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UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 15, 2023 12:01 pm
kalm wrote: Fri Sep 15, 2023 11:01 am The family values candidate won’t stand for these type of shenanigans!

- 5 children with 3 different women
- paid off a porn star and Playboy model to cover up affairs
- accused of sexually assaulting/raping 26+ different women
- lost a civil suit for sexual abuse and defamation
- ripped off numerous subcontractors by refusing to pay them for services provided

Family values & integrity ... :rofl:
These must be his nieces…

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Trump comment about punishing Gen. Milley with ‘death’ causes major outcry from GOP rivals
"There is no call for that kind of language directed toward someone who’s worn the uniform of the United States and served with such distinction," Pence said.

Former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson told Politico that Trump's rhetoric created genuine danger for Milley and disrespected the military. "To suggest that Gen. Milley should be executed is inexcusable and dangerous," Hutchinson told the outlet. "While some will excuse this latest outrage as Trump just being Trump, the fact is that his statement endangers people and is an insult to those who serve in the military."

Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie called Trump an "absolute child" for his comments during an interview with MSNBC.
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"As much as these comments are directed at me, it’s also directed at the institution of the military. And there is 2.1 million of us in uniform," Milley continued. "And the American people can take it to the bank, that all of us, every single one of us, from private to general, are loyal to that Constitution and will never turn our back on it no matter what. No matter what the threats, no matter what the humiliation, no matter what."
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Trump comment about punishing Gen. Milley with ‘death’ causes major outcry from GOP rivals
"There is no call for that kind of language directed toward someone who’s worn the uniform of the United States and served with such distinction," Pence said.

Former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson told Politico that Trump's rhetoric created genuine danger for Milley and disrespected the military. "To suggest that Gen. Milley should be executed is inexcusable and dangerous," Hutchinson told the outlet. "While some will excuse this latest outrage as Trump just being Trump, the fact is that his statement endangers people and is an insult to those who serve in the military."

Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie called Trump an "absolute child" for his comments during an interview with MSNBC.
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"As much as these comments are directed at me, it’s also directed at the institution of the military. And there is 2.1 million of us in uniform," Milley continued. "And the American people can take it to the bank, that all of us, every single one of us, from private to general, are loyal to that Constitution and will never turn our back on it no matter what. No matter what the threats, no matter what the humiliation, no matter what."
So the 2 biggest Trump haters on the right don’t like what Trump said about Milley. So what.

Milley:
-Committed borderline treason when while Trump was still POTUS Milley secretly contacted his Chinese counterpart that he would warn him beforehand of any US military action against China.
-Said “the Afghan Security Forces have the capacity to sufficiently fight and defend their country.” They lasted all of about a week :dunce:
-Publicly defended the disasterous Afghan withdrawl. :dunce:
-Defended closing the Bagram base in favor of Kabul.:dunce:
-Said they wouldn’t leave any American citizens behind in Afghanistan. They ended up leaving behind thousands.
-Was responsible for leaving behind tens billions of weaponry in Afghanistan for the Taliban :dunce:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrze ... 4611ba41db
-Defended a missile strike from a drone outside Kabul that took out am innocent family, calling it a ‘righteous’ strike.
-Refused to resign after the Afghanistan debacle, despite calls on both aides of the aisle to do so.
-Implemented a series of ultra woke policies.
-Has overseen 3 straight ywars of the military falling short of its recruiting and retention goals. Several factors, but one os the wokeness implemented under Milley. The majority of the military is legacy (had family who served). Vets are a little to the right of the population as a whole. Are polls that show many who served in prior decades have told their sons/daughters/nephews etc not today join in part because of the wokeness.

Trump’s Truth on Milley isn’t too far off.
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 12:32 pm
So the 2 biggest Trump haters on the right don’t like what Trump said about Milley. So what.

Milley:
-Committed borderline treason when while Trump was still POTUS Milley secretly contacted his Chinese counterpart that he would warn him beforehand of any US military action against China.
-Said “the Afghan Security Forces have the capacity to sufficiently fight and defend their country.” They lasted all of about a week :dunce:
-Publicly defended the disasterous Afghan withdrawl. :dunce:
-Defended closing the Bagram base in favor of Kabul.:dunce:
-Said they wouldn’t leave any American citizens behind in Afghanistan. They ended up leaving behind thousands.
-Was responsible for leaving behind tens billions of weaponry in Afghanistan for the Taliban :dunce:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrze ... 4611ba41db
-Defended a missile strike from a drone outside Kabul that took out am innocent family, calling it a ‘righteous’ strike.
-Refused to resign after the Afghanistan debacle, despite calls on both aides of the aisle to do so.
-Implemented a series of ultra woke policies.
-Has overseen 3 straight ywars of the military falling short of its recruiting and retention goals. Several factors, but one os the wokeness implemented under Milley. The majority of the military is legacy (had family who served). Vets are a little to the right of the population as a whole. Are polls that show many who served in prior decades have told their sons/daughters/nephews etc not today join in part because of the wokeness.

