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UNI88 wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:02 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 12:25 pm
Have they? The conks (as a party) in the last 30-40 years have:

Gay Marriage & rights
-Conks shifted left.
-Donks shifted way left.
100% of conks, and and most donks, voted for 1996 Defense of Marriage Act. 20-25% of conks in Congress voted for its repeal 2 years ago.

Woke trans ideology
-Conks have stayed put.
-Donks shifted way left.

Conks certainly aren’t more right on this than 20/30/40 years ago to what wasn’t much of an issue then. This has taken off the last 6-8 years as something that has been pushed by the left. If it had been at the forefront 20, 30, 40 years ago, conks would have been just as to the right as now, if not more so.

Abortion
Conks: About the same
Donks: About the same.

Are conks any more to the right on abortion than 20-30-40 years ago? They always were pushing to have Row overturned.The donks seemed to have stayed about the same to.

2A
Conks: About the same.
Donks: Shifted left

30-40, 50 years ago kids could keep their hunting rifles in their vehicles on school property in the rural areas of just about every state, includong democrat districts. Up until about 40 yeara ago there weren’t even background checks. I think the donks have shifted left because of the near extinction of the rural democrats..

Illegal immigration/border security (social and economic issue):
Conks: Shifted right.
Donks: Shifted left.
Parties were pretty close I think 30-40 years ago. A large chunk of the conks wanted the cheap labor, and a large chunk of the donks were against it because of the unions. Remember in the 1990s there are clips of Clinton, Schumer, et al referring to illegal immigrants as..illegal immigrants while railing against it.

Religion/Christianity:
-Conks: stayed the same.
-Donks: shifted left.
Maybe some will disagree on this, but the fundies have been a major part of the conk part going back at least 40 years. I think its society that has shifted left, as the country has gone less religious over the last generation (ex church attendance has gone down).

I just mentioned the 1st half doz social issues that came to mind. What major social issues, besides immigration, have the conks shifted to the right on over the last 30-40 years?
Moderates/centrists like Murkowski & Collins and neo-cons with scruples like Cheney and Kinzinger are called RINOs.

Fundamentalist zealots may have always been a major part of the conk party but they have a lot more influence than they used to.

The Republican Party has become puritan prudes in:
- Attempting to force their social mores on others
- Prioritizing social issues over economics and opportunity
- Book banning
- Attacking businesses
- Not respecting states rights if those states have different philosophies (Idaho's abortion laws for example).
- Demonizing public education

They've also for the most part bought hook, line and sinker trump's BS that the 2020 election was stolen and that he's a victim of a witch hunt. They're more interested in going after the Bidens with the same zeal than actually governing but fail to see the irony.
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Just about exact same list can be made for the Democratic Party as well. Funny how both parties are nearly identical in their desire to stamp out true freedom. :coffee:
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Re: 2024 elections Congressional & State

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kalm wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 12:31 pm
houndawg wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 12:11 pm

:shock: well, that escalated quickly...
It’s ok. ‘88 is a good chap. There was once a time when neo-liberalism was exciting and new and could be embraced to a degree by classic conservatives. He’s just struggling with the inevitability of change like many are.

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so sad.... :ohno:
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Re: 2024 elections Congressional & State

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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 12:11 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 1:35 am
And now she forgot ahe was gone for 2 months.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/di ... r-AA1bhjns
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Feinstein 89
McConnel 81
Biden 80

I see a pattern here…
Cocaine Mitch goes all space cadet again.
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Running for re-election at 83. Insider trading pays too well. Going to need some more botox injections.
https://apnews.com/article/pelosi-house ... 1122f291e4
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MRomeny not running for re-election. Good riddance.
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Ruth Bader Feinstein is dead. These people don’t know when to quit. Her staff should be ashamed of themselves for basically pulling a Weekend At Bernies with her since this past Spring wheeling her around in a wheelchair when she looked like she was on death’s doorstep

Heck, her staff KNEW she was mentally gone a yr and a half ago. This was way worse than keeping Biden in office.
https://www.championshipsubdivision.com ... 2#p1402552

Cocaine Mitch on deck. Pelosi and Biden in the bullpen.
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 7:00 am Ruth Bader Feinstein is dead. These people don’t know when to quit. Her staff should be ashamed of themselves for basically pulling a Weekend At Bernies with her since this past Spring wheeling her around in a wheelchair when she looked like she was on death’s doorstep

Heck, her staff KNEW she was mentally gone a yr and a half ago. This was way worse than keeping Biden in office.
https://www.championshipsubdivision.com ... 2#p1402552

Cocaine Mitch on deck. Pelosi and Biden in the bullpen.
Ruth Bader? I didn't agree with RBG but I had a ton of respect for her. The only other supreme court justice in her league over the last 30 years was Scalia.
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 7:00 am Cocaine Mitch on deck. Pelosi and Biden in the bullpen.
And Trump. We should put a betting pool together to see if Biden or Trump dies first
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UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:34 am
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 7:00 am Ruth Bader Feinstein is dead. These people don’t know when to quit. Her staff should be ashamed of themselves for basically pulling a Weekend At Bernies with her since this past Spring wheeling her around in a wheelchair when she looked like she was on death’s doorstep

Heck, her staff KNEW she was mentally gone a yr and a half ago. This was way worse than keeping Biden in office.
https://www.championshipsubdivision.com ... 2#p1402552

Cocaine Mitch on deck. Pelosi and Biden in the bullpen.
Ruth Bader? I didn't agree with RBG but I had a ton of respect for her. The only other supreme court justice in her league over the last 30 years was Scalia.
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Skjellyfetti wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 10:13 am
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 7:00 am Cocaine Mitch on deck. Pelosi and Biden in the bullpen.
And Trump. We should put a betting pool together to see if Biden or Trump dies first
We should. Trump is close to 4 years younger and in way better shape mentally and physically (Trump’s fat vs Biden’s frailness).
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WaPo headline: Dianne Feinstein, centrist stalwart of the Senate, dies at 90

NBC News: "A centrist Democrat, she was known for trying to find common ground with Republicans, sometimes drawing criticism from her party’s liberal members."

