Will Healy (Austin Peay) Wins Robinson Award

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Will Healy (Austin Peay) Wins Robinson Award

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Re: Will Healy (Austin Peay) Wins Robinson Award

Postby Gil Dobie » Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:38 pm

Great season for AP, too bad they were not selected to the playoffs.
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Re: Will Healy (Austin Peay) Wins Robinson Award

Postby dal4018 » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:35 pm

Gil Dobie wrote:Great season for AP, too bad they were not selected to the playoffs.

Want to see what they do next yr when they can no longer sneak up on the opposition.

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Re: Will Healy (Austin Peay) Wins Robinson Award

Postby BDKJMU » Tue Dec 26, 2017 5:06 pm

Well deserved. The turn around he has led at AP has been absolutely phenominal. Only 32, was already a finalist for the USA job..
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Re: Will Healy (Austin Peay) Wins Robinson Award

Postby JohnStOnge » Tue Dec 26, 2017 6:52 pm

I guess it's all relative but the best team Austin Peay beat, 6-5 Tennessee Martin, is currently rated 39th among FCS teams in the Sagarin ratings and playing at home they only beat them by 7-0.
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Re: Will Healy (Austin Peay) Wins Robinson Award

Postby Gil Dobie » Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:54 am

JohnStOnge wrote:I guess it's all relative but the best team Austin Peay beat, 6-5 Tennessee Martin, is currently rated 39th among FCS teams in the Sagarin ratings and playing at home they only beat them by 7-0.


In the past they were losing against these same bad teams. Give credit where credit's due.
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Re: Will Healy (Austin Peay) Wins Robinson Award

Postby JohnStOnge » Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:08 pm

Gil Dobie wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:I guess it's all relative but the best team Austin Peay beat, 6-5 Tennessee Martin, is currently rated 39th among FCS teams in the Sagarin ratings and playing at home they only beat them by 7-0.


In the past they were losing against these same bad teams. Give credit where credit's due.


I think he deserves credit for improving a historically bad program but I think Nicholls State's Tim Rebowe has been a little more impressive. There may have been others that arguably had more impressive accomplishments but that's the one I can think of due to familiarity.

Austin Peay actually has a bigger athletic budget than Nicholls State does. According to the numbers at http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/ Austin Peay spent $14 million on athletics in 2016 while Nicholls State spent $8 million. Nicholls State went 0-12 the year before Rebowe took over in 2015. In 2016 his squad seriously threatened to beat Georgia. This year his team was tied with Texas A&M at the end of the third quarter and ended up making the playoffs. He's accomplished more than the guy at Austin Peay has at a school that spends about 60% as much on athletics as Austin Peay does.

If the award was going to go to someone who improved a program that's historically had difficulty winning I think Rebowe would have been a better choice.
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Re: Will Healy (Austin Peay) Wins Robinson Award

Postby kalm » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:13 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:
In the past they were losing against these same bad teams. Give credit where credit's due.


I think he deserves credit for improving a historically bad program but I think Nicholls State's Tim Rebowe has been a little more impressive. There may have been others that arguably had more impressive accomplishments but that's the one I can think of due to familiarity.

Austin Peay actually has a bigger athletic budget than Nicholls State does. According to the numbers at http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/ Austin Peay spent $14 million on athletics in 2016 while Nicholls State spent $8 million. Nicholls State went 0-12 the year before Rebowe took over in 2015. In 2016 his squad seriously threatened to beat Georgia. This year his team was tied with Texas A&M at the end of the third quarter and ended up making the playoffs. He's accomplished more than the guy at Austin Peay has at a school that spends about 60% as much on athletics as Austin Peay does.

If the award was going to go to someone who improved a program that's historically had difficulty winning I think Rebowe would have been a better choice.


EWU now so spends around $14 million but has been at or near the bottom of Big Sky athletics budgets and has been able to make deep playoff runs. Just saying.
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Re: Will Healy (Austin Peay) Wins Robinson Award

Postby Gil Dobie » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:44 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:
In the past they were losing against these same bad teams. Give credit where credit's due.


