This. Trump has no leverage so the Donks will not negotiate on anything substantial. The threat of a shutdown was better leverage than the actual shutdown. It's a hollow threat now that the Donks know the Conks will cave.SDHornet wrote:My thoughts on the Trump cave:
Called it on the conk senators being the first to cave.
Anyone thinking the donks will offer anything substantial in the next 3 weeks is delusional.
That said, no way Trump has another shutdown. My money is him going the "Emergency Act" route. donks will judge shop to get the wall stopped but some of it will get built while it takes its time going through the courts.
Good news is the "new NAFTA" trade deals will now get passed as that was being held up due to the shutdown.
What was the final tally on the duration? Did it hit the 6 week mark?
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I don't think you're capable of getting your nose brown enough for that promotion (and that's a compliment).93henfan wrote:Civilian equivalent of military general. (loosely)houndawg wrote:What is SES?
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Reminded me of this one:
Reminded me of this one:
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I watched the Jeanine Pirro show last night. It was something else. She started off with her take; which was that Donald Trump did what he did out of concern for Federal employees suffering. She even said something to the effect of real leaders doing what's right instead of sticking their finger in the wind.
Well, we all know what really happened. Trump did what he did because he was losing the PR battle and also because a Republican Senators were really starting to grouse. Sticking a finger into the wind is exactly what he did.
Well, we all know what really happened. Trump did what he did because he was losing the PR battle and also because a Republican Senators were really starting to grouse. Sticking a finger into the wind is exactly what he did.
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Re: How Long Will The Shutdown Last? (Dec 2018)
And that's why nobody took Mick Mulvaney's comments seriously today when he said that Trump wouldn't hesitate to shut down the government again in 19 days.JohnStOnge wrote:I watched the Jeanine Pirro show last night. It was something else. She started off with her take; which was that Donald Trump did what he did out of concern for Federal employees suffering. She even said something to the effect of real leaders doing what's right instead of sticking their finger in the wind.
Well, we all know what really happened. Trump did what he did because he was losing the PR battle and also because a Republican Senators were really starting to grouse. Sticking a finger into the wind is exactly what he did.
No, he won't. He saw what it did to his poll numbers.
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If not it was on a tehnicality. There is still a strong anti-houndawg faction here constantly working against the trut.....a vast right-wing conspiracy...SDHornet wrote:My thoughts on the Trump cave:
Called it on the conk senators being the first to cave.
Anyone thinking the donks will offer anything substantial in the next 3 weeks is delusional.
That said, no way Trump has another shutdown. My money is him going the "Emergency Act" route. donks will judge shop to get the wall stopped but some of it will get built while it takes its time going through the courts.
Good news is the "new NAFTA" trade deals will now get passed as that was being held up due to the shutdown.
What was the final tally on the duration? Did it hit the 6 week mark?
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Let nothing but the party line ever pass your lips. Note who asks about your real opinion - keep them close and don't trust them for a second.93henfan wrote:Civilian equivalent of military general. (loosely)houndawg wrote:What is SES?
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If he even thinks about pulling this shit again - zoom - right back in the purse goes his scrotum..
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Potholes still there but at least the sawhorses that block the lane closure have been picked up. GW Parkway also has some major craters. Almost lost a wheel last week near CIA.CID1990 wrote:No sh1t!89Hen wrote:The potholes on Clara Barton Parkway had better be filled by Monday morning.
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Talk about fake news and alternative facts. I'm pretty sure it was the LACK of POTUS' leadership and his pettiness that held the government hostage for weeks.
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It was also the donks refusal to compromise. It takes 2 to tango.Ibanez wrote:
Talk about fake news and alternative facts. I'm pretty sure it was the LACK of POTUS' leadership and his pettiness that held the government hostage for weeks.
