UNI brow
Tell me you know who George Reisman is and you know why he wrote that right..?
And that this is just you showing everybody that you can find an article on any perspective
he's the guy that wrote this doozy:
The Irrelevance of “Worker Need” and “Employer Greed” in the Determination of Wages
and my favorite:
"13 Illustrations of the Benevolence of Capitalism"
He was a huge fan of Glenn Beck back in the good ol days
and Beck routinely cited Georges work
Q: Name something that offends Republicans?
A: The actual teachings of Jesus
UNI brow
Tell me you know who George Reisman is and you know why he wrote that right..?
And that this is just you showing everybody that you can find an article on any perspective
he's the guy that wrote this doozy:
The Irrelevance of “Worker Need” and “Employer Greed” in the Determination of Wages
and my favorite:
"13 Illustrations of the Benevolence of Capitalism"
He was a huge fan of Glenn Beck back in the good ol days
and Beck routinely cited Georges work
If you can't refute his work, marginalize the author.
Care to compare the resume of George Reisman, PhD distinguished Professor Emeritus of Economics, to "Dr." (fake) Laurence (not Lawrence) Britt?
You know who else was a big fan of Reisman? F.A. Hayek
You wanna read another one of his "doozies"? (you obviously didn't read the others) CAPITALISM: A Treatise on Economics
Chizzang wrote:
UNI brow
Tell me you know who George Reisman is and you know why he wrote that right..?
And that this is just you showing everybody that you can find an article on any perspective
he's the guy that wrote this doozy:
The Irrelevance of “Worker Need” and “Employer Greed” in the Determination of Wages
and my favorite:
"13 Illustrations of the Benevolence of Capitalism"
He was a huge fan of Glenn Beck back in the good ol days
and Beck routinely cited Georges work
If you can't refute his work, marginalize the author.
Care to compare the resume of George Reisman, PhD distinguished Professor Emeritus of Economics, to "Dr." (fake) Laurence (not Lawrence) Britt?
You know who else was a big fan of Reisman? F.A. Hayek
You wanna read another one of his "doozies"? (you obviously didn't read the others) CAPITALISM: A Treatise on Economics
Chizz...
Hey...this fun! ‘88 gets to use the Mises Institute and I get to use Vox. Here’s Hitler in his own words...
Sounds like leftist socialism to me.
In fact, Hitler dismisses even the idea of challenging the status of capitalism, telling Strasser that his socialism is actually Marxism and making the argument that powerful businessmen were powerful because they were evolutionarily superior to their employees. Thus, Hitler argues, a “workers council” taking charge of a company would only get in the way.
“Our great heads of industry are not concerned with the accumulation of wealth and the good life, rather they are concerned with responsibility and power. They have acquired this right by natural selection: they are members of the higher race. But you would surround them with a council of incompetents, who have no notion of anything. No economic leader can accept that.”
Strasser then asks him directly what he would do with powerful steel and arms manufacturer Krupp, known today as ThyssenKrupp. Would Hitler permit the company to stay as big and powerful as it was in 1930?
“Of course. Do you think I’m stupid enough to destroy the economy? The state will only intervene if people do not act in the interest of the nation. There is no need for dispossession or participation in all the decisions. The state will intervene strongly when it must, pushed by superior motives, without regards to particular interests.”
In this debate, Hitler isn’t making the case for socialism, much to Strasser’s dismay. He is making the case for fascism — in his view, not just an ideal system to organize government, but the only real option. “A system that rests on anything other than authority downwards and responsibility upwards cannot really make decisions,” he tells Strasser.
“Fascism offers us a model that we can absolutely replicate! As it is in the case of Fascism, the entrepreneurs and the workers of our National Socialist state sit side by side, equal in rights, the state strongly intervenes in the case of conflict to impose its decision and end economic disputes that put the life of the nation in danger.
Chizzang wrote:
UNI brow
Tell me you know who George Reisman is and you know why he wrote that right..?
And that this is just you showing everybody that you can find an article on any perspective
he's the guy that wrote this doozy:
The Irrelevance of “Worker Need” and “Employer Greed” in the Determination of Wages
and my favorite:
"13 Illustrations of the Benevolence of Capitalism"
He was a huge fan of Glenn Beck back in the good ol days
and Beck routinely cited Georges work
If you can't refute his work, marginalize the author.
Care to compare the resume of George Reisman, PhD distinguished Professor Emeritus of Economics, to "Dr." (fake) Laurence (not Lawrence) Britt?
You know who else was a big fan of Reisman? F.A. Hayek
You wanna read another one of his "doozies"? (you obviously didn't read the others) CAPITALISM: A Treatise on Economics
Chizz...
Baldy
I'm still waiting for you to refute Britts historical study / it's just a study of trends
While Reismans is an opinion piece written for Glenn Beck
Hopefully you can smell the difference
Bald....
Q: Name something that offends Republicans?
A: The actual teachings of Jesus
UNI brow
Tell me you know who George Reisman is and you know why he wrote that right..?
And that this is just you showing everybody that you can find an article on any perspective
he's the guy that wrote this doozy:
The Irrelevance of “Worker Need” and “Employer Greed” in the Determination of Wages
and my favorite:
"13 Illustrations of the Benevolence of Capitalism"
He was a huge fan of Glenn Beck back in the good ol days
and Beck routinely cited Georges work
Did I strike a nerve Chizzy? Was it this or my response to IT zinging you on the Donald Trump/Elon Musk comparison?