NY Times: "Dianne Feinstein was a tough Democratic campaigner who called herself a political centrist and often embraced conservative ideas."

https://redstate.com/sister-toldjah/202 ... g-n2164457
Centrist my arse.. :dunce: :lol: :rofl:
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The tyrant Feinstein wanted to forcibly confiscate Americans’ guns.
“If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them.. ‘Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in,' I would have done it.”

https://redstate.com/jenniferoo/2023/09 ... n-n2164463
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And Newsom shows himself to be a racist and sexist, just like Biden, by picking someone to fill Feinstein’s seat based on race and sex. And he picked someone who lives in Maryland.
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 6:16 am And Newsom shows himself to be a racist and sexist, just like Biden, by picking someone to fill Feinstein’s seat based on race and sex. And he picked someone who lives in Maryland.
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kalm wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 7:10 am
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 6:16 am And Newsom shows himself to be a racist and sexist, just like Biden, by picking someone to fill Feinstein’s seat based on race and sex. And he picked someone who lives in Maryland.
It does lend to the funny meme that to find a qualified Californian for the position you need to tap someone who fled the state and lives elsewhere.

It does also at least show how fast people can change things like Wiki and X (formerly known as Twitter) to scrub out things they don't want there.

I have no problems with the pick - she's caretaking a seat until it gets filled with the election in 2024. And she clearly fits the political mold of the person who's seat she's filling and of the state in general. It's not like he picked someone like Trump.
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Newsom by pre declaring he was only going to pick a black female excluded 97% of the CA population (is about 6% black). That is racist and sexist.
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:53 pm Newsom by pre declaring he was only going to pick a black female excluded 97% of the CA population (is about 6% black). That is racist and sexist.
But close to 10%, or more, of Californians, live somewhere else, so they're empowered now. Representation matters. :thumb:
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GannonFan wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:59 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:53 pm Newsom by pre declaring he was only going to pick a black female excluded 97% of the CA population (is about 6% black). That is racist and sexist.
But close to 10%, or more, of Californians, live somewhere else, so they're empowered now. Representation matters. :thumb:
So she represents:
- 50% females
- 6% African Americans
- 10% expatriates

Take out the overlap and that's roughly 57% of the population. :coffee:
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:53 pm Newsom by pre declaring he was only going to pick a black female excluded 97% of the CA population (is about 6% black). That is racist and sexist.
How does it feel?
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GannonFan wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:59 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:53 pm Newsom by pre declaring he was only going to pick a black female excluded 97% of the CA population (is about 6% black). That is racist and sexist.
But close to 10%, or more, of Californians, live somewhere else, so they're empowered now. Representation matters. :thumb:
So Senators don’t need to live in states they represent. :suspicious:
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 1:48 pm
GannonFan wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:59 pm

But close to 10%, or more, of Californians, live somewhere else, so they're empowered now. Representation matters. :thumb:
So she represents:
- 50% females
- 6% African Americans
- 10% expatriates

Take out the overlap and that's roughly 57% of the population. :coffee:
But Newsome didn’t say ‘female’. He specifically said black female. Include Newsom’s qualifiers and you’re at 3% of the population. :coffee:
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 5:12 pm
GannonFan wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:59 pm

But close to 10%, or more, of Californians, live somewhere else, so they're empowered now. Representation matters. :thumb:
So Senators don’t need to live in states they represent. :suspicious:
Oh, I agree, it's a bit of a self-inflicted fail by Newsome if it turns out true, which looks like it is, that his nominee hasn't lived in the state for the past few years. It apparently wasn't hard to find this out, so the fact that the governor's office either knew it or didn't know it isn't a good look for them.
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 5:14 pm
UNI88 wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 1:48 pm

So she represents:
- 50% females
- 6% African Americans
- 10% expatriates

Take out the overlap and that's roughly 57% of the population. :coffee:
But Newsome didn’t say ‘female’. He specifically said black female. Include Newsom’s qualifiers and you’re at 3% of the population. :coffee:
Wah wah wah. She's a female, that's more than half the population. She's more than representative of the electorate. Focus more on the being from Maryland more than her race and sex.
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GannonFan wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 5:45 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 5:14 pm
But Newsome didn’t say ‘female’. He specifically said black female. Include Newsom’s qualifiers and you’re at 3% of the population. :coffee:
Wah wah wah. She's a female, that's more than half the population. She's more than representative of the electorate. Focus more on the being from Maryland more than her race and sex.
So according to your logic, if someone publicly declared they are going to only hire or appoint someone of a certain race and sex, say a white male, there’s nothing wrong with that, and wah wah if anyone complained. Got it.
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BDKJMU wrote:
GannonFan wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 5:45 pm

Wah wah wah. She's a female, that's more than half the population. She's more than representative of the electorate. Focus more on the being from Maryland more than her race and sex.
So according to your logic, if someone publicly declared they are going to only hire or appoint someone of a certain race and sex, say a white male, there’s nothing wrong with that, and wah wah if anyone complained. Got it.
They said that for hundreds of years. You’re butt hurt because the tables have been turned and they’re attempting to redress past wrongs.
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