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The funny thing about this whole debate is I don't think I ever said "city"
I said "Major Metropolitan" of which there will be about 20 in the US if you count 3 Mil and up
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Cool. Never considered somewhere like Boone, NC to be a city. Always thought of it as a decent-sized town. Much less far smaller places.

The "city of Boone" still sounds weird to me, but I'll allow it
It's really simple: City of Boone = COB. Corn comes on Cobs. Moonshine comes from Corn. Therefore Boone = Moonshine
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Cool. Never considered somewhere like Boone, NC to be a city. Always thought of it as a decent-sized town. Much less far smaller places.

The "city of Boone" still sounds weird to me, but I'll allow it
It's really simple: City of Boone = COB. Corn comes on Cobs. Moonshine comes from Corn. Therefore Boone = Moonshine
That’s some PhD level thinking there.


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Skjellyfetti wrote:Cool. Never considered somewhere like Boone, NC to be a city. Always thought of it as a decent-sized town. Much less far smaller places.

The "city of Boone" still sounds weird to me, but I'll allow it
The Town of Boone identifies itself as the Town of Boone. Works for me.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Cool. Never considered somewhere like Boone, NC to be a city. Always thought of it as a decent-sized town. Much less far smaller places.

The "city of Boone" still sounds weird to me, but I'll allow it
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dbackjon wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Cool. Never considered somewhere like Boone, NC to be a city. Always thought of it as a decent-sized town. Much less far smaller places.

The "city of Boone" still sounds weird to me, but I'll allow it
It's really simple: City of Boone = COB. Corn comes on Cobs. Moonshine comes from Corn. Therefore Boone = Moonshine
Actually that could go in a totally different direction considering the primary use for dried cobs


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CID1990 wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Cool. Never considered somewhere like Boone, NC to be a city. Always thought of it as a decent-sized town. Much less far smaller places.

The "city of Boone" still sounds weird to me, but I'll allow it
You must have been too busy blowing Rock to see the signs


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Ivytalk wrote:
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That’s an old Jim Nabors joke...

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Supreme Court says states can remove voters who skip elections, ignore warnings

WASHINGTON -- Failing to vote can lead to getting knocked off voter registration rolls, a deeply divided Supreme Court ruled Monday in a decision that likely will help Republicans and hurt Democrats.

The court's conservative majority ruled 5-4 that Ohio did not violate federal laws by purging voters who failed to vote for six years and did not confirm their residency -- considered the strictest such law in the nation.

The ruling protects similar laws in six states, including several electing governors or U.S. senators this fall. They are Pennsylvania, Georgia, Oregon, Oklahoma, West Virginia and Montana.

Civil rights groups had challenged Ohio's procedure for cleaning up voter registration rolls because it disproportionately affects minorities, the poor and people with disabilities. The Trump administration reversed the position taken by its predecessor and sided with Ohio......”
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Systems which don't allow same day registration shouldn't have a place in modern society.

If you're eligible to vote and want to vote, there should be zero hoops to do so.
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∞∞∞ wrote:Systems which don't allow same day registration shouldn't have a place in modern society.

If you're eligible to vote and want to vote, there should be zero hoops to do so.

As long as they can provide proof of citizenship, I agree.
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∞∞∞ wrote:Systems which don't allow same day registration shouldn't have a place in modern society.

If you're eligible to vote and want to vote, there should be zero hoops to do so.
Agreed. Provide proof of citizenship and go vote.

I honestly don't know why the left wants non citizens to have a say. I mean, I understand they selfish reasons. I guess those are the only ones.
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Only proof of citizenship I have is a passport. Most Americans don't have that.

Make proof of citizenship free and easy to obtain and Id be on board.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Only proof of citizenship I have is a passport. Most Americans don't have that.