UNI brow ... Guess I deserve that since I frequently change usernames.
I don't know what else the guy has written or how whacko it might be. I do know that he makes some valid points comparing national socialism to socialism. Rather than arguing those points, you try to dismiss the entire concept by as Baldy says "marginalizing the author." Do I think fascism is socialism? No, but there are some commonalities. I've been saying for a long time that the ideological spectrum is not a straight line with fascism on the right and communism on the left but a circle with fascism and communism right next to each other.
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Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm
Chizzang wrote:
UNI brow
Tell me you know who George Reisman is and you know why he wrote that right..?
And that this is just you showing everybody that you can find an article on any perspective
he's the guy that wrote this doozy:
The Irrelevance of “Worker Need” and “Employer Greed” in the Determination of Wages
and my favorite:
"13 Illustrations of the Benevolence of Capitalism"
He was a huge fan of Glenn Beck back in the good ol days
and Beck routinely cited Georges work
Did I strike a nerve Chizzy? Was it this or my response to IT zinging you on the Donald Trump/Elon Musk comparison?
UNI brow ... Guess I deserve that since I frequently change usernames.
I don't know what else the guy has written or how whacko it might be. I do no that he makes some valid points comparing national socialism to socialism. Rather than arguing those points, you try to dismiss the entire concept by as Baldy says "marginalizing the author." Do I think fascism is socialism? No, but there are some commonalities. I've been saying for a long time that the ideological spectrum is not a straight line with fascism on the right and communism on the left but a circle with fascism and communism right next to each other.
I thought you were just f*cking with me... but please note Baldy took it to the bank
Q: Name something that offends Republicans?
A: The actual teachings of Jesus
UNI88 wrote:
Did I strike a nerve Chizzy? Was it this or my response to IT zinging you on the Donald Trump/Elon Musk comparison?
UNI brow ... Guess I deserve that since I frequently change usernames.
I don't know what else the guy has written or how whacko it might be. I do no that he makes some valid points comparing national socialism to socialism. Rather than arguing those points, you try to dismiss the entire concept by as Baldy says "marginalizing the author." Do I think fascism is socialism? No, but there are some commonalities. I've been saying for a long time that the ideological spectrum is not a straight line with fascism on the right and communism on the left but a circle with fascism and communism right next to each other.
I thought you were just f*cking with me... but please note Baldy took it to the bank
and Kalm, you can quote Vox all you want.
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm
UNI88 wrote:
Did I strike a nerve Chizzy? Was it this or my response to IT zinging you on the Donald Trump/Elon Musk comparison?
UNI brow ... Guess I deserve that since I frequently change usernames.
I don't know what else the guy has written or how whacko it might be. I do no that he makes some valid points comparing national socialism to socialism. Rather than arguing those points, you try to dismiss the entire concept by as Baldy says "marginalizing the author." Do I think fascism is socialism? No, but there are some commonalities. I've been saying for a long time that the ideological spectrum is not a straight line with fascism on the right and communism on the left but a circle with fascism and communism right next to each other.
I thought you were just f*cking with me... but please note Baldy took it to the bank
I just simply stated that those 14 points could be said of any autocratic regime...Nazi or Marxist.
Chizzang wrote:
I thought you were just f*cking with me... but please note Baldy took it to the bank
I just simply stated that those 14 points could be said of any autocratic regime...Nazi or Marxist.
You didn't disagree.
Perhaps in practice but not by definition or in theory. Fascism was directly tied to corporatism and the OG fascists HATED marxism. It was a rejection of it. The modern use of the word has been co-opted by the right to refer to anything autocratic. Fascism was historically far more specific.
Baldy wrote:
I just simply stated that those 14 points could be said of any autocratic regime...Nazi or Marxist.
You didn't disagree.
Perhaps in practice but not by definition or in theory. Fascism was directly tied to corporatism and the OG fascists HATED marxism. It was a rejection of it. The modern use of the word has been co-opted by the right to refer to anything autocratic. Fascism was historically far more specific.
Coopted by the right? Maybe, but it's also been coopted by the alt-left to refer to anything they disagree with.
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Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm
kalm wrote:
Perhaps in practice but not by definition or in theory. Fascism was directly tied to corporatism and the OG fascists HATED marxism. It was a rejection of it. The modern use of the word has been co-opted by the right to refer to anything autocratic. Fascism was historically far more specific.
Coopted by the right? Maybe, but it's also been coopted by the alt-left to refer to anything they disagree with.
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That’s a totally fair point. Especially as they pulled the lever for Hillary.
kalm wrote:
Perhaps in practice but not by definition or in theory. Fascism was directly tied to corporatism and the OG fascists HATED marxism. It was a rejection of it. The modern use of the word has been co-opted by the right to refer to anything autocratic. Fascism was historically far more specific.
Coopted by the right? Maybe, but it's also been coopted by the alt-left to refer to anything they disagree with.
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I guess Salon is now a member of the alt-left since they now think Hallmark channel movies are fascist. The truth is that it's being adopted more and more into the lexicon of the "mainstream" left.
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.
6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed
to the government's policies or actions.
9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
Q: Name something that offends Republicans?
A: The actual teachings of Jesus
and Kalm, you can quote Vox all you want.
Especially as they pulled the lever for Hillary.
