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Predicting the CFP Final 4

Postby Pwns » Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:50 pm

What it will be:
1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Notre Dame
4. Oklahoma

What it ought to be:
1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. UGA
4. Oklahoma

Above all, I'm rooting for as many Power 5 conference to get left out as possible so I'm hoping ND and UCF get in, but IMO neither are really one of the top 4 teams in the country.
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Re: Predicting the CFP Final 4

Postby CID1990 » Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:55 pm

I predicted the FBS playoffs would expand to 16 within the next 5 or so years and I still think it will happen.

National tournaments are like government - they just expand


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Re: Predicting the CFP Final 4

Postby Pwns » Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:58 pm

CID1990 wrote:I predicted the FBS playoffs would expand to 16 within the next 5 or so years and I still think it will happen.

National tournaments are like government - they just expand


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Glad that Ohio State is getting left out. Not that I hate them like many here seem to, but the B1G has so much power and influence that them getting locked out of the CFP brings us another step towards expansion.
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Re: Predicting the CFP Final 4

Postby SuperHornet » Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:59 pm

Meh.

I would have had UCF vs. Alabama and Notre Dame vs. Clemson. Undefeated is undefeated. I'm sick and tired of the P5 defining people out....
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Re: Predicting the CFP Final 4

Postby 89Hen » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:54 am

Pwns wrote:What it ought to be:
1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. UGA
4. Oklahoma

Above all, I'm rooting for as many Power 5 conference to get left out as possible so I'm hoping ND and UCF get in, but IMO neither are really one of the top 4 teams in the country.

Spoken like a true SEC homer. :lol:
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Re: Predicting the CFP Final 4

Postby Gil Dobie » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:23 am

Georgia lost their play-in game on Saturday.
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Re: Predicting the CFP Final 4

Postby GannonFan » Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:59 am

Gil Dobie wrote:Georgia lost their play-in game on Saturday.


Besides, Georgia got thumped by an LSU team that doesn't even have an effective QB. How they scored 36 points against Georgia should be what occupies 'Dawgs fans for the offseason to come. And besides, how many more times do we need to watch Georgia choke late in games against 'Bama? Certainly don't need it twice in one year.
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Re: Predicting the CFP Final 4

Postby JohnStOnge » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:13 pm

SuperHornet wrote:Meh.

I would have had UCF vs. Alabama and Notre Dame vs. Clemson. Undefeated is undefeated. I'm sick and tired of the P5 defining people out....


Undefeated is self-evidently undefeated but I think who a team went undefeated against does matter. UCF didn't play anybody in the current CFP top 25. The highest rated team they played according to the Sagarin ratings is Cincinnati at 39th. Their schedule rating by Sagarin is 90th.

If you're going to only put 4 teams in the playoffs you can't put somebody in for going undefeated against THAT weak of a schedule.

Now, me, I'd have a playoff system whereby every conference champ would get an automatic bid so they'd be in if I had my way. But it wouldn't be a 4 team playoff. It'd probably do something similar to FCS and have 24 with 10 automatic bids and 14 at large berths. But if you're just going to have 4 teams and the criterion is to try to honestly pick the 4 best teams you can't say that an undefeated team is going to be in no matter HOW weak its schedule is.
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Re: Predicting the CFP Final 4

Postby UNI88 » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:45 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:
SuperHornet wrote:Meh.

I would have had UCF vs. Alabama and Notre Dame vs. Clemson. Undefeated is undefeated. I'm sick and tired of the P5 defining people out....


Undefeated is self-evidently undefeated but I think who a team went undefeated against does matter. UCF didn't play anybody in the current CFP top 25. The highest rated team they played according to the Sagarin ratings is Cincinnati at 39th. Their schedule rating by Sagarin is 90th.

If you're going to only put 4 teams in the playoffs you can't put somebody in for going undefeated against THAT weak of a schedule.

Now, me, I'd have a playoff system whereby every conference champ would get an automatic bid so they'd be in if I had my way. But it wouldn't be a 4 team playoff. It'd probably do something similar to FCS and have 24 with 10 automatic bids and 14 at large berths. But if you're just going to have 4 teams and the criterion is to try to honestly pick the 4 best teams you can't say that an undefeated team is going to be in no matter HOW weak its schedule is.


I think UCF would love to play a tougher OOC schedule but I doubt many top P5 schools want to play them.

I also think that 8 is plenty for FBS. The 5 P5 Conference Champs, the highest ranked G5 team if they're ranked in the top 15 or so, plus the 2 best at-larges. Conference championships become a de-facto play-in game for 3-4 of the P5 conferences.

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Re: Predicting the CFP Final 4

Postby 89Hen » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:57 am

UNI88 wrote:I think UCF would love to play a tougher OOC schedule but I doubt many top P5 schools want to play them.

2019 - Stanford and Pitt
2020 - UNC and Georgia Tech
2021 - Louisville
2022 - Louisville and Georgia Tech
2024 and 2025 - North Carolina
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Re: RE: Re: Predicting the CFP Final 4

Postby UNI88 » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:04 am

89Hen wrote:
UNI88 wrote:I think UCF would love to play a tougher OOC schedule but I doubt many top P5 schools want to play them.

2019 - Stanford and Pitt
2020 - UNC and Georgia Tech
2021 - Louisville
2022 - Louisville and Georgia Tech
2024 and 2025 - North Carolina
TOP P5 schools
2019 - Stanford
Any others?

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Re: RE: Re: Predicting the CFP Final 4

Postby 89Hen » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:23 am

UNI88 wrote:
89Hen wrote:2019 - Stanford and Pitt
2020 - UNC and Georgia Tech
2021 - Louisville
2022 - Louisville and Georgia Tech
2024 and 2025 - North Carolina
TOP P5 schools
2019 - Stanford
Any others?

I was just giving you the list. FWIW, Pitt was ranked very late in this season.
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Re: Predicting the CFP Final 4

Postby SuperHornet » Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:31 pm

UNI88 wrote:I think UCF would love to play a tougher OOC schedule but I doubt many top P5 schools want to play them.


Exactly the problem Boise had. No "accepted" good team will play the upstart, so they're kept out on the basis of a phony SOS argument. "They didn't play anybody." Well, they didn't "play anybody" because all the "anybodys" were cowards. Self-fulfilling prophecy.

An FCS-type playoff prevents this bogus behaviour on the part of the "haves" vs. the "have-nots."
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