Trump’s Truth on Milley isn’t too far off.
Do you have proof that he secretly warned his Chinese counterpart that he would "warn him beforehand of any US military action against China"?

That's not what he told the Senate Armed Services Committee ...
"I know, I am certain, that President Trump did not intend to attack the Chinese and it was my directed responsibility to convey presidential orders and intent," Milley told the Senate Armed Services Committee. "My task at that time was to de-escalate. My message again was consistent: Stay calm, steady, and de-escalate. We are not going to attack you."
I'm guessing this is trump and his MAGAt yahoos making up fake news to try and support their bullsh!t.

Christie and Hutchinson's Truth on trump isn't far off either. :coffee:
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UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 12:55 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 12:32 pm
So the 2 biggest Trump haters on the right don’t like what Trump said about Milley. So what.

Milley:
-Committed borderline treason when while Trump was still POTUS Milley secretly contacted his Chinese counterpart that he would warn him beforehand of any US military action against China.
-Said “the Afghan Security Forces have the capacity to sufficiently fight and defend their country.” They lasted all of about a week :dunce:
-Publicly defended the disasterous Afghan withdrawl. :dunce:
-Defended closing the Bagram base in favor of Kabul.:dunce:
-Said they wouldn’t leave any American citizens behind in Afghanistan. They ended up leaving behind thousands.
-Was responsible for leaving behind tens billions of weaponry in Afghanistan for the Taliban :dunce:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrze ... 4611ba41db
-Defended a missile strike from a drone outside Kabul that took out am innocent family, calling it a ‘righteous’ strike.
-Refused to resign after the Afghanistan debacle, despite calls on both aides of the aisle to do so.
-Implemented a series of ultra woke policies.
-Has overseen 3 straight ywars of the military falling short of its recruiting and retention goals. Several factors, but one os the wokeness implemented under Milley. The majority of the military is legacy (had family who served). Vets are a little to the right of the population as a whole. Are polls that show many who served in prior decades have told their sons/daughters/nephews etc not today join in part because of the wokeness.

Trump’s Truth on Milley isn’t too far off.
Do you have proof that he secretly warned his Chinese counterpart that he would "warn him beforehand of any US military action against China"?

That's not what he told the Senate Armed Services Committee ...
"I know, I am certain, that President Trump did not intend to attack the Chinese and it was my directed responsibility to convey presidential orders and intent," Milley told the Senate Armed Services Committee. "My task at that time was to de-escalate. My message again was consistent: Stay calm, steady, and de-escalate. We are not going to attack you."
I'm guessing this is trump and his MAGAt yahoos making up fake news to try and support their bullsh!t.

Christie and Hutchinson's Truth on trump isn't far off either. :coffee:
You’d be guessing wrong. Try Bob Woodward and Robert Costa, no fans of Trump. Or are you going to accuse them of being ‘MAGAt yahoos’ also?
https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021/0 ... us-attack/
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 1:40 pm
UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 12:55 pm
Do you have proof that he secretly warned his Chinese counterpart that he would "warn him beforehand of any US military action against China"?

That's not what he told the Senate Armed Services Committee ...

I'm guessing this is trump and his MAGAt yahoos making up fake news to try and support their bullsh!t.

Christie and Hutchinson's Truth on trump isn't far off either. :coffee:
You’d be guessing wrong. Try Bob Woodward and Robert Costa, no fans of Trump. Or are you going to accuse them of being ‘MAGAt yahoos’ also?
https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021/0 ... us-attack/
So I'm wrong that it's not just trump and his MAGAt yahoos making up fake news. Woodward could be correct or he could be wrong. At this point, we don't know who's version of those calls is accurate.

And I'm not wrong that Christie and Hutchinson's Truth on trump isn't far off either.
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UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 2:07 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 1:40 pm
You’d be guessing wrong. Try Bob Woodward and Robert Costa, no fans of Trump. Or are you going to accuse them of being ‘MAGAt yahoos’ also?
https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021/0 ... us-attack/
So I'm wrong. I've got TDS so bad I can't think straight and don't read anything.

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UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 2:07 pm

So SG is wrong. He has BDS so bad he can't think straight and doesn’t believe anything critical of trump, putin, russia, or any other enemies of America.

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UNI88 wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 8:58 pm
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Good catch.
No. This is incorrect, but I do like that Putin and Russia are separate enemies of America.
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UNI88 wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 8:58 pm

Good catch.
No. This is incorrect, but I do agree that trump, putin and russia are all enemies of America.
Not as incorrect as your FYP.


