The Cult of Donald...
- Chizzang
- Level5
- Posts: 19273
- Joined: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:36 am
- I am a fan of: Deflate Gate
- A.K.A.: The Quasar Kid
- Location: Soon to be Eden Prairie...
The Cult of Donald...
This is a perfect 8:00 minutes for JSO...
Reza Aslan talks about how Evangelical Christians have surrendered morality for power
Includes for interesting data too / the first 5:00 minutes is pure gold
Reza Aslan talks about how Evangelical Christians have surrendered morality for power
Includes for interesting data too / the first 5:00 minutes is pure gold
Q: Name something that offends Republicans?
A: The actual teachings of Jesus
A: The actual teachings of Jesus
- Gil Dobie
- Supporter
- Posts: 30944
- Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:45 pm
- I am a fan of: Norse Dakota State
- Location: Historic Leduc Estate
Re: The Cult of Donald...
Like Jesse Ventura, like The Donald.
You gave me power in your own god's name
I'm every person you need to be
Oh, I'm the cult of personality
You gave me power in your own god's name
I'm every person you need to be
Oh, I'm the cult of personality
Last edited by Gil Dobie on Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:14 am, edited 1 time in total.
- 89Hen
- Supporter
- Posts: 39224
- Joined: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:13 pm
- I am a fan of: High Horses
- A.K.A.: The Almighty Arbiter
Re: The Cult of Donald...
Please tell me you're kidding.Chizzang wrote:This is a perfect 8:00 minutes for JSO...
Reza Aslan talks about how Evangelical Christians have surrendered morality for power
Includes for interesting data too / the first 5:00 minutes is pure gold
- Chizzang
- Level5
- Posts: 19273
- Joined: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:36 am
- I am a fan of: Deflate Gate
- A.K.A.: The Quasar Kid
- Location: Soon to be Eden Prairie...
Re: The Cult of Donald...
JSO will help you out if you're confused... Stand by please93henfan wrote:But the alternative!
Best quote from video:
In the span of a single election cycle evangelicals have gone from being the group most likely to say "a politicians Morality matters" to the group that is now least likely to say a politicians morality matters... Atheists in America think that a politicians morality matters more than evangelicals - for the first time in American history
*Zing!!!
Q: Name something that offends Republicans?
A: The actual teachings of Jesus
A: The actual teachings of Jesus
Re: The Cult of Donald...
It’s about time atheists believed in something!Chizzang wrote:JSO will help you out if you're confused... Stand by please93henfan wrote:But the alternative!
Best quote from video:
In the span of a single election cycle evangelicals have gone from being the group most likely to say "a politicians Morality matters" to the group that is now least likely to say a politicians morality matters... Atheists in America think that a politicians morality matters more than evangelicals - for the first time in American history
*Zing!!!
Delaware Football: 1889-2012; 2022-
- Chizzang
- Level5
- Posts: 19273
- Joined: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:36 am
- I am a fan of: Deflate Gate
- A.K.A.: The Quasar Kid
- Location: Soon to be Eden Prairie...
Re: The Cult of Donald...
Ba Da Boom..!!!1!193henfan wrote:It’s about time atheists believed in something!Chizzang wrote:
JSO will help you out if you're confused... Stand by please
Best quote from video:
In the span of a single election cycle evangelicals have gone from being the group most likely to say "a politicians Morality matters" to the group that is now least likely to say a politicians morality matters... Atheists in America think that a politicians morality matters more than evangelicals - for the first time in American history
*Zing!!!
Q: Name something that offends Republicans?
A: The actual teachings of Jesus
A: The actual teachings of Jesus
- 89Hen
- Supporter
- Posts: 39224
- Joined: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:13 pm
- I am a fan of: High Horses
- A.K.A.: The Almighty Arbiter
Re: The Cult of Donald...