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It's a party Twitter account. Show me the political party that tweets damning stuff about a President, in office, from their own party, and I'll be shocked. Just doesn't happen.Ibanez wrote:
Talk about fake news and alternative facts. I'm pretty sure it was the LACK of POTUS' leadership and his pettiness that held the government hostage for weeks.
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BDKJMU wrote:It was also the donks refusal to compromise. It takes 2 to tango.Ibanez wrote:
Talk about fake news and alternative facts. I'm pretty sure it was the LACK of POTUS' leadership and his pettiness that held the government hostage for weeks.
Unnecessary bullshit; 15 yards, loss of down
They had a compromise that everybody agreed to except Ann Coulter.
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He's still holding out hope he'll get your sloppy seconds...houndawg wrote:BDKJMU wrote: It was also the donks refusal to compromise. It takes 2 to tango.
Unnecessary bullshit; 15 yards, loss of down
They had a compromise that everybody agreed to except Ann Coulter.
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That word “everybody” doesnt mean what you think it meanshoundawg wrote:BDKJMU wrote: It was also the donks refusal to compromise. It takes 2 to tango.
Unnecessary bullshit; 15 yards, loss of down
They had a compromise that everybody agreed to except Ann Coulter.
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Oh c'mon BDK. The Democrat position holding that they were not going to negotiate as long as Trump was using an extortion tactic was totally reasonable. Now that the hostages have been released we'll see if they are willing to compromise on some things.BDKJMU wrote:It was also the donks refusal to compromise. It takes 2 to tango.Ibanez wrote:
Talk about fake news and alternative facts. I'm pretty sure it was the LACK of POTUS' leadership and his pettiness that held the government hostage for weeks.
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"No wall, no discussion"JohnStOnge wrote:Oh c'mon BDK. The Democrat position holding that they were not going to negotiate as long as Trump was using an extortion tactic was totally reasonable. Now that the hostages have been released we'll see if they are willing to compromise on some things.BDKJMU wrote: It was also the donks refusal to compromise. It takes 2 to tango.
That doesn't sound like a willingness to negotiate, JSO
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It's negotiating from a position of strength after your opponent shat his pants the last time.
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JohnStOnge wrote:Oh c'mon BDK. The Democrat position holding that they were not going to negotiate as long as Trump was using an extortion tactic was totally reasonable. Now that the hostages have been released we'll see if they are willing to compromise on some things.BDKJMU wrote: It was also the donks refusal to compromise. It takes 2 to tango.
Short answer they will not. Reason: lose the illegal vote.
What the GOP needs to do is run a huge ad campaign with tapes of Dim leaders supporting wall.
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Re: How Long Will The Shutdown Last? (Dec 2018)
And what the Dems need to do is run 24/7 Coulter, Hannity and Limbaugh highlights.....with the words THEY RUN THIS COUNTRY.....while showing Trump golfing and McConnell with that dumbass turtle stare off into space.css75 wrote:JohnStOnge wrote:
Oh c'mon BDK. The Democrat position holding that they were not going to negotiate as long as Trump was using an extortion tactic was totally reasonable. Now that the hostages have been released we'll see if they are willing to compromise on some things.
Short answer they will not. Reason: lose the illegal vote.
What the GOP needs to do is run a huge ad campaign with tapes of Dim leaders supporting wall.
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Sshhh...Orange Man Bad!!!CID1990 wrote:"No wall, no discussion"JohnStOnge wrote:
Oh c'mon BDK. The Democrat position holding that they were not going to negotiate as long as Trump was using an extortion tactic was totally reasonable. Now that the hostages have been released we'll see if they are willing to compromise on some things.
That doesn't sound like a willingness to negotiate, JSO
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Missing the point, as usual.Skjellyfetti wrote:It's negotiating from a position of strength after your opponent shat his pants the last time.
"No wall, no discussion."
That means, "no negotiation"
Surely even someone with his knickers in a constant wad over semantics should get that.
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Donks can fuck up a wet dream..they’ll fuck this up too. Promised a negotiation, then won’t negotiate.
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