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2R - UNI @ (5) SoDak State

Postby Mvemjsunpx » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:28 am

Back on October 14th., Northern Iowa browbeat South Dakota State on the road by 20 points. Since that point, the Jackrabbits have won 5 in row with 3 of those coming over playoff teams. The Panthers have also been playing better late in the season, but the surge hasn't been as dramatic and I don't think they've got enough firepower to dodge SDSU's revenge bid in Brookings.

Here's my assessment of the matchups & my pick for the game:



        Quarterbacks -- South Dakota St.

        Running Backs - South Dakota St.

        Receivers/TEs - South Dakota St.

        Offensive Line - South Dakota St.


        Defensive Line - Northern Iowa

        Linebackers --- Northern Iowa

        Secondary ---- Northern Iowa


        Kicking ------ (push)

        Punting ------ Northern Iowa

        Return Teams - South Dakota St.

        Kickoffs ------ Northern Iowa





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Re: 2R - UNI @ (5) SoDak State

Postby SuperHornet » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:29 pm

UNI by 14....
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Re: 2R - UNI @ (5) SoDak State

Postby BDKJMU » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:59 pm

So I take it SDSU has ther better offense, UNI the better defense. Predicting SDSU here.

Only know a little about SDSU. Know on offense they are very good, with a # of studs with likely NFL futures. Just looked at NFLDraft Scout and the TE Goedert is rated as the #2 TE, projected 2nd-3rd round. The WR Wienke is projected as a 3rd-4th Rd. I see for some reason weren't as good the 1st half of the season, with losing @ YSU and to UNI 38-18. How in the heck did SDSU lose to UNI by 20 at home, then beat NDSU by 12 at home?

See SDSU has won 5 straight since losing to UNI. UNI has won 4 straight.
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Re: 2R - UNI @ (5) SoDak State

Postby Gil Dobie » Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:45 pm

Marcus Weymiller came on the scene in the SDSU game and rushed for 170 yards and 2 TD's. Finished the season with 720 yards in the last 7 games, with 8 TD's. If the Jacks can stop him, that will go a long way to winning this one. SDSU had only 63 yards rushing in that game.
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Re: 2R - UNI @ (5) SoDak State

Postby Mvemjsunpx » Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:01 pm

Gil Dobie wrote:Marcus Weymiller came on the scene in the SDSU game and rushed for 170 yards and 2 TD's. Finished the season with 720 yards in the last 7 games, with 8 TD's. If the Jacks can stop him, that will go a long way to winning this one. SDSU had only 63 yards rushing in that game.


Weymiller needed 42 carries to put up those SDSU numbers, though. Even with Weymiller, the Panthers ranked last in the MVFC in league play with 2.9 yards-per-carry. SDSU's run defense is sub-par, but UNI is still going to need more than just Weymiller running well to win this.

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Postby clenz » Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:38 pm

Mvemjsunpx wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:Marcus Weymiller came on the scene in the SDSU game and rushed for 170 yards and 2 TD's. Finished the season with 720 yards in the last 7 games, with 8 TD's. If the Jacks can stop him, that will go a long way to winning this one. SDSU had only 63 yards rushing in that game.


Weymiller needed 42 carries to put up those SDSU numbers, though. Even with Weymiller, the Panthers ranked last in the MVFC in league play with 2.9 yards-per-carry. SDSU's run defense is sub-par, but UNI is still going to need more than just Weymiller running well to win this.

Yeah. Eli Dunn’s sucks. He hasn’t thrown for 2500 yards in 10 games with 25 TDS or anything.

The UNI run game isn’t about averaging 5 yards per carry. It’s about forcing the defense to respect that it can run. The UNI backs have a good number of 10+ yard runs because the defense gets lazy on those “2.9 ypc”

It’s also about clock control. UNI picks up 6 yards in 2 runs. It’s 3rd and 4. That’s pretty manageable. And opens a ton of options up

That’s where watching games actually comes in handy. You can’t see those things from stats.


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Re: 2R - UNI @ (5) SoDak State

Postby Mvemjsunpx » Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:10 pm

clenz wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
Weymiller needed 42 carries to put up those SDSU numbers, though. Even with Weymiller, the Panthers ranked last in the MVFC in league play with 2.9 yards-per-carry. SDSU's run defense is sub-par, but UNI is still going to need more than just Weymiller running well to win this.

Yeah. Eli Dunn’s sucks. He hasn’t thrown for 2500 yards in 10 games with 25 TDS or anything.