Was when he made the outlandish claim that blacks vote for Dems.Chizzang wrote:Best quote from video:
- andy7171
- Firefly
- Posts: 27951
- Joined: Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:12 am
- I am a fan of: Wiping.
- A.K.A.: HE HATE ME
- Location: Eastern Palouse
Re: The Cult of Donald...
I love it when Cleets tells us what to think.
"Elaine, you're from Baltimore, right?"
"Yes, well, Towson actually."
"Yes, well, Towson actually."
Re: The Cult of Donald...
Yes. I would never do that.andy7171 wrote:I love it when Cleets tells us what to think.
-The Pope
Delaware Football: 1889-2012; 2022-
- Chizzang
- Level5
- Posts: 19273
- Joined: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:36 am
- I am a fan of: Deflate Gate
- A.K.A.: The Quasar Kid
- Location: Soon to be Eden Prairie...
Re: The Cult of Donald...
How exactly am I telling you anything..?andy7171 wrote:I love it when Cleets tells us what to think.
and I would never assume you actually "Think" Andy...
Q: Name something that offends Republicans?
A: The actual teachings of Jesus
A: The actual teachings of Jesus
-
- Supporter
- Posts: 59476
- Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
- I am a fan of: Eastern
- A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
- Location: Northern Palouse
Re: The Cult of Donald...
Reza Aslan?Chizzang wrote:This is a perfect 8:00 minutes for JSO...
Reza Aslan talks about how Evangelical Christians have surrendered morality for power
Includes for interesting data too / the first 5:00 minutes is pure gold
(Sam Harris and Maajid Nawaz were on Rogan last week and let’s just say Aslan was not treated well.)
- Chizzang
- Level5
- Posts: 19273
- Joined: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:36 am
- I am a fan of: Deflate Gate
- A.K.A.: The Quasar Kid
- Location: Soon to be Eden Prairie...
Re: The Cult of Donald...
Aslan is an absolute twatkalm wrote:Reza Aslan?Chizzang wrote:This is a perfect 8:00 minutes for JSO...
Reza Aslan talks about how Evangelical Christians have surrendered morality for power
Includes for interesting data too / the first 5:00 minutes is pure gold
(Sam Harris and Maajid Nawaz were on Rogan last week and let’s just say Aslan was not treated well.)
But I thought this would get some mileage around here
You know, for team JSO...
Oh...
don't forget to tell Andy what to think while you're here
Q: Name something that offends Republicans?
A: The actual teachings of Jesus
A: The actual teachings of Jesus
- CID1990
- Level5
- Posts: 25460
- Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:40 am
- I am a fan of: Pie
- A.K.A.: CID 1990
- Location: กรุงเทพมหานคร
Re: The Cult of Donald...
I've thought about this several timesChizzang wrote:This is a perfect 8:00 minutes for JSO...
Reza Aslan talks about how Evangelical Christians have surrendered morality for power
Includes for interesting data too / the first 5:00 minutes is pure gold
Since Trump won the election I haven't been able to figure why I don't find this really all that remarkable
then it hit me a couple weeks ago and I almost commented on it in a different thread
To the religious...criticizing a social liberal on moral grounds is easy and natural to do. And to Christians in particular, supporting a sinner/heathen/whatever who is perceived to be doing the work if the bearded man in the sky is also easy and natural to do
Christianity is literally steeped in story and tradition of reluctant pagan warriors for God - all the way back to Longinus who converted after piercing Jesus on the cross
In fact, good works for God performed by flawed heroes is the bedrock of the religion itself-- Trump is in some ways more fit for Christian adulation than someone on the other end of the morality scale
So yes - it is hypocritical - but it is also perfectly understandable if not predictable
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
"You however, are an insufferable ankle biting mental chihuahua..." - Clizzoris
- JohnStOnge
- Egalitarian
- Posts: 20314
- Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:47 pm
- I am a fan of: McNeese State
- A.K.A.: JohnStOnge
Re: The Cult of Donald...
