The Evolution Fail/Religion Hijack Thread

[SeattleGriz]

You mean there are more than one?

Which one intelligently designed us?


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Odin the All Father of course.

If He's the cool one then yes, I agree.

[kalm]

New Jersey?

No. Directional school.

You guys educated Trump. We had Tom Sneva and the dude who created Spawn...so suck it!

[CID1990]

Odin the All Father of course.

If He's the cool one then yes, I agree.

Why are you avoiding my very simple questions?

[SeattleGriz]

If He's the cool one then yes, I agree.

Why are you avoiding my very simple questions?

You're serious? Okay, no there is only one true God.

[Chizzang]

Why are you avoiding my very simple questions?

You're serious? Okay, no there is only one true God.

So you are a Mormon then..?
and that is a serious question - and if not - why not

[SeattleGriz]

You're serious? Okay, no there is only one true God.

So you are a Mormon then..?
and that is a serious question - and if not - why not

You must not be familiar with Mormonism.

If you were, then you would know your assumption makes no sense in light of my response.

[Chizzang]

So you are a Mormon then..?
and that is a serious question - and if not - why not

You must not be familiar with Mormonism.

If you were, then you would know your assumption makes no sense in light of my response.

I'm actually pretty familiar with it...
It's the last time humans came in direct contact with Jesus - so it updates the New Testament
please let me know if you are Mormon and if not why not...

[CID1990]

Why are you avoiding my very simple questions?

You're serious? Okay, no there is only one true God.

Which one?

And does that confer lesser god status on the others?

I'm trying to figure out which one intelligently designed us so I'll know who to complain to

[andy7171]

Next time a woman asks you if you are a god, YOU SAY YES!!!!


....movie?

[Ibanez]

Why are you avoiding my very simple questions?

You're serious? Okay, no there is only one true God.

Your answer suggests there are other gods.

[Ibanez]

Next time a woman asks you if you are a god, YOU SAY YES!!!!


....movie?

Ghostbusters.

[Ibanez]

You must not be familiar with Mormonism.

If you were, then you would know your assumption makes no sense in light of my response.

I'm actually pretty familiar with it...
It's the last time humans came in direct contact with Jesus - so it updates the New Testament
please let me know if you are Mormon and if not why not...

I'll admit, I don't know much about Mormons other than a few historical facts and they're great at genealogy. I thought only an angel manifested itself, are you saying Jebus also?

[andy7171]

Next time a woman asks you if you are a god, YOU SAY YES!!!!


....movie?

Ghostbusters.

Great scene!

[Ibanez]

Ghostbusters.

Great scene!

Indeed, Ray.


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[andy7171]

Great scene!

Indeed, Ray.


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That'd my girlfriend, yes. She's a dog.
I remember seeing it in OCMD my 8th grade summer.

[SeattleGriz]

You're serious? Okay, no there is only one true God.

Your answer suggests there are other gods.

Cids original question implied plural, he was asking which one.

[css75]

No, css is on vacation and had no internet. Here goes the reasoning everyone here loves: Paul was inspired b the Holy Spirit, thus inspired by God.

Will be without internet again for another day, will discuss vacation etc., when I get home.

Please enjoy your vacation... fear not - I'll be here harassing you

So... to your point:
The guys that flew the planes into the World Trade Centers... They too had divine inspiration
Seems like pretty shaky ground to build on

Apples and Oranges, they followed Mohammed which is a lot different than following Jesus. Jesus died for people’s salvation, Islam wants followers to kill for 70virgins.


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[css75]

What makes you so sure?

I mean,I get it. The God of the OT is vengeful, angry, demanding people to kill their sons and slice off the tips of their penises while the God of the NT is a bit more loving and only sacrificing his son.


If you want something more, Christianity and Islam are Abrahamic religions (as is Judaism) meaning they worship the God of Abraham, among other things.

Let me answer your question with a question.

Is the Mormon God the same as the Muslim or Christian God?

