunday Chase Elliott finally got his 1st career cup win at sold out Watkins Glen (one of the few (only?) tracks to still sell out besides Daytona for the 500. Held off Truex for 17 laps. Truex ran out of gas 1-2 turns before the checkered flag. Elliott ran out of gas on the victory lap, and had to be given a shove by Jimmie Johnson to get to victory lane. Symbolic passing of the torch perhaps? Maybe the most popular NASCAR victory since Junior (who one of the broadcasters for NBC calling the race) last won at PHX in 2015.
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Chase Elliott had 8 2nd place finishes before his 1st career win, at a road course, at Watkins Glen on Sunday, driving the #9. Talk about deja vu..
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