I think he deserves credit for improving a historically bad program but I think Nicholls State's Tim Rebowe has been a little more impressive. There may have been others that arguably had more impressive accomplishments but that's the one I can think of due to familiarity.

Austin Peay actually has a bigger athletic budget than Nicholls State does. According to the numbers at http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/ Austin Peay spent $14 million on athletics in 2016 while Nicholls State spent $8 million. Nicholls State went 0-12 the year before Rebowe took over in 2015. In 2016 his squad seriously threatened to beat Georgia. This year his team was tied with Texas A&M at the end of the third quarter and ended up making the playoffs. He's accomplished more than the guy at Austin Peay has at a school that spends about 60% as much on athletics as Austin Peay does.

If the award was going to go to someone who improved a program that's historically had difficulty winning I think Rebowe would have been a better choice.


So how much did Nichols St improve from last year, compared to AP going from 0 wins to 7 wins.
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Re: Will Healy (Austin Peay) Wins Robinson Award

Postby SuperHornet » Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:14 pm

How in the heck did Jody Sears not get this?!?
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Re: Will Healy (Austin Peay) Wins Robinson Award

Postby Mvemjsunpx » Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:58 pm

SuperHornet wrote:How in the heck did Jody Sears not get this?!?


Because he didn't win 8 games with a team that only had 1 win the previous 3 years combined.

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Re: Will Healy (Austin Peay) Wins Robinson Award

Postby JohnStOnge » Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:27 pm

Gil Dobie wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
I think he deserves credit for improving a historically bad program but I think Nicholls State's Tim Rebowe has been a little more impressive. There may have been others that arguably had more impressive accomplishments but that's the one I can think of due to familiarity.

Austin Peay actually has a bigger athletic budget than Nicholls State does. According to the numbers at http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/ Austin Peay spent $14 million on athletics in 2016 while Nicholls State spent $8 million. Nicholls State went 0-12 the year before Rebowe took over in 2015. In 2016 his squad seriously threatened to beat Georgia. This year his team was tied with Texas A&M at the end of the third quarter and ended up making the playoffs. He's accomplished more than the guy at Austin Peay has at a school that spends about 60% as much on athletics as Austin Peay does.

If the award was going to go to someone who improved a program that's historically had difficulty winning I think Rebowe would have been a better choice.


So how much did Nichols St improve from last year, compared to AP going from 0 wins to 7 wins.


Nicholls State won 5 games in 2016. But the program made the playoffs this year for the first time since 2005. Now, I realize that Austin Peay has never made the playoffs. But they didn't make the playoffs this year either. I also think that Nicholls State's effort against Texas A&M was more impressive than anything Austin Peay did this year by a long shot.
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Re: Will Healy (Austin Peay) Wins Robinson Award

Postby Gil Dobie » Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:39 am

JohnStOnge wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:
So how much did Nichols St improve from last year, compared to AP going from 0 wins to 7 wins.


Nicholls State won 5 games in 2016. But the program made the playoffs this year for the first time since 2005. Now, I realize that Austin Peay has never made the playoffs. But they didn't make the playoffs this year either. I also think that Nicholls State's effort against Texas A&M was more impressive than anything Austin Peay did this year by a long shot.


Austin Peay was 0-11 in 2016, 1-45 going into to this season, 29 straight losses. They were 8-1 against FCS opponents this year. McNeese is the only win that stands out for Nichols, otherwise, both won games against bottom teams. Austin Peay, however improved 8 games from 2016.

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Morehead St 251
Murray St 225
UT Martin 176
Tenn St 193
SE Missouri 210
Tenn Tech 230
E Kentucky 204
E Illinois 190

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McNeese 139
PV A&M 195
Lamar 240
NW State 201
Abilene C 218
Incarnate 244
Houston B 241
SF Austin 208
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