Living in Utah, I will answer this, they de y being Christian, yet try to pose as same to gain followers, they claim not to have anything to do with Islam, but have similar beliefs to them,
1. Jesus Is secondary in both
2. Both have polygamy in their doctrines
3. Both of their writings originated with 1 person, over 40 wrote Christian Bible.
4. Both have dietary laws and disdain alcohol.
5. Both believe in temple worship.
6. Both believe in having to live a holy life to make heaven.

There are more but just got home today and am tired.


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[CID1990]

Your answer suggests there are other gods.

Cids original question implied plural, he was asking which one.

Im still asking - which one is the true god?


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[css75]

Cids original question implied plural, he was asking which one.

Im still asking - which one is the true god?


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Jesus said I am the way, the truth and the life. No man can come to the father but by me.

In other passages he states their will be false gods. I believe LDS and Islam are in this category.

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[SeattleGriz]

Cids original question implied plural, he was asking which one.

Im still asking - which one is the true god?


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For me, Christian.

As to your "complaint department" question, you as well do not understand what ID is saying.

While there may be deeper motives, what they are selling is that we don't have a good explanation for big complex structures. Hence, it taking intelligence, because you can't mutate your way there to building multi step structures.

[CID1990]

Im still asking - which one is the true god?


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For me, Christian.

As to your "complaint department" question, you as well do not understand what ID is saying.

While there may be deeper motives, what they are selling is that we don't have a good explanation for big complex structures. Hence, it taking intelligence, because you can't mutate your way there to building multi step structures.

That is a re-wording of "we don't know, therefore, Jesus", verbatim

I think I have probably the greatest understanding of ID in the room, actually

But you are an admitted Christian - therefore you believe that Jesus was literally the offspring of this intelligent designer, who could have just waited a few years and sent us an email instead

[JoltinJoe]

No. Directional school.

You guys educated Trump. We had Tom Sneva and the dude who created Spawn...so suck it!

We didn't educate Trump. According to contemporaries, he never really paid attention in class and then transferred. No person truly educated by Jesuits would behave like Trump. It's a shame. If he had tried to learn from the Jesuits, he'd have a better sense of person and purpose.

[Bisonfanatical]

Trouble with the pope is this:

Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever. In other words he never changes.


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What the hell does any of that mean?

Why can'y you people just accept that 1000s of years ago, people had a lot of questions they couldn't answer so it was attributed to a God. Since then, we've learned that some things happen for a reason and wasn't b/c God did it. God doesn't create lightening storms or kill your 1st born at random. Why can't you understand that they were trying to understand something that was a mystery to them. As we learn, perhaps attribute to God-given logic the revelation that a disease from the putrid water killed Timmy and not God.

It's the like laws in Exodus and Leviticus. Those asinine laws might have been the best wisdom of the day but they are wrong and/or un reasonable by any modern standard. We don't need to burn people for wearing a poly/cotton blend. We certainly don't sanction slavery or killing people that work on the Sabbath.

I can understand your view in part, but for those of us who have never been a part of the laws of Exodus or Leviticus, which is most of us, not only do we not understand the reason behind them but we also do not understand the views of their God.

One might reason that you would believe in these things if you were a Israelite who possessed a personal relationship for a few thousand years with the God of their faith (Old Testament).

On the other hand, the Christians follow their god of the New Testament, which in itself has been a sort of on going study, an ever changing evolution of faith over the last 1700 years, which of course has a different view of the previous group.

Which of course brings us to the Islamists ,who have their god of their own faith, and they have their own requirements based on their own faith also.
It is hard to gather all these groups under one umbrella since they are not a homogenous group nor do they share the same belief

Then here are many other groups who have different gods, or no belief in any god, which of course is convenient and allows much freedom for constantly changing view points when you are not confined to the constraints of a written document.

Now, depending upon which group you identify with would make that statement you made, far more understandable. The sabbath for instance is only important to the practicing Israelites/Jews/Prostelytes, to the rest of the world, not so much.

Observing the Saturday Sabbath for instance has not changed to a practicing Israelite, but to the Sunday sabbath believing Christians, it is of no (or limited) consequence.


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[Bisonfanatical]

For the whole 500 years he has existed ... lol

Jesus remains a liberal, peace and neighbor loving, socialist hippie?

Cool! I like that guy!

Jesus was awesome; he's the most liberal and progressive person in human history.

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