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JohnStOnge wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:How can you all of a sudden give a **** who attacks McCain?
I gave a shit about him attacking McCain as soon as he did that thing where he insulted him for being "captured." Here we have this orange marshmallow who got a deferment during the Vietnam War because a Doctor wanting rent favor from his Daddy gave him what was almost certainly a false diagnosis of bone spurs insulting a guy who was flying fighter bomber missions into the teeth of heavy enemy defenses for getting captured.

To this day one of the most baffling things to me is how people in the military and/or with military experience could support him after that. It's even more baffling than the thing with White Evangelical Christians.
Okay, I'll give you a nod on the disparity of service, but Libs get no such benefit as they have been applauding draft dodgers for years and now finally care because of Trump.

As for your Evangelical comment, they don't give a shit whether you understand them. You don't participate but want to direct. Got it. No thanks, keep on walking.
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Who cares that hes a pussy who was stuoid enough to get caught. That credit ran out 50 years ago.[/quote]

Seriously? So he stayed locked onto his target when the tone told him he was being tracked by a missile and delivered his payload and that's being stupid enough to get caught? How many times have you flown a fighter bomber into enemy fire?

A pussy is somebody who runs around telling everybody he was a great athlete who could've played Major League baseball if he wanted to but at the same time had a Doctor say he had bone spurs so he couldn't serve in Vietnam.
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SeattleGriz wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
I gave a **** about him attacking McCain as soon as he did that thing where he insulted him for being "captured." Here we have this orange marshmallow who got a deferment during the Vietnam War because a Doctor wanting rent favor from his Daddy gave him what was almost certainly a false diagnosis of bone spurs insulting a guy who was flying fighter bomber missions into the teeth of heavy enemy defenses for getting captured.

To this day one of the most baffling things to me is how people in the military and/or with military experience could support him after that. It's even more baffling than the thing with White Evangelical Christians.
Okay, I'll give you a nod on the disparity of service, but Libs get no such benefit as they have been applauding draft dodgers for years and now finally care because of Trump.

As for your Evangelical comment, they don't give a **** whether you understand them. You don't participate but want to direct. Got it. No thanks, keep on walking.
They might not care if people recognize them as hypocrites. But White Evangelical Christians who support Trump are hypocrites. Every single one of them. The only White Evangelical Christians who are not hypocrites are those who have not followed that herd.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Okay, I'll give you a nod on the disparity of service, but Libs get no such benefit as they have been applauding draft dodgers for years and now finally care because of Trump.

As for your Evangelical comment, they don't give a **** whether you understand them. You don't participate but want to direct. Got it. No thanks, keep on walking.
They might not care if people recognize them as hypocrites. But White Evangelical Christians who support Trump are hypocrites. Every single one of them. The only White Evangelical Christians who are not hypocrites are those who have not followed that herd.
Please. Enlighten me on how they are hypocrites.
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SeattleGriz wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
They might not care if people recognize them as hypocrites. But White Evangelical Christians who support Trump are hypocrites. Every single one of them. The only White Evangelical Christians who are not hypocrites are those who have not followed that herd.
Please. Enlighten me on how they are hypocrites.
I don't need to enlighten you. You know it's true.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Please. Enlighten me on how they are hypocrites.
I don't need to enlighten you. You know it's true.
Weak! As stated previously. Christians don't really give a shit about your unsubstantiated and delusional beliefs on how they should carry themselves, nor who they support.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Please. Enlighten me on how they are hypocrites.
I don't need to enlighten you. You know it's true.

John,
Shining a light on the Evangelical / Trump relationship infuriates most of them
in future days it's going to be one of the great american political stories
like Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall or Teapot Dome

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SeattleGriz wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
I don't need to enlighten you. You know it's true.
Weak! As stated previously. Christians don't really give a shit about your unsubstantiated and delusional beliefs on how they should carry themselves, nor who they support.
That’s fine. Then they should stay out of politics and legislating.
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Chizzang wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
I don't need to enlighten you. You know it's true.

