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What happens if Trump's lawyers can' produce the missing document?
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Its been a week now since it was first reported that the Iran document Trump referenced in his discussion with unauthorized personnel has gone missing and......crickets. Now, nobody is saying that it is related to the $2,000,000,000 that the Saudis gave to his son-in-law for...something, and it could all be a coincidence but, many people are saying...
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I'm disappointed, SG, thought you'd be on this like a chicken on a junebug...you've lost a step..
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I assume it will now be a part of discovery but it’s interesting why Bedminster wasn’t raided.
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kalm wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:00 am I assume it will now be a part of discovery but it’s interesting why Bedminster wasn’t raided.
To get a search warrant, the probable cause/evidence must be "fresh" for a judge to sign off on it. The intel that docs were brought to Bedminster is over a year old. No way they would have been granted one without some info that's more recent.

That pesky fourth amendment poking it's head up on that one. If it wasn't that way then your old friend that you had a falling out with could say that you had drugs in your house when you were in your 20's and the law could come ransack your place tomorrow.
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bobbythekidd wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:56 pm
kalm wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:00 am I assume it will now be a part of discovery but it’s interesting why Bedminster wasn’t raided.
To get a search warrant, the probable cause/evidence must be "fresh" for a judge to sign off on it. The intel that docs were brought to Bedminster is over a year old. No way they would have been granted one without some info that's more recent.

That pesky fourth amendment poking it's head up on that one. If it wasn't that way then your old friend that you had a falling out with could say that you had drugs in your house when you were in your 20's and the law could come ransack your place tomorrow.
That makes a bunch of sense. Thank you.
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kalm wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:56 pm
bobbythekidd wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:56 pm
To get a search warrant, the probable cause/evidence must be "fresh" for a judge to sign off on it. The intel that docs were brought to Bedminster is over a year old. No way they would have been granted one without some info that's more recent.

That pesky fourth amendment poking it's head up on that one. If it wasn't that way then your old friend that you had a falling out with could say that you had drugs in your house when you were in your 20's and the law could come ransack your place tomorrow.
That makes a bunch of sense. Thank you.
The New York Times hits Donald Trump with a devastating Tuesday night bombshell, revealing that “Special Counsel Jack Smith subpoenaed surveillance footage from Trump’s Bedminster resort in New Jersey” just as he did for Mar-a-Lago.

This is courtesy of the almost 30 Secret Service Agents that have testified in a separate grand jury about Trump.

Look for another search warrant soon.
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bobbythekidd wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 5:47 am
kalm wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:56 pm

That makes a bunch of sense. Thank you.
The New York Times hits Donald Trump with a devastating Tuesday night bombshell, revealing that “Special Counsel Jack Smith subpoenaed surveillance footage from Trump’s Bedminster resort in New Jersey” just as he did for Mar-a-Lago.

This is courtesy of the almost 30 Secret Service Agents that have testified in a separate grand jury about Trump.

Look for another search warrant soon.
It’s been puzzling why Bedminster hasn’t been searched. They were waiting on testimony and to flip witnesses.

Garland is taking some heat for slow rolling the investigation from the start. That’s seems like a fair criticism unless the documents case is truly just the first course.
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bobbythekidd wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 5:47 am
kalm wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:56 pm

That makes a bunch of sense. Thank you.
The New York Times hits Donald Trump with a devastating Tuesday night bombshell, revealing that “Special Counsel Jack Smith subpoenaed surveillance footage from Trump’s Bedminster resort in New Jersey” just as he did for Mar-a-Lago.

This is courtesy of the almost 30 Secret Service Agents that have testified in a separate grand jury about Trump.

Look for another search warrant soon.
That one was interesting I'm sure - I wonder what the two agents who were going to offer contradicting testimony about the episode with trump and his driver said.
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Doesn't matter who they were. Their bravado followed by their silence tells you all you need to know about their claims.
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bobbythekidd wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:22 am Doesn't matter who they were. Their bravado followed by their silence tells you all you need to know about their claims.
Wonder what else are they lying about.
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houndawg wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:38 pm What happens if Trump's lawyers can' produce the missing document?
How do you know Trump or his lawyers ever had the document? :coffee:
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 1:58 pm
houndawg wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:38 pm What happens if Trump's lawyers can' produce the missing document?
How do you know Trump or his lawyers ever had the document? :coffee:
Because he said he didn't have it. :coffee:
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BDKJMU wrote:
houndawg wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:38 pm What happens if Trump's lawyers can' produce the missing document?
How do you know Trump or his lawyers ever had the document? :coffee:
There is just as much if not more evidence of trump’s nefarious deeds as there is of Joe’s/Hunter’s. You will take any rumor or innuendo as proof of Biden guilt but would dismiss video evidence of trump’s.


