I never would have guessed you didn’t read it, judging by your reply.CID1990 wrote:TL/DRkalm wrote:
Capital C Communists, Democratic Socialsist, Social Democrats, Socialists, or Marxists?
Regardless, BDK was disingenuous with that post. There are several articles of the same ilk including this one from Matt Welch at Reason http://time.com/4121126/bernie-sanders- ... socialism/ which are kind enough to admit in the headline that the quotes are from decades ago rather than BDK's boogeyman tactics.
Has Bernie softened his views on economics or is he lying to get votes and if elected will push us off the marxist cliff? Debatable (and Welch does a good job as usual arguing the free market side) but at least it should be an honest debate that makes an attempt to avoid the pinko-commie dismissals.
http://time.com/4121126/bernie-sanders- ... socialism/
I just don't see a huge difference in wielding the anti-commie sword versus wielding the anti-feudalism sword. We're a mixed market economy and we're really just arguing degrees of economic regulation.
Tell me how government ownership of the means of production isn’t full bore Communism again.. i forget
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It helps that you are a predictable automatonkalm wrote:I never would have guessed you didn’t read it, judging by your reply.CID1990 wrote:
TL/DR
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Surrender accepted.CID1990 wrote:It helps that you are a predictable automatonkalm wrote:
I never would have guessed you didn’t read it, judging by your reply.
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I do not want Biden to be President......but if he is the Trojan horse that we need to defeat Trump......so be it.
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I've been seeing video of Beto in a UNI hat today with the Panther logo on it. Haven't been able to find a pic on line yet. But he's been doing it.
EDIT: I think he's got it on in this picture but you can't see it real well:
EDIT: I think he's got it on in this picture but you can't see it real well:
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Yes he was in Cedar Falls campaigning for a local D running in a special election for state senate. He probably doesn't even know what UNI stands for.JohnStOnge wrote:I've been seeing video of Beto in a UNI hat today with the Panther logo on it. Haven't been able to find a pic on line yet. But he's been doing it.
EDIT: I think he's got it on in this picture but you can't see it real well:
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More entertainment.89Hen wrote:There is no way Joe could make it through the campaign without saying at least a dozen sexist and racist things.Ivytalk wrote:Biden/Harris. Book it.
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A fake Mexican to go with a fake Indian. I like it.Pwns wrote:Beto's first crime as a white male candidate: His wife says nothing in his ad.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/15/us/p ... e-amy.html
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Best JSO post evah...HI54UNI wrote:This post is so TDS it deserves some bikinis to counteractJohnStOnge wrote:I think Sanders probably does believe in those things he said 50 years ago. The problem for conservatives who disagree with those outlooks is that they are in the process of discrediting their point of view by virtue of supporting Donald Trump. Conservative support of Donald Trump makes ultimate victory by those who hold Sanders' points of view more likely.
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Nice pictures. But again: If there is derangement associated with Trump it is not on the part of people like me. It is on the part of people who support him.SDHornet wrote:Best JSO post evah...HI54UNI wrote:
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Paging any Hillary strategists? We need cleanup on aisle 4.... this will take someone who has Spin Level 100 unlocked
Stick a fork in Beto, he's done
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/19/politics ... index.html
Stick a fork in Beto, he's done
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That was then. He’s evolved.CID1990 wrote:Paging any Hillary strategists? We need cleanup on aisle 4.... this will take someone who has Spin Level 100 unlocked
Stick a fork in Beto, he's done
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I bet that Trump would!HI54UNI wrote:Yes he was in Cedar Falls campaigning for a local D running in a special election for state senate. He probably doesn't even know what UNI stands for.JohnStOnge wrote:I've been seeing video of Beto in a UNI hat today with the Panther logo on it. Haven't been able to find a pic on line yet. But he's been doing it.
EDIT: I think he's got it on in this picture but you can't see it real well:
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Yes....much like Trump did!Ivytalk wrote:That was then. He’s evolved.CID1990 wrote:Paging any Hillary strategists? We need cleanup on aisle 4.... this will take someone who has Spin Level 100 unlocked
Stick a fork in Beto, he's done
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/19/politics ... index.html
Beto is the Dem version of Trump.....which means that he will be very popular and in it until the end. I think that he has zero chance of beating Trump but he plays a role in all off this until a certain point.
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Be careful. Many people voted against HRC rather than for Trump in 2016.AZGrizFan wrote:That vote means literally nothing, and if you knew anything about Texas politics you’d know that. There were literally hundreds of thousands of votes cast AGAINST Cruz rather than for O’Rourke.JohnStOnge wrote:I found a good indication. Here are the Texas exit polling results for O'Rourke vs. C r u z:
https://www.cnn.com/election/2018/exit- ... xas/senate
The 18 through 24 age group is pretty much going to be Generation Z. Most 18 year olds would've been borne in 2000 and 24 year olds would've been borne in 1994. Recall that Generation Z consists of people borne from the mid 1990s through the early 2000s.
The estimate is that 18 through 24 year olds in Texas voted for the Democrat, O'Rourke over the Republican, C r u z, by 68% to 32%.
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CNN has already made it about his race. He has no chance. The democrats are making it about race and not the quality of the candidate.Pwns wrote:Beto's first crime as a white male candidate: His wife says nothing in his ad.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/15/us/p ... e-amy.html
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If it's about the quality of the candidate then Beto is DOA.Ibanez wrote:CNN has already made it about his race. He has no chance. The democrats are making it about race and not the quality of the candidate.Pwns wrote:Beto's first crime as a white male candidate: His wife says nothing in his ad.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/15/us/p ... e-amy.html
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And that's fine. But the Democrat Party, right out the gate, has made it about the color of skin and not the content of his character.mainejeff wrote:If it's about the quality of the candidate then Beto is DOA.Ibanez wrote: CNN has already made it about his race. He has no chance. The democrats are making it about race and not the quality of the candidate.
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They did it again this morning with Gov. Delaney (D).
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It will all come out in the wash. What did Republicans do about Trump back in those early days of his announcement?Ibanez wrote:And that's fine. But the Democrat Party, right out the gate, has made it about the color of skin and not the content of his character.mainejeff wrote:
If it's about the quality of the candidate then Beto is DOA.
They did it again this morning with Gov. Delaney (D).
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This is one of those rare occasions that we agree, he is a dolt.mainejeff wrote:If it's about the quality of the candidate then Beto is DOA.Ibanez wrote: CNN has already made it about his race. He has no chance. The democrats are making it about race and not the quality of the candidate.
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Beto is just a fake Mexican that can skateboard...that is literally all he has going for him...not a joke either.mainejeff wrote:Yes....much like Trump did!Ivytalk wrote: That was then. He’s evolved.
Beto is the Dem version of Trump.....which means that he will be very popular and in it until the end. I think that he has zero chance of beating Trump but he plays a role in all off this until a certain point.
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The same thing talking heads and dems did....wrote him off as not a serious threat.mainejeff wrote:It will all come out in the wash. What did Republicans do about Trump back in those early days of his announcement?Ibanez wrote: And that's fine. But the Democrat Party, right out the gate, has made it about the color of skin and not the content of his character.
They did it again this morning with Gov. Delaney (D).
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But Nate Silver said Trump had no chance...AZGrizFan wrote:The same thing talking heads and dems did....wrote him off as not a serious threat.mainejeff wrote:
It will all come out in the wash. What did Republicans do about Trump back in those early days of his announcement?
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Same as they did with Bernie.AZGrizFan wrote:The same thing talking heads and dems did....wrote him off as not a serious threat.mainejeff wrote:
It will all come out in the wash. What did Republicans do about Trump back in those early days of his announcement?
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