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Nice work, idiots.
A West Point prank has had some terrible consequences, as Air Force’s live mascot suffered what are being called potentially life-threatening injuries. The prank happened prior to Army’s win over Air Force at West Point on Saturday.
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Glad my tax dollars fly that fbcking bird all over the country.


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CID1990 wrote:Glad my tax dollars fly that fbcking bird all over the country.


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Grizalltheway wrote:
CID1990 wrote:Glad my tax dollars fly that fbcking bird all over the country.


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Probably a bargain compared to flying the cheeto around to shill for Republicans.
Doesn't Trump have to pay for those flights, about $180k/hr
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Grizalltheway wrote:
CID1990 wrote:Glad my tax dollars fly that fbcking bird all over the country.


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Probably a bargain compared to flying the cheeto around to shill for Republicans.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
We're still paying for flying the brillo pad around to shill for Democrats.
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Ibanez wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote: Probably a bargain compared to flying the cheeto around to shill for Republicans.
Doesn't Trump have to pay for those flights, about $180k/hr
Sure, in the same sense that he "had to pay" his contractors. :coffee:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote: Probably a bargain compared to flying the cheeto around to shill for Republicans.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
We're still paying for flying the brillo pad around to shill for Democrats.
:roll: Obama is getting free flights? That's a new one.
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Grizalltheway wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Doesn't Trump have to pay for those flights, about $180k/hr
Sure, in the same sense that he "had to pay" his contractors. :coffee:
I'd bet the gov't isn't firing up the engines if they haven't been reimbursed for the previous trips, per campaign finance rules.
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Ibanez wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
We're still paying for flying the brillo pad around to shill for Democrats.
:roll: Obama is getting free flights? That's a new one.
Guaranteed he's getting them free from somebody. :nod:
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Ibanez wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
We're still paying for flying the brillo pad around to shill for Democrats.
:roll: Obama is getting free flights? That's a new one.
Not politically motivated, but just a question here - who pays for the airfare of the Secret Service folks who are still assigned to former Presidents? I assume they have to be on the same plane of course.
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GannonFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote: :roll: Obama is getting free flights? That's a new one.
Not politically motivated, but just a question here - who pays for the airfare of the Secret Service folks who are still assigned to former Presidents? I assume they have to be on the same plane of course.
I think that's obvious. Taxpayers foot the bill for the Secret Service folks. But Taxpayers are probably not paying for the airfare, in flight cocktails and meals for the candidate and anyone accompanying him outside of their protective detail.
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Ibanez wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Not politically motivated, but just a question here - who pays for the airfare of the Secret Service folks who are still assigned to former Presidents? I assume they have to be on the same plane of course.
I think that's obvious. Taxpayers foot the bill for the Secret Service folks. But Taxpayers are probably not paying for the airfare, in flight cocktails and meals for the candidate and anyone accompanying him outside of their protective detail.
Who do you think is? Because it sure ain't the Obamas. And you think he's flying commercial?
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote: I think that's obvious. Taxpayers foot the bill for the Secret Service folks. But Taxpayers are probably not paying for the airfare, in flight cocktails and meals for the candidate and anyone accompanying him outside of their protective detail.
Who do you think is? Because it sure ain't the Obamas. And you think he's flying commercial?
Who do I think is paying for Obama to campaign? Probably the various campaigns and/or DNC. You honestly think it's all taxpayer funded travel? The biggest taxpayer outlay for a former POTUS is office space followed by their pension.

A former POTUS does get taxpayer funded airfare (for lack of a better term) when their doing something in their capacity as a former, even then that number is capped and they can only fly with 2 staffers. Jet Setting to St. Kitts for vacation doesn't count. Because these people are getting speaking fees, appearance fees, attending something in their capacity as Former POTUS, they travel more times than not is paid be someone/something other than the taxpayer.


I would say, short of a conspiracy, any POTUS travelling for political purposes like a campaign, is having a large portion of that paid by the campaign, themselves or "donated" which is still a campaign contribution. Those rules apply for fundraising trips

https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and ... campaigns/


Btw, The Carters and The Clintons are known to fly commercially.
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Ibanez wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Who do you think is? Because it sure ain't the Obamas. And you think he's flying commercial?
Who do I think is paying for Obama to campaign? Probably the various campaigns and/or DNC. You honestly think it's all taxpayer funded travel? The biggest taxpayer outlay for a former POTUS is office space followed by their pension.