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UNI88 wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:18 pm
BDKJMU wrote: How do you know Trump or his lawyers ever had the document? :coffee:
There is just as much if not more evidence of trump’s nefarious deeds as there is of Joe’s/Hunter’s. You will take any rumor or innuendo as proof of Biden guilt but would dismiss video evidence of trump’s.


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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 1:58 pm
houndawg wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:38 pm What happens if Trump's lawyers can' produce the missing document?
How do you know Trump or his lawyers ever had the document? :coffee:
You don't seriously think that the Saudis just handed the outgoing president's son-in-law $2,500,000,000 for nothing? Do you? :shock:

$2,500,000,000 is chump (rhymes with Trump) change for the Saudis, SG, - they would have paid twice that to get their hands on the US military's asessment of Iran's weaknesses and a battle plan for dealing with the Saudis bitter rival for regional dominance. :nod:
For a conspiracy wack who sees plots everywhere its interesting you haven't mentioned this one. :coffee:
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It is one thing to cultivate relationships that can produce opportunities after leaving office as Clinton, Obama and yes Jared Cushner did.

It is another thing altogether to take money while in office for political favors in office as the Bidens have.


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SeattleGriz wrote:
UNI88 wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:18 pm There is just as much if not more evidence of trump’s nefarious deeds as there is of Joe’s/Hunter’s. You will take any rumor or innuendo as proof of Biden guilt but would dismiss video evidence of trump’s.


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This is where you and kalm agree.


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UNI88 wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:17 am
SeattleGriz wrote:
Incorrect.
This is where you and kalm agree.


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What am I agreeing with here?
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houndawg wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 1:58 pm How do you know Trump or his lawyers ever had the document? :coffee:
You don't seriously think that the Saudis just handed the outgoing president's son-in-law $2,500,000,000 for nothing? Do you? :shock:

$2,500,000,000 is chump (rhymes with Trump) change for the Saudis, SG, - they would have paid twice that to get their hands on the US military's asessment of Iran's weaknesses and a battle plan for dealing with the Saudis bitter rival for regional dominance. :nod:
For a conspiracy wack who sees plots everywhere its interesting you haven't mentioned this one. :coffee:
The false god trump can do no wrong in the eyes of his worshippers. They see conspiracies everywhere except when they look in the mirror. Like most cults, they believe in the righteousness of their cause and that evil doers are out to get their idol.


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LeadBolt wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 5:51 am It is one thing to cultivate relationships that can produce opportunities after leaving office as Clinton, Obama and yes Jared Cushner did.

It is another thing altogether to take money while in office for political favors in office as the Bidens have.


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Not really. The bribery/grifting, leveraging campaign donations or in your case Saudi blood money didn’t just all happen after Trump left office.
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kalm wrote:
UNI88 wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:17 am This is where you and kalm agree.


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What am I agreeing with here?
That I’m incorrect that
UNI88 wrote: There is just as much if not more evidence of trump’s nefarious deeds as there is of Joe’s/Hunter’s.

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UNI88 wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:21 am
kalm wrote:
What am I agreeing with here?
That I’m incorrect that
UNI88 wrote: There is just as much if not more evidence of trump’s nefarious deeds as there is of Joe’s/Hunter’s.

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kalm wrote:
UNI88 wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:21 am That I’m incorrect that
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Am I?
You are just as sure that the Bidens’ misdeeds are less than the trumps’ as SG is of the opposite.


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UNI88 wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 9:00 am
kalm wrote:
Am I?
You are just as sure that the Bidens’ misdeeds are less than the trumps’ as SG is of the opposite.


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Because there’s overwhelming evidence provided through investigations, testimony and evidence that they are. The only people arguing otherwise are MAGA.

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