FBS Playoffs (Poll)

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Who you got winning it all?

Poll ended at Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:35 am

#1 Clemson
13
59%
#2 Oklahoma
3
14%
#3 Georgia
3
14%
#4 Alabama
3
14%
 
Total votes: 22

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Re: FBS Playoffs (Poll)

Postby JohnStOnge » Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:21 pm

89Hen wrote:
SDHornet wrote:Just watch Bama, "3rd best" team in the SEC, pull off another title...yeah SEC really sucks. :lol:

Who said they suck? You guys crack me up.


The main thing is that if they're only going to have four teams in a playoff failing to win the conference championship should be disqualifying. Alabama did not earn getting IN to the final four. They did not even win their division within their conference. That's the part that sucks.

Like take their route as opposed to Georgia. Georgia won their division of the SEC so they would have had to win what were essentially three playoff games to get the title. They had to win the SEC championship game, then they had to win the semifinal, then they had to try to win the championship game.

Bama actually got rewarded for not winning its division of the SEC by having to win only two games to get the championship. It's like they got a bye for failing. The system has a serious flaw in that regard. No way Alabama should've been rewarded like that for failing to win its division of the SEC.
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Re: FBS Playoffs (Poll)

Postby kalm » Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:44 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:
89Hen wrote:Who said they suck? You guys crack me up.


The main thing is that if they're only going to have four teams in a playoff failing to win the conference championship should be disqualifying. Alabama did not earn getting IN to the final four. They did not even win their division within their conference. That's the part that sucks.

Like take their route as opposed to Georgia. Georgia won their division of the SEC so they would have had to win what were essentially three playoff games to get the title. They had to win the SEC championship game, then they had to win the semifinal, then they had to try to win the championship game.

Bama actually got rewarded for not winning its division of the SEC by having to win only two games to get the championship. It's like they got a bye for failing. The system has a serious flaw in that regard. No way Alabama should've been rewarded like that for failing to win its division of the SEC.


The system is totally flawed at 4 teams, but just like with FCS you're supposed select the 4 best teams regardless of conference affiliation. You also need to parse through SOS, quality wins, etc. It's tough at this point to say Bama wasn't one of the 4 best.

Lucky guess by the committee. The only antidote is to expand. Short of that, I agree that punishing Bama and SEC for scheduling weak would help.

Just need to expand.
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Re: FBS Playoffs (Poll)

Postby 89Hen » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:43 am

kalm wrote:Just need to expand.

That's the thing. It's such an easy fix and there is NO valid argument to not expand.

Too many games? I-AA, D2 and D3 all make it work and with MORE playoff games than an 8 team field.

It makes the regular season "meaningless"? It actually makes more teams' regular seasons meaningful.

It makes the bowls "meaningless"? They already are as meaningful or meaningless as they're going to get.
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Re: FBS Playoffs (Poll)

Postby GannonFan » Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:12 am

kalm wrote:
Lucky guess by the committee. The only antidote is to expand. Short of that, I agree that punishing Bama and SEC for scheduling weak would help.

Just need to expand.


Already too late for next year. 'Bama is basically already in the 2018-19 playoffs. OOC schedule includes Louisville (without Lamar Jackson and in a neutral site in Orlando), and then three home games against lightweights (LA-Lafayette, Ark St, and The Citadel). Crossover game with the SEC East is home against Missouri and the annual game with doormat Tennessee. Only 4 true away games on campus, they don't have to travel any further west than Little Rock, and the furthest game is that neutral site game against a diminished Louisville team. Even if they lose the one tough game on their schedule (at LSU) this year proves that they'll be in the playoffs anyway. Heck, they might want to lose to LSU so that they get an extra week of rest by not having to play the SEC title game.

Needs to be 8 teams just to get the SEC teams to play more teams from other power conferences. Too much schedule hiding going on.
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Re: FBS Playoffs (Poll)

Postby SDHornet » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:06 pm

Should expand, but won't. It's a damn shame too, I would love to see an 8 team P5 playoff.

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Re: FBS Playoffs (Poll)

Postby 89Hen » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:00 am

SDHornet wrote:Should expand, but won't.

Care to wager?
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Re: FBS Playoffs (Poll)

Postby SDHornet » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:31 pm

89Hen wrote:
SDHornet wrote:Should expand, but won't.

Care to wager?

It won't expand before the current CFP contract expires.

I'll wager a $50 donation to the local animal shelter. You game?

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Re: FBS Playoffs (Poll)

Postby 89Hen » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:01 pm

SDHornet wrote:
89Hen wrote:Care to wager?

It won't expand before the current CFP contract expires.

I'll wager a $50 donation to the local animal shelter. You game?

When is that? Next year?
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Re: FBS Playoffs (Poll)

Postby SDHornet » Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:45 pm

89Hen wrote:
SDHornet wrote:It won't expand before the current CFP contract expires.

I'll wager a $50 donation to the local animal shelter. You game?

When is that? Next year?

ESPN TV deal is through 2025, so I assume 2025 is the last year of the current contract. Not sure though.

Still game?

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Re: FBS Playoffs (Poll)

Postby 89Hen » Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:32 am

SDHornet wrote:
89Hen wrote:When is that? Next year?

ESPN TV deal is through 2025, so I assume 2025 is the last year of the current contract. Not sure though.

Still game?

That it won't ever expand? Sure.
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Re: FBS Playoffs (Poll)

Postby SDHornet » Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:55 pm

89Hen wrote:
SDHornet wrote:ESPN TV deal is through 2025, so I assume 2025 is the last year of the current contract. Not sure though.

Still game?

That it won't ever expand? Sure.

Nice job with reading comprehension there. :lol: :dunce:

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Re: FBS Playoffs (Poll)

Postby 89Hen » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:27 pm

SDHornet wrote:Should expand, but won't. It's a damn shame too, I would love to see an 8 team P5 playoff.

Where do you give a timeframe when I asked if you'd like to wager?

Will it expand before it can? Um, no. Will it expand eventually? It's inevitable. Just look at I-AA. We were absolutely, perfectly fine at 16 and it still expanded. I-A is NOT fine at 4, so it will expand.
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Re: FBS Playoffs (Poll)

Postby SDHornet » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:39 pm

89Hen wrote:
SDHornet wrote:Should expand, but won't. It's a damn shame too, I would love to see an 8 team P5 playoff.

Where do you give a timeframe when I asked if you'd like to wager?

Will it expand before it can? Um, no. Will it expand eventually? It's inevitable. Just look at I-AA. We were absolutely, perfectly fine at 16 and it still expanded. I-A is NOT fine at 4, so it will expand.

The post where I state the TV deal as the time frame. Didn't know I had to hold your hand through this whole thing.

My terms was that it wouldn't expand before the current contract is up. You seemed to be incapable of grasping that straightforward guideline.

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Re: FBS Playoffs (Poll)

Postby 89Hen » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:44 pm

SDHornet wrote:
89Hen wrote:Where do you give a timeframe when I asked if you'd like to wager?

Will it expand before it can? Um, no. Will it expand eventually? It's inevitable. Just look at I-AA. We were absolutely, perfectly fine at 16 and it still expanded. I-A is NOT fine at 4, so it will expand.

The post where I state the TV deal as the time frame. Didn't know I had to hold your hand through this whole thing.

My terms was that it wouldn't expand before the current contract is up. You seemed to be incapable of grasping that straightforward guideline.

I don't know what got in your bonnet here. You said it won't expand. I begged to differ. Of course it probably won't expand during the current format contract.
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