A former POTUS does get taxpayer funded airfare (for lack of a better term) when their doing something in their capacity as a former, even then that number is capped and they can only fly with 2 staffers. Jet Setting to St. Kitts for vacation doesn't count. Because these people are getting speaking fees, appearance fees, attending something in their capacity as Former POTUS, they travel more times than not is paid be someone/something other than the taxpayer.


I would say, short of a conspiracy, any POTUS travelling for political purposes like a campaign, is having a large portion of that paid by the campaign, themselves or "donated" which is still a campaign contribution. Those rules apply for fundraising trips

https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and ... campaigns/


Btw, The Carters and The Clintons are known to fly commercially.
I'm sure the Clintons have flown commercially at some point but the vast majority of their non-gov air travel is charter.


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The bird is going to be OK, thankfully.

Details on the actions of the Army geniuses:
The New York Times reported Sunday that Aurora and Oblio, a peregrine falcon about seven years younger, were taken by two West Point cadets on Friday night.

The cadets threw sweaters over the birds, and later stuffed them into dog crates, Sam Dollar, the Air Force Academy’s falconry team adviser, told the newspaper. When the cadets returned the birds Saturday morning, Aurora had blood on her wings from abrasions likely caused by thrashing around in the crate, Dollar said.

“I think they had them for a couple hours and then they realized it was a bad mistake,” the Times quoted Dollar. “When Aurora started thrashing around in the crate, they decided that wasn’t a good thing.”

Aurora’s injuries have risen to the highest level at the military schools.

AFA spokeswoman Lt. Col. Tracy Bunko said AFA Superintendent Lt. Gen. Jay Silveria has been in contact with his counterpart at West Point, Lt. Gen. Darryl Williams.

Aurora was the grand dame of the school’s heralded falconry program, which includes a half-dozen birds managed by a dozen cadets.

Animal abuse, specifically to an animal on the government’s payroll, is a crime in the military. The crime of “abuse of a public animal” has been on the military’s books since the Army was founded, and has been used primarily to charge those who abused pack animals, such as mules and horses.

While Aurora is a mascot, the statute could apply, with a conviction potentially resulting in up to a year behind bars and a dishonorable discharge.
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Aurora was being kept in the home of a volunteer sponsor, an Army colonel, as is customary whenever the Air Force team is on the road, Garnhart said.
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I mean, really. Isn't this obvious to the most casual observer????
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Grizalltheway wrote:
CID1990 wrote:Glad my tax dollars fly that fbcking bird all over the country.


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Probably a bargain compared to flying the cheeto around to shill for Republicans.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote: Probably a bargain compared to flying the cheeto around to shill for Republicans.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
We're still paying for flying the brillo pad around to shill for Democrats.

Trump has racked up more vacation expense in less than two years than Obama did in 8, but sure, blame the black guy.
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The cadets who did it should be expelled or, at the very least, forced to muck out the cavalry stables for the rest of their miserble careers. :twocents:
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Ivytalk wrote:The cadets who did it should be expelled or, at the very least, forced to muck out the cavalry stables for the rest of their miserble careers. :twocents:
It happens almost every year, at almost every military academy rivalry game...sadly, this one went awry.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:The cadets who did it should be expelled or, at the very least, forced to muck out the cavalry stables for the rest of their miserble careers. :twocents:
It happens almost every year, at almost every military academy rivalry game...sadly, this one went awry.
They've never been able to nab a falcon before, and goats and mules aren't exactly fragile.

The guy who's going to be fucked here is the Colonel who was hosting the bird. I'm sure the Cadets didn't break in to his residence. I'm going to go with complicity for $200, Alex.

His ass is grass. :lol:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:The cadets who did it should be expelled or, at the very least, forced to muck out the cavalry stables for the rest of their miserble careers. :twocents:
It happens almost every year, at almost every military academy rivalry game...sadly, this one went awry.
Not at The Citadel, it doesn't

because we're competent and the keydeets know better

and keydats are more clever than the typical weiners who go to service academies

if you can't do something as simple as guarding a dumb animal in a cage maybe you shouldn't be responsible for multimillion dollar aircraft and things that go boom


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