The UNI run game isn’t about averaging 5 yards per carry. It’s about forcing the defense to respect that it can run. The UNI backs have a good number of 10+ yard runs because the defense gets lazy on those “2.9 ypc”

It’s also about clock control. UNI picks up 6 yards in 2 runs. It’s 3rd and 4. That’s pretty manageable. And opens a ton of options up

That’s where watching games actually comes in handy. You can’t see those things from stats.


Uh, where did I say Eli Dunne sucks? :?

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Re: 2R - UNI @ (5) SoDak State

Postby Gil Dobie » Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:23 am

Mvemjsunpx wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:Marcus Weymiller came on the scene in the SDSU game and rushed for 170 yards and 2 TD's. Finished the season with 720 yards in the last 7 games, with 8 TD's. If the Jacks can stop him, that will go a long way to winning this one. SDSU had only 63 yards rushing in that game.


Weymiller needed 42 carries to put up those SDSU numbers, though. Even with Weymiller, the Panthers ranked last in the MVFC in league play with 2.9 yards-per-carry. SDSU's run defense is sub-par, but UNI is still going to need more than just Weymiller running well to win this.


Guess what I was saying was, UNI turned the season around with Weymiller. If UNI can control the clock with Weymiller, things could get interesting in Brookings.
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Re: 2R - UNI @ (5) SoDak State

Postby Mvemjsunpx » Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:28 am

Gil Dobie wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
Weymiller needed 42 carries to put up those SDSU numbers, though. Even with Weymiller, the Panthers ranked last in the MVFC in league play with 2.9 yards-per-carry. SDSU's run defense is sub-par, but UNI is still going to need more than just Weymiller running well to win this.


Guess what I was saying was, UNI turned the season around with Weymiller. If UNI can control the clock with Weymiller, things could get interesting in Brookings.


Oh, I know. The play of Weymiller has been important to their second-half turnaround. I just don't think he's something the Jackrabbits really have to be scared of—his longest run of the season is just 28 yards. UNI's running game is better now than it was early, but it still hasn't really been anything more than a "keeping them honest" counter. The Panther passing game and dissecting UNI's defense should be higher priorities, IMO.

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Re: 2R - UNI @ (5) SoDak State

Postby clenz » Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:39 am

Worth noting that Marcus led the MVFC in rushing at 112 yards per game during conference play.

Again, it's not the 10+ yard runs that UNI depends on.

It's clear you haven't watched a single UNI game.

FWIW, Adrian Peterson would have 24 carries in a game for the Vikings. 22 of them would go for 3 yards or less. It was the 1 big one he broke every game at got him yards.

With Marcus, most of his carries go for 4 yards or less. It's that he breaks 7-10 yard runs a couple times per game. Those aren't MASSIVE yards, but you sleep on the UNI run game and he picks up 10 to keep a drive going and all of a sudden your defense is back on the field for another 3 minutes. Jake, Dallas and Taryon aren't on the field putting up points.

Marcus isn't a burner. He doesn't make moves to make defenders miss. He's a straight down hill leg mover. He'd have a ton of big runs (20-25+) if he'd make a move or be a step or two faster. That's not who he is as a back. That's not what this offense needs.

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Re: 2R - UNI @ (5) SoDak State

Postby UNI88 » Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:45 am

clenz wrote:Worth noting that Marcus led the MVFC in rushing at 112 yards per game during conference play.

Again, it's not the 10+ yard runs that UNI depends on.

It's clear you haven't watched a single UNI game.

FWIW, Adrian Peterson would have 24 carries in a game for the Vikings. 22 of them would go for 3 yards or less. It was the 1 big one he broke every game at got him yards.

With Marcus, most of his carries go for 4 yards or less. It's that he breaks 7-10 yard runs a couple times per game. Those aren't MASSIVE yards, but you sleep on the UNI run game and he picks up 10 to keep a drive going and all of a sudden your defense is back on the field for another 3 minutes. Jake, Dallas and Taryon aren't on the field putting up points.

Marcus isn't a burner. He doesn't make moves to make defenders miss. He's a straight down hill leg mover. He'd have a ton of big runs (20-25+) if he'd make a move or be a step or two faster. That's not who he is as a back. That's not what this offense needs.

:thumb: UNI's defense got a whole lot better when Marcus came back and the offense's TOP went up.

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Re: 2R - UNI @ (5) SoDak State

Postby Mvemjsunpx » Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:07 pm

Jackrabbits up 34-14 with 4:17 to go.

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Re: 2R - UNI @ (5) SoDak State

Postby Mvemjsunpx » Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:25 pm

SDSU wins 37-22.

