DJH wrote:fuck off.
And they can't go get it because they have $23,000,000/year for the next 5 years tied up in a punch-and-judy-hitting-oft-injured-catcher/1B.Gil Dobie wrote:Not a Twins fan, but they really had to sign the hometown kid or the fans would have gone nuts.
They have the worst record more due to pitching, as their top pitching draft picks have both had recent Tommy John surgery. Morneau and Span having concussion issues also does not help. Having a new stadium that sucks for warning-track power hitters doesn't help either.
In short------they need help
Fucking potty mouth.DJH wrote:fuck off.
Disagree. This same argument was thrown around then Gonzo was in his last contract season with the Padres. He was a local kid (HS in SD) and there was a legitimate connection with fans because of that. However, no way in hell can a small market club let half of its payroll go to one player. This Mauer issue is a perfect example of why small market teams shouldn't do this.Gil Dobie wrote:Not a Twins fan, but they really had to sign the hometown kid or the fans would have gone nuts.
They have the worst record more due to pitching, as their top pitching draft picks have both had recent Tommy John surgery. Morneau and Span having concussion issues also does not help. Having a new stadium that sucks for warning-track power hitters doesn't help either.
In short------they need help
SDHornet wrote:Disagree. This same argument was thrown around then Gonzo was in his last contract season with the Padres. He was a local kid (HS in SD) and there was a legitimate connection with fans because of that. However, no way in hell can a small market club let half of its payroll go to one player. This Mauer issue is a perfect example of why small market teams shouldn't do this.Gil Dobie wrote:Not a Twins fan, but they really had to sign the hometown kid or the fans would have gone nuts.
They have the worst record more due to pitching, as their top pitching draft picks have both had recent Tommy John surgery. Morneau and Span having concussion issues also does not help. Having a new stadium that sucks for warning-track power hitters doesn't help either.
In short------they need help
He took a San Diego discount on his contract amounts. If he was all about the money, his career would have finished elsewhere.SuperHornet wrote:Then why was TG19 a sacred cow?
Yup. It sucks for fans but it doesn't benefit the team if one player takes up payrole space for other decent players who would otherwise contribute to a well rounded team....of course in the Padres case, that money that could have went to Gonzo went to a AAA replacement team.AZGrizFan wrote:SDHornet wrote: Disagree. This same argument was thrown around then Gonzo was in his last contract season with the Padres. He was a local kid (HS in SD) and there was a legitimate connection with fans because of that. However, no way in hell can a small market club let half of its payroll go to one player. This Mauer issue is a perfect example of why small market teams shouldn't do this.
Win the battle. Lose the war.
I figured as much. But given how nice SD is just as a place to live, one would think that ANYONE would do the same. It's too bad that more players don't....SDHornet wrote:He took a San Diego discount on his contract amounts. If he was all about the money, his career would have finished elsewhere.SuperHornet wrote:Then why was TG19 a sacred cow?
It comes at a price. we have this thing called the "Sunshine Tax" that is pretty steep.SuperHornet wrote:I figured as much. But given how nice SD is just as a place to live, one would think that ANYONE would do the same. It's too bad that more players don't....SDHornet wrote: He took a San Diego discount on his contract amounts. If he was all about the money, his career would have finished elsewhere.
Seriously, I'm happy he's injury free. Don't hide the Ben Gay, however....he just missed 5 games with a "bruised thigh".DJH wrote:Joe Mauer, injury free, hitting .322 (4th in AL) with 35 RBI and 38 walks.
Rather have a good Catcher as firstbasemen are a dime a dozen. If Mauer switches permanently to first base, then he isn't worth the money. There are a lot of kids out there with Joe Mauer's #7 jersey, being a hometown boy helps fill the seats.AZGrizFan wrote:Seriously, I'm happy he's injury free. Don't hide the Ben Gay, however....he just missed 5 games with a "bruised thigh".DJH wrote:Joe Mauer, injury free, hitting .322 (4th in AL) with 35 RBI and 38 walks.
Joe Mauer: 236 AB, 3 HR, 34 RBI, 34 R, .322 BA, .417 OBP, .853 OPS, $23,000,000 salary
Lyle Overbay (actual): 75 AB, 2 HR, 10 RBI, 11 R, .347 BA, .425 OBP, .972 OPS, $1,000,000 salary
Lyle Overbay (projected): 225 AB, 6 HR, 30 RBI, 33 R, .347 BA, .425 OBP, .972 OPS
I guess the question is: Would you rather have ONE Joe Mauer or 23 Lyle Overbays?
There's lots of "doubt" about it. Mauer is the 3rd highest paid PLAYER in baseball...yet there's 21 other CATCHERS that have more HR's. 7 CATCHERS that have more RBI. He might have gotten the biggest hometown-hero salary bump EVER.DJH wrote:Mauer's numbers continue to rise, as he is pretty much back to old form as being one of the best players in baseball, ain't no doubt about it.
AZGrizFan wrote:There's lots of "doubt" about it. Mauer is the 3rd highest paid PLAYER in baseball...yet there's 21 other CATCHERS that have more HR's. 7 CATCHERS that have more RBI. He might have gotten the biggest hometown-hero salary bump EVER.DJH wrote:Mauer's numbers continue to rise, as he is pretty much back to old form as being one of the best players in baseball, ain't no doubt about it.
Willingham is the 2nd best player on the team.dbackjon wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
There's lots of "doubt" about it. Mauer is the 3rd highest paid PLAYER in baseball...yet there's 21 other CATCHERS that have more HR's. 7 CATCHERS that have more RBI. He might have gotten the biggest hometown-hero salary bump EVER.
28% of team payroll
Like I said. Having the "hometown hero" on the team is nice...but not at the expense of absolute SUCKAGE the entire time you're saddled with that albatross of a contract.Gil Dobie wrote:Willingham is the 2nd best player on the team.dbackjon wrote:
28% of team payroll
Answer me this: is there any other slap-hitting catcher in MLB making $23 million a year?clenz wrote:Z...we all know you base your view of how good a player is only on HR's.....