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UNI88 wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 10:49 pm
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No. This is incorrect, but I do agree that trump, putin and russia are all enemies of America.
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 12:32 pm
So the 2 biggest Trump haters on the right don’t like what Trump said about Milley. So what.

Milley:
-Committed borderline treason when while Trump was still POTUS Milley secretly contacted his Chinese counterpart that he would warn him beforehand of any US military action against China.
-Said “the Afghan Security Forces have the capacity to sufficiently fight and defend their country.” They lasted all of about a week :dunce:
-Publicly defended the disasterous Afghan withdrawl. :dunce:
-Defended closing the Bagram base in favor of Kabul.:dunce:
-Said they wouldn’t leave any American citizens behind in Afghanistan. They ended up leaving behind thousands.
-Was responsible for leaving behind tens billions of weaponry in Afghanistan for the Taliban :dunce:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrze ... 4611ba41db
-Defended a missile strike from a drone outside Kabul that took out am innocent family, calling it a ‘righteous’ strike.
-Refused to resign after the Afghanistan debacle, despite calls on both aides of the aisle to do so.
-Implemented a series of ultra woke policies.
-Has overseen 3 straight ywars of the military falling short of its recruiting and retention goals. Several factors, but one os the wokeness implemented under Milley. The majority of the military is legacy (had family who served). Vets are a little to the right of the population as a whole. Are polls that show many who served in prior decades have told their sons/daughters/nephews etc not today join in part because of the wokeness.

Trump’s Truth on Milley isn’t too far off.
No American should like what Trump said about Milley.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:42 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 10:49 pm I live in a houseboat and argue with cats
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That would make you a pussy cat.
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UNI88 wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 12:02 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:42 pm

FYP
That would make you a pussy cat.
:lol: Touche'
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 12:32 pm
So the 2 biggest Trump haters on the right don’t like what Trump said about Milley. So what.

Milley:
-Committed borderline treason when while Trump was still POTUS Milley secretly contacted his Chinese counterpart that he would warn him beforehand of any US military action against China.
-Said “the Afghan Security Forces have the capacity to sufficiently fight and defend their country.” They lasted all of about a week :dunce:
-Publicly defended the disasterous Afghan withdrawl. :dunce:
-Defended closing the Bagram base in favor of Kabul.:dunce:
-Said they wouldn’t leave any American citizens behind in Afghanistan. They ended up leaving behind thousands.
-Was responsible for leaving behind tens billions of weaponry in Afghanistan for the Taliban :dunce:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrze ... 4611ba41db
-Defended a missile strike from a drone outside Kabul that took out am innocent family, calling it a ‘righteous’ strike.
-Refused to resign after the Afghanistan debacle, despite calls on both aides of the aisle to do so.
-Implemented a series of ultra woke policies.
-Has overseen 3 straight ywars of the military falling short of its recruiting and retention goals. Several factors, but one os the wokeness implemented under Milley. The majority of the military is legacy (had family who served). Vets are a little to the right of the population as a whole. Are polls that show many who served in prior decades have told their sons/daughters/nephews etc not today join in part because of the wokeness.

Trump’s Truth on Milley isn’t too far off.
The biggest factor factor is that the military has its toughest time meeting recruitment and retention goals when the economy is good and the most ease in meeting those goals when the economy is not good.
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He replied: “Nobody has any idea where these people are coming from, and we know they come from prisons. We know they come from mental institutions and insane asylums. We know they’re terrorists. Nobody has ever seen anything like we’re witnessing right now. It is a very sad thing for our country. It’s poisoning the blood of our country. It’s so bad, and people are coming in with disease. People are coming in with every possible thing that you could have.”

At campaign rallies, Trump has repeated that leaders of unspecified South American countries were releasing patients from mental hospitals to send as migrants to the United States, but fact checkers have found no evidence for the claim.

Jonathan Greenblatt, the CEO of the Anti-Defamation League, called Trump’s comments racist and xenophobic. “Insinuating that immigrants are ‘poisoning the blood of our country’ echoes nativist talking points and has the potential to cause real danger and violence,’’ Greenblatt said in a statement. “We have seen this kind of toxic rhetoric inspire real-world violence before in places like Pittsburgh and El Paso. It should have no place in our politics, period.”
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kalm wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 6:21 am
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 12:32 pm
So the 2 biggest Trump haters on the right don’t like what Trump said about Milley. So what.