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Re: 2R - UNI @ (5) SoDak State

Postby BDKJMU » Sat Dec 02, 2017 5:09 pm

Gonna be SDSU @ JMU in the semis..
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Re: 2R - UNI @ (5) SoDak State

Postby BDKJMU » Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:06 am

??? for you MVFC folks. The 1st game UNI won @ SDSU by 20. Last night again @ SDSU, SDSU won by 15. Why was there that 35 point swing? Was UNI missing a bunch of injured players that were available for the 1st game? Or did SDSU have guys injured in the 1st game that were back for last night?
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Re: 2R - UNI @ (5) SoDak State

Postby Gil Dobie » Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:32 pm

Weather may have been off that first game. Have to confirm with UNI or Jack fans.
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Re: 2R - UNI @ (5) SoDak State

Postby Mvemjsunpx » Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:12 pm

BDKJMU wrote:??? for you MVFC folks. The 1st game UNI won @ SDSU by 20. Last night again @ SDSU, SDSU won by 15. Why was there that 35 point swing? Was UNI missing a bunch of injured players that were available for the 1st game? Or did SDSU have guys injured in the 1st game that were back for last night?


SDSU started playing a lot better after that point. I doubt that was injury related, but I could be wrong.

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Re: 2R - UNI @ (5) SoDak State

Postby Thumper 76 » Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:07 am

BDKJMU wrote:??? for you MVFC folks. The 1st game UNI won @ SDSU by 20. Last night again @ SDSU, SDSU won by 15. Why was there that 35 point swing? Was UNI missing a bunch of injured players that were available for the 1st game? Or did SDSU have guys injured in the 1st game that were back for last night?

Here’s the first half drives of the Hobo Day game that was miserably rainy, windy, and cold. It’s pretty easy to see what happened.

SDSU receives. 3&out
UNI 3&out
SDSU fumbles punt
UNI Possesion at SDSU 39-FG
SDSU throws INT that’s returned to their 3
UNI TD 10-0
SDSU gets 3 yds punt
UNI starts at SDSU 48 TD 17-0
SDSU fumbles at their 35
UNI turnover on downs @SDSU 20
After this SDSU scores a TD eventually, misses the XP, gets a UNI fumble, goes to kick a fg as the half expires and the snap goes through the holder’s hands. It was an absolute abortion. SDSU had 3 turnovers, a missed XP and a botched field goal that half I believe. On top of looking like they have never seen what a football before in their lives.




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Re: 2R - UNI @ (5) SoDak State

Postby dal4018 » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:07 am

clenz wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
Weymiller needed 42 carries to put up those SDSU numbers, though. Even with Weymiller, the Panthers ranked last in the MVFC in league play with 2.9 yards-per-carry. SDSU's run defense is sub-par, but UNI is still going to need more than just Weymiller running well to win this.

Yeah. Eli Dunn’s sucks. He hasn’t thrown for 2500 yards in 10 games with 25 TDS or anything.

The UNI run game isn’t about averaging 5 yards per carry. It’s about forcing the defense to respect that it can run. The UNI backs have a good number of 10+ yard runs because the defense gets lazy on those “2.9 ypc”

It’s also about clock control. UNI picks up 6 yards in 2 runs. It’s 3rd and 4. That’s pretty manageable. And opens a ton of options up

That’s where watching games actually comes in handy. You can’t see those things from stats.


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You said Dunne sucks what are his weaknesses he has NFL size 6'5 238 he threw for close to 2500 yds he is a junior he will be back.

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Re: 2R - UNI @ (5) SoDak State

Postby dal4018 » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:08 am

Mvemjsunpx wrote:
clenz wrote:Yeah. Eli Dunn’s sucks. He hasn’t thrown for 2500 yards in 10 games with 25 TDS or anything.

The UNI run game isn’t about averaging 5 yards per carry. It’s about forcing the defense to respect that it can run. The UNI backs have a good number of 10+ yard runs because the defense gets lazy on those “2.9 ypc”

It’s also about clock control. UNI picks up 6 yards in 2 runs. It’s 3rd and 4. That’s pretty manageable. And opens a ton of options up

That’s where watching games actually comes in handy. You can’t see those things from stats.


Uh, where did I say Eli Dunne sucks? :?

Good question I asked him as well about Dunne.

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Re: 2R - UNI @ (5) SoDak State

Postby dal4018 » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:19 am

South Dakota St has a redshirt frosh QB ALEC CROOMER 6'5 230 be on the lookout for him for the next 3 yrs.


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