John,
Shining a light on the Evangelical / Trump relationship infuriates most of them
in future days it's going to be one of the great american political stories
like Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall or Teapot Dome

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Hell, I just want to know how they are hypocrites. Can't get anyone to put substance on it who hasn't already been whining about Evangelicals for years.

It's just more of the same from the complaint department.
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kalm wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Weak! As stated previously. Christians don't really give a shit about your unsubstantiated and delusional beliefs on how they should carry themselves, nor who they support.
That’s fine. Then they should stay out of politics and legislating.
You think our current elected officials care what you think?
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There have always been those who maintain he collaborated while captive. I've never heard of anybody else "stationed" with him saying that but it would seem to make him your kind of guy. :coffee:
Who cares that hes a pussy who was stuoid enough to get caught. That credit ran out 50 years ago.

He is corrupt, a thief, and exactly the kind of politician that needs to be executed for the way he fucked this country while in office.

Glad hes gone but he needed about 5 more years of cancer before he left.

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SeattleGriz wrote:
Chizzang wrote:

John,
Shining a light on the Evangelical / Trump relationship infuriates most of them
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Hell, I just want to know how they are hypocrites.
You're a crappy liar...
as much as you do it - you think you'd be better at it by now

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Chizzang wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Hell, I just want to know how they are hypocrites.
You're a crappy liar...
as much as you do it - you think you'd be better at it by now

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Seriously. I really don't pay attention to the statement. Much like not paying attention to toxic masculinity statements.

Outside of Trump being a poor example of what a Christian should be, what makes a Christian a hypocrite for supporting Trump?

How would supporting Hillary have been any less hypocritical?
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Chizzang wrote:
You're a crappy liar...
as much as you do it - you think you'd be better at it by now

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Seriously. I really don't pay attention to the statement. Much like not paying attention to toxic masculinity statements.

Outside of Trump being a poor example of what a Christian should be, what makes a Christian a hypocrite for supporting Trump?

How would supporting Hillary have been any less hypocritical?

at some point the act has to get old even for you
And this has nothing to do with Hilary Clinton
No matter how hard you try to add her to the conversation

two years ago it was about Hilary and not pulling the lever
The point is you willingly crawled in bed with a morally bankrupt adulterous borderline pedophile
just to name a few of the concerning aspects of his character

Even a lowlife Liberal like me didn't vote for Obama - when I found neither option suitable
Yet the higher morality of Christianity skipped right over that option
and was all in on the philandering adulterous conman

Here's a clue on why:
Because there is nothing intrinsically moral about Christianity or for that matter Christians
and the saddening way they gleefully cling to Trump and defend his debauchery just proves that outright

:coffee:

You had choices
You had morally ethical choices - but you chose otherwise
today you dare to pretend you had no choice when it was actually quite simple
and instead now you act the fool

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Chizzang wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Seriously. I really don't pay attention to the statement. Much like not paying attention to toxic masculinity statements.

Outside of Trump being a poor example of what a Christian should be, what makes a Christian a hypocrite for supporting Trump?

How would supporting Hillary have been any less hypocritical?

at some point the act has to get old even for you
And this has nothing to do with Hilary Clinton
No matter how hard you try to add her to the conversation

two years ago it was about Hilary and not pulling the lever
The point is you willingly crawled in bed with a morally bankrupt adulterous borderline pedophile
just to name a few of the concerning aspects of his character

Even a lowlife Liberal like me didn't vote for Obama - when I found neither option suitable
Yet the higher morality of Christianity skipped right over that option
and was all in on the philandering adulterous conman

Here's a clue on why:
Because there is nothing intrinsically moral about Christianity or for that matter Christians
and the saddening way they gleefully cling to Trump and defend his debauchery just proves that outright

:coffee:

You had choices
You had morally ethical choices - but you chose otherwise
today you dare to pretend you had no choice when it was actually quite simple
and instead now you act the fool

:tothehand:
I voted for Gary Johnson.