Milley:
-Committed borderline treason when while Trump was still POTUS Milley secretly contacted his Chinese counterpart that he would warn him beforehand of any US military action against China.
-Said “the Afghan Security Forces have the capacity to sufficiently fight and defend their country.” They lasted all of about a week :dunce:
-Publicly defended the disasterous Afghan withdrawl. :dunce:
-Defended closing the Bagram base in favor of Kabul.:dunce:
-Said they wouldn’t leave any American citizens behind in Afghanistan. They ended up leaving behind thousands.
-Was responsible for leaving behind tens billions of weaponry in Afghanistan for the Taliban :dunce:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrze ... 4611ba41db
-Defended a missile strike from a drone outside Kabul that took out am innocent family, calling it a ‘righteous’ strike.
-Refused to resign after the Afghanistan debacle, despite calls on both aides of the aisle to do so.
-Implemented a series of ultra woke policies.
-Has overseen 3 straight ywars of the military falling short of its recruiting and retention goals. Several factors, but one os the wokeness implemented under Milley. The majority of the military is legacy (had family who served). Vets are a little to the right of the population as a whole. Are polls that show many who served in prior decades have told their sons/daughters/nephews etc not today join in part because of the wokeness.

Trump’s Truth on Milley isn’t too far off.
No American should like what Trump said about Milley.
Milley would whup Trump's ass in short order
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houndawg wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 2:50 pm
kalm wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 6:21 am

No American should like what Trump said about Milley.
Milley would whup Trump's ass in short order
All 5’11” 280 lbs of him.
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kalm wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 3:37 pm
houndawg wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 2:50 pm

Milley would whup Trump's ass in short order
All 5’11” 280 lbs of him.
He might be 6' but anything more is in his elevator shoes. He could be down to 280, I've noticed his suit looks baggier than normal and what little muscle mass he had has to be atrophing in proportion to his age and Big Mac ingestion. Still, I'm 5'10" and 220 and I could hide in the shadow of his ass...
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Can someone decode this for me? I’m having trouble understanding what he’s going on about.

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Not a gaffe but an assessment of trump ...

Robert De Niro Writes An Oscar-Worthy Manifesto About Donald Trump’s ‘Evil’
“I’ve spent a lot of time studying bad men. I’ve examined their characteristics, their mannerisms, the utter banality of their cruelty,” De Niro said in the statement. “Yet there’s something different about Donald Trump. When I look at him, I don’t see a bad man. Truly. I see an evil one.”

De Niro continued, “He’s a wannabe tough guy with no morals or ethics. No sense of right or wrong. No regard for anyone but himself — not the people he was supposed to lead and protect.”
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“Democracy won’t survive the return of a wannabe dictator,” De Niro said. “And it won’t overcome evil if we are divided.”

He wrote that the solution to bridging the gap is reaching out to Trump supporters.

“They’re not stupid, and we must not condemn them for making a stupid choice,” he said. “Our future doesn’t just depend on us. It depends on them.”
- No morals or ethics
- No sense of right or wrong
- No regard for anyone but himself

Check, check, check. Spot-on assessment.
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 10:26 am Not a gaffe but an assessment of trump ...

Robert De Niro Writes An Oscar-Worthy Manifesto About Donald Trump’s ‘Evil’
“I’ve spent a lot of time studying bad men. I’ve examined their characteristics, their mannerisms, the utter banality of their cruelty,” De Niro said in the statement. “Yet there’s something different about Donald Trump. When I look at him, I don’t see a bad man. Truly. I see an evil one.”

De Niro continued, “He’s a wannabe tough guy with no morals or ethics. No sense of right or wrong. No regard for anyone but himself — not the people he was supposed to lead and protect.”
...
“Democracy won’t survive the return of a wannabe dictator,” De Niro said. “And it won’t overcome evil if we are divided.”

He wrote that the solution to bridging the gap is reaching out to Trump supporters.

“They’re not stupid, and we must not condemn them for making a stupid choice,” he said. “Our future doesn’t just depend on us. It depends on them.”
- No morals or ethics
- No sense of right or wrong
- No regard for anyone but himself

Check, check, check. Spot-on assessment.
Eh, I'd argue with the no sense of right or wrong. I think he has a pretty decent idea that what he's doing is wrong. I don't think he's that divorced from reality.
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GannonFan wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 11:41 am
UNI88 wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 10:26 am Not a gaffe but an assessment of trump ...

Robert De Niro Writes An Oscar-Worthy Manifesto About Donald Trump’s ‘Evil’

- No morals or ethics
- No sense of right or wrong
- No regard for anyone but himself

Check, check, check. Spot-on assessment.
Eh, I'd argue with the no sense of right or wrong. I think he has a pretty decent idea that what he's doing is wrong. I don't think he's that divorced from reality.
IMO he has such a high opinion of himself that he thinks he can do no wrong. Therefore nothing he's done is wrong.
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Re: Donald Trump gaffe and verbal bungles watch

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UNI88 wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 11:58 am
GannonFan wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 11:41 am

Eh, I'd argue with the no sense of right or wrong. I think he has a pretty decent idea that what he's doing is wrong. I don't think he's that divorced from reality.
IMO he has such a high opinion of himself that he thinks he can do no wrong. Therefore nothing he's done is wrong.
Interesting question. Perhaps a sociopath vs. psychopath debate?
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