Does Anyone Disagree With This?

[Gil Dobie]

Oldie but a goodie.

I think he's almost 100% right but the truth is, most people don't care enough or are too intellectually lazy and complacent to do anything about it. It's much easier to bitch about the other. As Carlin implies, it's almost like it's by design.

Warning to conservatives...this also sounds similar in many ways to Bernie Sanders.

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Old news, and Bernie is part of the Owner group, and was looking to be a more important chess piece in the owners group. JP Morgan, Henry Ford, Andrew Carnegie never had anything to do with political elections.

Even the USSR had it's owners group, after the people revolted.

[kalm]

Oldie but a goodie.

I think he's almost 100% right but the truth is, most people don't care enough or are too intellectually lazy and complacent to do anything about it. It's much easier to bitch about the other. As Carlin implies, it's almost like it's by design.

Warning to conservatives...this also sounds similar in many ways to Bernie Sanders.

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Old news, and Bernie is part of the Owner group, and was looking to be a more important chess piece in the owners group. JP Morgan, Henry Ford, Andrew Carnegie never had anything to do with political elections.

Even the USSR had it's owners group, after the people revolted.

I don't think you understand what "Owner group" means here, Gil.

[kalm]

There are a few things ^ in your response that require updating

1) Nowhere does Sanders try to create a system where everybody is the same
Mostly he wants to remove Tax loopholes and create a system with complete visibility
The uber wealthy have ZERO interest in visibility and removal of loopholes

2) America is NOT a Free Market Society
Our Federal Government picks the winners (See: Comcast & GM as just a few examples among thousands)
and in very much the same way our society picks the winners



You're almost in a state of complete denial

To your first point, what you stated is part of his proposed plan. But he also states free tuition for everybody, single payer health care, universal kindergarten/pre-school, and wealth inequality. To make that work somebody has to give up something in order to balance out the "inequality". Whether that is individuals or corporations.

For your second, I agree America is no longer a Free Market Society (and never really was) but it was founded with those ideals in mind. I do not believe we will ever reach a truly free market but I much prefer our current mixed one to one where if I can be potentially penalized if I earn more.

As for being almost in a state of complete denial, one usually has to pass though it to find the state of enlightenment.

RING THE FUCKING BELLS AND SWEET JESUS HALLELUJAH!!! A CONSERVATIVE FINALLY ADMITS WE HAVE A MIXED ECONOMY!!!!!!



(This Winterborn dude is a nice addition to the forum )

[Gil Dobie]

Old news, and Bernie is part of the Owner group, and was looking to be a more important chess piece in the owners group. JP Morgan, Henry Ford, Andrew Carnegie never had anything to do with political elections.

Even the USSR had it's owners group, after the people revolted.

I don't think you understand what "Owner group" means here, Gil.

Doesn't sound like we are on the same page, I was referring to what Carlin was talking about.

[kalm]

I don't think you understand what "Owner group" means here, Gil.

Doesn't sound like we are on the same page, I was referring to what Carlin was talking about.

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don't think you understand what "Owner group" means here, Gil.

[Gil Dobie]

Doesn't sound like we are on the same page, I was referring to what Carlin was talking about.

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don't think you understand what "Owner group" means here, Gil.

Typical progressive

I agree with what Carlin said, but you find something that we are not on the same page as, and try an make yourself look better.

You are saying Carnegie, Morgan etal, were not part of the owners group, and Sanders was not trying to improve his standing with the owners group?

[kalm]

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don't think you understand what "Owner group" means here, Gil.

Typical progressive

I agree with what Carlin said, but you find something that we are not on the same page as, and try an make yourself look better.

You are saying Carnegie, Morgan etal, were not part of the owners group, and Sanders was not trying to improve his standing with the owners group?

Huh? I said Carnegie etc were not a part of the owners group? No but yes to your Sanders question.

Your direction in this thread...

[Gil Dobie]

Typical progressive

I agree with what Carlin said, but you find something that we are not on the same page as, and try an make yourself look better.

You are saying Carnegie, Morgan etal, were not part of the owners group, and Sanders was not trying to improve his standing with the owners group?

Huh? I said Carnegie etc were not a part of the owners group? No but yes to your Sanders question.

Your direction in this thread...

What ever you say smarty.

[Winterborn]

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RING THE FUCKING BELLS AND SWEET JESUS HALLELUJAH!!! A CONSERVATIVE FINALLY ADMITS WE HAVE A MIXED ECONOMY!!!!!!



(This Winterborn dude is a nice addition to the forum )[/quote]

Give me time Kalm. You may end up taking back those words.