But I will still say I don't see an issue with Christians supporting Trump. Everyone knows who he was and is.
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SeattleGriz wrote:
Chizzang wrote:

at some point the act has to get old even for you
And this has nothing to do with Hilary Clinton
No matter how hard you try to add her to the conversation

two years ago it was about Hilary and not pulling the lever
The point is you willingly crawled in bed with a morally bankrupt adulterous borderline pedophile
just to name a few of the concerning aspects of his character

Even a lowlife Liberal like me didn't vote for Obama - when I found neither option suitable
Yet the higher morality of Christianity skipped right over that option
and was all in on the philandering adulterous conman

Here's a clue on why:
Because there is nothing intrinsically moral about Christianity or for that matter Christians
and the saddening way they gleefully cling to Trump and defend his debauchery just proves that outright

:coffee:

You had choices
You had morally ethical choices - but you chose otherwise
today you dare to pretend you had no choice when it was actually quite simple
and instead now you act the fool

:tothehand:
I voted for Gary Johnson.
You lie poorly...
and defend Trump far too vigorously for me to even begin to buy that

:ohno:

and you already said you had no choice
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Chizzang wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:I voted for Gary Johnson.
You lie poorly...
and defend Trump far too vigorously for me to even begin to buy that

:ohno:
Nope, I voted for dipshit, "Aleppo" Gary Johnson.
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SeattleGriz wrote:
Chizzang wrote: You lie poorly...
and defend Trump far too vigorously for me to even begin to buy that

:ohno:
Nope, I voted for dipshit, "Aleppo" Gary Johnson.
You come up with this after 2 years of saying you had no choice

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Chizzang wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Nope, I voted for dipshit, "Aleppo" Gary Johnson.
You come up with this after 2 years of saying you had no choice

:ohno:
Where are you getting the no choice part?

I didn't like Hillary, thought Trump wasn't Presidential and voted for Johnson.

I voted for Johnson because I had hoped to push the Libertarian vote to a level that would help them with Federal funding.
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Chizzang wrote:
You come up with this after 2 years of saying you had no choice

:ohno:
Where are you getting the no choice part?

I didn't like Hillary, thought Trump wasn't Presidential and voted for Johnson.

I voted for Johnson because I had hoped to push the Libertarian vote to a level that would help them with Federal funding.
You mention Hilary weekly
Defend Trump daily
and have never mentioned Johnson in two years
and yet - here we are

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Chizzang wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Where are you getting the no choice part?

I didn't like Hillary, thought Trump wasn't Presidential and voted for Johnson.

I voted for Johnson because I had hoped to push the Libertarian vote to a level that would help them with Federal funding.
You mention Hilary weekly
Defend Trump daily
and have never mentioned Johnson in two years
and yet - here we are

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Yes, here we are. Where that is, I have no idea. But I do know that not one single instance, outside of everything we already knew about who Trump was, and is, has been posted in this thread with regards to how Christians are hypocritical for supporting Trump.

I know you say Hillary doesn't belong, but she does. What would Christians be hypocritical of if they supported her? Once again, it's the anti-Christian club running at the mouth, but with the volume to 11 because Trump is President. You act like your schtik is new. :lol: We've heard this claim for years.

On an overall choice, Trump, while a poor Christian model, was the better choice than Hillary.

So please. Tell me specifically, what actions has Trump performed after being elected that would constitute Christians as hypocrites.
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SeattleGriz wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
You mention Hilary weekly
Defend Trump daily
and have never mentioned Johnson in two years
and yet - here we are

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Yes, here we are. Where that is, I have no idea. But I do know that not one single instance, outside of everything we already knew about who Trump was, and is, has been posted in this thread with regards to how Christians are hypocritical for supporting Trump.

I know you say Hillary doesn't belong, but she does. What would Christians be hypocritical of if they supported her? Once again, it's the anti-Christian club running at the mouth, but with the volume to 11 because Trump is President. You act like your schtik is new. :lol: We've heard this claim for years.

On an overall choice, Trump, while a poor Christian model, was the better choice than Hillary.

So please. Tell me specifically, what actions has Trump performed after being elected that would constitute Christians as hypocrites.
Dude...
all meaningless - you voted for Johnson (remember)

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