Make proof of citizenship free and easy to obtain and Id be on board.
You don't have a drivers license? A birth certificate? Because you had to have both of those to get a passport...
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Drivers licenses don't prove citizenship. Wife has a driver's license but can't vote. I'm sure she'llbe losing that privilege before long, though. :lol: ;)

I have not had or needed a birth certificate in decades and I don't have one. You don't need one to renew a passport.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Drivers licenses don't prove citizenship. Wife has a driver's license but can't vote. I'm sure she'llbe losing that privilege before long, though. :lol: ;)

I have not had or needed a birth certificate in decades and I don't have one. You don't need one to renew a passport.
You don't need it to renew but you need it for the initial. And you can get a certified copy of your BC from whatever hospital you were born at (or that county records office, not sure which)...they're out there. I'd highly recommend having that document available. :nod:
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Again, haven't needed one in all of my adult years. If it becomes necessary to vote - I'll get one, though
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Again, haven't needed one in all of my adult years. If it becomes necessary to vote - I'll get one, though
Much like a passport, better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. :coffee:
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Ibanez wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:Systems which don't allow same day registration shouldn't have a place in modern society.

If you're eligible to vote and want to vote, there should be zero hoops to do so.
Agreed. Provide proof of citizenship and go vote.

I honestly don't know why the left wants non citizens to have a say. I mean, I understand they selfish reasons. I guess those are the only ones.
Agreed, this should be easy to do, but both parties have their own niche reasons for not wanting to solve this so we have the system that we have. But in the grand scheme of things, though, even today, it's really easy to be able to vote, you just have to go out and do it. We tend to be a tad lazy as a country, though.
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∞∞∞ wrote:Systems which don't allow same day registration shouldn't have a place in modern society.

If you're eligible to vote and want to vote, there should be zero hoops to do so.
Why does basic human nature escape you so easily?


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BDKJMU wrote:Supreme Court says states can remove voters who skip elections, ignore warnings

WASHINGTON -- Failing to vote can lead to getting knocked off voter registration rolls, a deeply divided Supreme Court ruled Monday in a decision that likely will help Republicans and hurt Democrats.

The court's conservative majority ruled 5-4 that Ohio did not violate federal laws by purging voters who failed to vote for six years and did not confirm their residency -- considered the strictest such law in the nation.

The ruling protects similar laws in six states, including several electing governors or U.S. senators this fall. They are Pennsylvania, Georgia, Oregon, Oklahoma, West Virginia and Montana.

Civil rights groups had challenged Ohio's procedure for cleaning up voter registration rolls because it disproportionately affects minorities, the poor and people with disabilities. The Trump administration reversed the position taken by its predecessor and sided with Ohio......”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 587316002/
I think this is the first big decision where one can say that it's likely that the Republicans denying Obama a Supreme Court nomination mattered. And it IS big.

I think both sides have ulterior motives. I think the Republicans do want to stop people who are legally eligible to vote from voting. I think they do want to cut voting among minorities. And I also think Democrats want to have people who are not eligible to vote voting.

This was a fairly big win for Republican vote suppression efforts and a fairly big loss for Democrat illegal voting efforts.
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BTW, I think that if people had to provide actual proof of citizenship in order to vote most people who vote now couldn't vote.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Drivers licenses don't prove citizenship. Wife has a driver's license but can't vote. I'm sure she'llbe losing that privilege before long, though. :lol: ;)

I have not had or needed a birth certificate in decades and I don't have one. You don't need one to renew a passport.
You don't need it to renew but you need it for the initial. And you can get a certified copy of your BC from whatever hospital you were born at (or that county records office, not sure which)...they're out there. I'd highly recommend having that document available. :nod:
Vital Records. Usually your state DHEC, like in SC.


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Skjellyfetti wrote:Only proof of citizenship I have is a passport. Most Americans don't have that.

Make proof of citizenship free and easy to obtain and Id be on board.
Like a REAL ID?


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JohnStOnge wrote:BTW, I think that if people had to provide actual proof of citizenship in order to vote most people who vote now couldn't vote.
That’s the point, Einstein.


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