…That Was Unexpected

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…That Was Unexpected

Postby Mvemjsunpx » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:36 pm



It's still unclear whether this is now or end-of-season.

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Re: …That Was Unexpected

Postby Grizalltheway » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:41 pm

Don't know why they would announce it now if it wasn't effective until the end of the season.

Either way at least he got the Griz monkey off his back before it happened.

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Re: …That Was Unexpected

Postby Mvemjsunpx » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:52 pm

Grizalltheway wrote:Don't know why they would announce it now if it wasn't effective until the end of the season.

Either way at least he got the Griz monkey off his back before it happened.


I can't imagine this is just on-the-field related if he was fired after 2 games. It's not like their season was hopeless.

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Re: …That Was Unexpected

Postby Mvemjsunpx » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:59 pm

It sounds like NAU fired Souers after two games, but they're having him coach the rest of the season. How bush league is that? They were expected to be a playoff contender. What if they make the playoffs? What if they make a deep playoff run? Do they still fire him? Or do they change their minds? And, if they do change their minds, does Souers tell them to **** off?


I don't think Souers is really on board with all of this…


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Re: …That Was Unexpected

Postby JALMOND » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:11 pm

Mvemjsunpx wrote:It sounds like NAU fired Souers after two games, but they're having him coach the rest of the season. How bush league is that? They were expected to be a playoff contender. What if they make the playoffs? What if they make a deep playoff run? Do they still fire him? Or do they change their minds? And, if they do change their minds, does Souers tell them to **** off?


I don't think Souers is really on board with all of this…


Souers contract runs through the 2017 season. If they fire him during the season, they still have to pay him for the season. Here's the article from back when he signed it.

http://www.foxsports.com/arizona/story/ ... act-011314

It says 2018, but the contract actually expires 1-31-18.

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Re: …That Was Unexpected

Postby Mvemjsunpx » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:17 pm

JALMOND wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:It sounds like NAU fired Souers after two games, but they're having him coach the rest of the season. How bush league is that? They were expected to be a playoff contender. What if they make the playoffs? What if they make a deep playoff run? Do they still fire him? Or do they change their minds? And, if they do change their minds, does Souers tell them to **** off?


I don't think Souers is really on board with all of this…


Souers contract runs through the 2017 season. If they fire him during the season, they still have to pay him for the season. Here's the article from back when he signed it.

http://www.foxsports.com/arizona/story/ ... act-011314

It says 2018, but the contract actually expires 1-31-18.


OK… but that's true for most any coach that gets fired mid-season, is it not? Why would you announce it now, before the team's final fate is anywhere near known? If they 'Jacks make the playoffs, NAU's leadership then looks like the biggest jackasses in college football. Their "we wanted the players to prepare for his departure" excuse is nonsense. It's not like they'd be shocked if Souers got fired following a bad season—this is Division I college football, after all.

I'm kinda surprised Souers was even willing to go through that press conference and stay around as a literal lame duck, to be honest.

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Re: …That Was Unexpected

Postby kalm » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:28 pm

Mvemjsunpx wrote:
JALMOND wrote:
Souers contract runs through the 2017 season. If they fire him during the season, they still have to pay him for the season. Here's the article from back when he signed it.

http://www.foxsports.com/arizona/story/ ... act-011314

It says 2018, but the contract actually expires 1-31-18.


OK… but that's true for most any coach that gets fired mid-season, is it not? Why would you announce it now, before the team's final fate is anywhere near known? If they 'Jacks make the playoffs, NAU's leadership then looks like the biggest jackasses in college football. Their "we wanted the players to prepare for his departure" excuse is nonsense. It's not like they'd be shocked if Souers got fired following a bad season—this is Division I college football, after all.

I'm kinda surprised Souers was even willing to go through that press conference and stay around as a literal lame duck, to be honest.


Yeah I'm going to go a step further and say this is just **** stupid.
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Re: …That Was Unexpected

Postby JALMOND » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:31 pm

Mvemjsunpx wrote:
JALMOND wrote:
Souers contract runs through the 2017 season. If they fire him during the season, they still have to pay him for the season. Here's the article from back when he signed it.

http://www.foxsports.com/arizona/story/ ... act-011314

It says 2018, but the contract actually expires 1-31-18.


OK… but that's true for most any coach that gets fired mid-season, is it not? Why would you announce it now, before the team's final fate is anywhere near known? If they 'Jacks make the playoffs, NAU's leadership then looks like the biggest jackasses in college football. Their "we wanted the players to prepare for his departure" excuse is nonsense. It's not like they'd be shocked if Souers got fired following a bad season—this is Division I college football, after all.

I'm kinda surprised Souers was even willing to go through that press conference and stay around as a literal lame duck, to be honest.


I'm thinking a lot of behind the scenes that we don't know about yet. If the contract was up this year, why no mention of an extension in the summer? Or, to the other extreme, no mention of letting him go after the season? Souers had to know heading in to the season that something was up if the administration was not telling him anything. Maybe Souers was already a lame-duck and they just announced it. Maybe someone spoke out of turn when pressured by a nosy reporter and NAU had to rush something out to refute it. Still a lot of things to figure out.

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Re: …That Was Unexpected

Postby Mvemjsunpx » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:40 pm

JALMOND wrote:I'm thinking a lot of behind the scenes that we don't know about yet. If the contract was up this year, why no mention of an extension in the summer? Or, to the other extreme, no mention of letting him go after the season? Souers had to know heading in to the season that something was up if the administration was not telling him anything. Maybe Souers was already a lame-duck and they just announced it. Maybe someone spoke out of turn when pressured by a nosy reporter and NAU had to rush something out to refute it. Still a lot of things to figure out.


Definitely true, but there don't seem to be a lot of possibilities that make NAU's leadership look good.

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Re: …That Was Unexpected

Postby SDHornet » Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:16 pm

Poor look for the NAU admin...especially as they now start looking for a new HC. Yikes.

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Re: …That Was Unexpected

Postby SuperHornet » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:20 pm

So NAU loses to a P5 and a nationally ranked FCS OOC opponent, and that's as far as the season has gone so far. I fail to see the justification for the axe here....
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Re: …That Was Unexpected

Postby SDHornet » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:02 pm

SuperHornet wrote:So NAU loses to a P5 and a nationally ranked FCS OOC opponent, and that's as far as the season has gone so far. I fail to see the justification for the axe here....

It means they had no intention of rehiring him at the conclusion of the season...only the admin totally mishandled the PR side of it and let the cat out of the bag long before they should have.


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