89Hen wrote:Did a 7-4 St Francis really belong in the tournament last year? One of their wins was against a 3-8 DII team, so really they were more like 6-4. I don't care if you do win your conference. If you're getting beaten up OOC in I-AA (they didn't play any I-A games), you don't belong.
Yes we will never agree because the single most important thing to me is to ensure that the greatest possible number of teams control their own destiny regardless of opinions. An ideal system is one like the NFL where there is absolutely no selection through opinion. The rules for making the playoffs are mathematically prescribed ahead of time.
In college football I think the best way to ensure that the greatest number of teams control their own destiny regardless of opinion is the conference automatic bid process. If you have that you do ensure that every team that is in a conference controls its own destiny. At the same time you get to be realistic in terms of the differences between conferences by having the at large selections.
But, again, the starting point for me is to establish a baseline through which the largest possible number of teams control their own destiny regardless of opinion.
You're comparing a league where there are 32 teams playing 16 games a piece, against 41% of the league. It's a non-starter John. Even with NFL teams playing so many teams in the league, there are many years where it's questionable that a division winner is worthy of a spot.
You realize that half the teams in I-AA don't play more than 1 game against a I-AA team not in their conference? That's why the computer models DO NOT WORK and why a team that plays in a inferior conference may not deserve a guaranteed spot.
Here is the entirety of the Pioneer OOC games against the rest of I-AA last year:
Dayton: 1-1 vs two NEC teams
San Diego: 0-1 vs Big Sky
Drake: 0-1 vs MVFC
Butler: 0-1 vs MVFC
Jax: 0-2 vs Big South/NEC
Marist: 0-3 vs Patriot/NEC
Valpo: 0-2 vs Patriot/MVFC
Morehead: 0-2 vs CAA/SoCon
Stetson: 1-1 vs Ivy/NEC
Davidson: 0-1 vs Patriot
Campbell: 0-1 vs Big South
So that's 2-16 vs the rest of I-AA with the two wins being Dayton over 2-9 Robert Morris and Stetson over 4-6 Brown. That should hit you like a frying pan over the head. The Pioneer DOES NOT DESERVE AN AUTO BID. If Dayton had a great year and beat a couple I-AA teams OOC, they can always get an at-large.