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Bullshit asymmetry principle

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I believe I have discovered the new standard by which we function politically

Bullshit asymmetry principle
the bullshit asymmetry principle (also known as Brandolini's law[13][14]) states that:
The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.
Brandolini's law emphasizes the difficulty of debunking bullshit.[19] In contrast, the faster propagation of bullshit is an old proverb: "a lie is halfway round the world before the truth has got its boots on".[20]

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Re: Bullshit asymmetry principle

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Chizzang wrote:I believe I have discovered the new standard by which we function politically

Bullshit asymmetry principle
the bullshit asymmetry principle (also known as Brandolini's law[13][14]) states that:
The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.
Brandolini's law emphasizes the difficulty of debunking bullshit.[19] In contrast, the faster propagation of bullshit is an old proverb: "a lie is halfway round the world before the truth has got its boots on".[20]

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Chizzang wrote:I believe I have discovered the new standard by which we function politically

Bullshit asymmetry principle
the bullshit asymmetry principle (also known as Brandolini's law[13][14]) states that:
The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.
Brandolini's law emphasizes the difficulty of debunking bullshit.[19] In contrast, the faster propagation of bullshit is an old proverb: "a lie is halfway round the world before the truth has got its boots on".[20]

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There are exceptions to the BAP.

Case in point, a conservative friend just posted a meme on how we're a republic and NOT a democracy.

I replied with: "So we’re not a democracy? Huh. Sure about that?"

His response: "Positive, we are a republic" and then some mumbo jumbo about the pledge of allegiance.

My reply: That's not what I asked. China is also a republic."

Then a friend of his told me I was wrong and linked to an article comparing democracies and republics where it clearly states what a pure democracy is (which we're obviously not) and how the US is a democratic republic (I added constitutionally limited, representative... to throw them a bone.)

It took me far less time to make those FB replies than I've spent here replying to your post, Chizzy....

But that might also support your theory.
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kalm wrote:There are exceptions to the BAP.

Case in point, a conservative friend just posted a meme on how we're a republic and NOT a democracy.

I replied with: "So we’re not a democracy? Huh. Sure about that?"

His response: "Positive, we are a republic" and then some mumbo jumbo about the pledge of allegiance.

My reply: That's not what I asked. China is also a republic."

Then a friend of his told me I was wrong and linked to an article comparing democracies and republics where it clearly states what a pure democracy is (which we're obviously not) and how the US is a democratic republic (I added constitutionally limited, representative... to throw them a bone.)

It took me far less time to make those FB replies than I've spent here replying to your post, Chizzy....

But that might also support your theory.


We're both - a Democratic Republic. Your friend is dumb.
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Ibanez wrote:
kalm wrote:There are exceptions to the BAP.

Case in point, a conservative friend just posted a meme on how we're a republic and NOT a democracy.

I replied with: "So we’re not a democracy? Huh. Sure about that?"

His response: "Positive, we are a republic" and then some mumbo jumbo about the pledge of allegiance.

My reply: That's not what I asked. China is also a republic."

Then a friend of his told me I was wrong and linked to an article comparing democracies and republics where it clearly states what a pure democracy is (which we're obviously not) and how the US is a democratic republic (I added constitutionally limited, representative... to throw them a bone.)

It took me far less time to make those FB replies than I've spent here replying to your post, Chizzy....

But that might also support your theory.


We're both - a Democratic Republic. Your friend is dumb.
That was my point but democracy hatred is a new pastime for certain conks.
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Chizzang wrote:I believe I have discovered the new standard by which we function politically

Bullshit asymmetry principle
the bullshit asymmetry principle (also known as Brandolini's law[13][14]) states that:
The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.
Brandolini's law emphasizes the difficulty of debunking bullshit.[19] In contrast, the faster propagation of bullshit is an old proverb: "a lie is halfway round the world before the truth has got its boots on".[20]

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And there’s plenty of empirical evidence for it right here on CS.com! Somebody other than JSO should undertake a statistical study of it. Good on ya, Chizzang.
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Seems related to the gish gallop.
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Chizzang wrote:I believe I have discovered the new standard by which we function politically

Bullshit asymmetry principle
the bullshit asymmetry principle (also known as Brandolini's law[13][14]) states that:
The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.
Brandolini's law emphasizes the difficulty of debunking bullshit.[19] In contrast, the faster propagation of bullshit is an old proverb: "a lie is halfway round the world before the truth has got its boots on".[20]

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Exhibit A:

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Skjellyfetti wrote:Seems related to the gish gallop.
Yup. And use the Chewbacca defense as the kill shot.
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Ivytalk wrote:
Chizzang wrote:I believe I have discovered the new standard by which we function politically

Bullshit asymmetry principle
the bullshit asymmetry principle (also known as Brandolini's law[13][14]) states that:
The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.
Brandolini's law emphasizes the difficulty of debunking bullshit.[19] In contrast, the faster propagation of bullshit is an old proverb: "a lie is halfway round the world before the truth has got its boots on".[20]

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And there’s plenty of empirical evidence for it right here on CS.com! Somebody other than JSO should undertake a statistical study of it. Good on ya, Chizzang.
Exactly. The bastardization of my wonderful Intelligent Design threads is one example.
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SeattleGriz wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: And there’s plenty of empirical evidence for it right here on CS.com! Somebody other than JSO should undertake a statistical study of it. Good on ya, Chizzang.
Exactly. The bastardization of my wonderful Intelligent Design threads is one example.
Here here. I agree wholeheartedly.

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Silenoz wrote:Exhibit A:

Anti-vaxxers, who figured this out long ago
You got shit for proof.
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SeattleGriz wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Exactly. The bastardization of my wonderful Intelligent Design threads is one example.
Here here. I agree wholeheartedly.

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SeattleGriz wrote:
Silenoz wrote:Exhibit A:

Anti-vaxxers, who figured this out long ago
You got shit for proof.
Once again, you have it backwards my silly friend

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Silenoz wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:You got shit for proof.
Once again, you have it backwards my silly friend

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