Well, I believe that I must tell the truth
And say things as they really are
But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
Could I ever be a star?
Deep Purple: No One Came
And say things as they really are
But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
Could I ever be a star?
Deep Purple: No One Came
- Gil Dobie
- Supporter
- Posts: 30944
- Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:45 pm
- I am a fan of: Norse Dakota State
- Location: Historic Leduc Estate
Re: The Cult of Donald...
I still don't see the hypocrisy of voters, voting for a candidate that promises them to support their causes. The candidates background may turn off a few, but it comes down to who has the better chance of supporting your cause. So that's why, IMO, Trump had 46 % of Evangelical Christians voting for him. He vocally supported their cause.CID1990 wrote:
I've thought about this several times
Since Trump won the election I haven't been able to figure why I don't find this really all that remarkable
then it hit me a couple weeks ago and I almost commented on it in a different thread
To the religious...criticizing a social liberal on moral grounds is easy and natural to do. And to Christians in particular, supporting a sinner/heathen/whatever who is perceived to be doing the work if the bearded man in the sky is also easy and natural to do
Christianity is literally steeped in story and tradition of reluctant pagan warriors for God - all the way back to Longinus who converted after piercing Jesus on the cross
In fact, good works for God performed by flawed heroes is the bedrock of the religion itself-- Trump is in some ways more fit for Christian adulation than someone on the other end of the morality scale
So yes - it is hypocritical - but it is also perfectly understandable if not predictable
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
If Trump promised these Evangelicals $100,000 each for their vote, but vocally was pro-abortion, then that would be hypocritical.
- CID1990
- Level5
- Posts: 25460
- Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:40 am
- I am a fan of: Pie
- A.K.A.: CID 1990
- Location: กรุงเทพมหานคร
Re: The Cult of Donald...
It is hypocritical to make morality a qualification (see Bill Clinton) and then support Trump.Gil Dobie wrote:I still don't see the hypocrisy of voters, voting for a candidate that promises them to support their causes. The candidates background may turn off a few, but it comes down to who has the better chance of supporting your cause. So that's why, IMO, Trump had 46 % of Evangelical Christians voting for him. He vocally supported their cause.CID1990 wrote:
I've thought about this several times
Since Trump won the election I haven't been able to figure why I don't find this really all that remarkable
then it hit me a couple weeks ago and I almost commented on it in a different thread
To the religious...criticizing a social liberal on moral grounds is easy and natural to do. And to Christians in particular, supporting a sinner/heathen/whatever who is perceived to be doing the work if the bearded man in the sky is also easy and natural to do
Christianity is literally steeped in story and tradition of reluctant pagan warriors for God - all the way back to Longinus who converted after piercing Jesus on the cross
In fact, good works for God performed by flawed heroes is the bedrock of the religion itself-- Trump is in some ways more fit for Christian adulation than someone on the other end of the morality scale
So yes - it is hypocritical - but it is also perfectly understandable if not predictable
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
If Trump promised these Evangelicals $100,000 each for their vote, but vocally was pro-abortion, then that would be hypocritical.
"You however, are an insufferable ankle biting mental chihuahua..." - Clizzoris
- Gil Dobie
- Supporter
- Posts: 30944
- Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:45 pm
- I am a fan of: Norse Dakota State
- Location: Historic Leduc Estate
Re: The Cult of Donald...
Still appears to be voting for a cause vs moral values of the candidate, when the vote is cast.CID1990 wrote:It is hypocritical to make morality a qualification (see Bill Clinton) and then support Trump.Gil Dobie wrote:
I still don't see the hypocrisy of voters, voting for a candidate that promises them to support their causes. The candidates background may turn off a few, but it comes down to who has the better chance of supporting your cause. So that's why, IMO, Trump had 46 % of Evangelical Christians voting for him. He vocally supported their cause.
If Trump promised these Evangelicals $100,000 each for their vote, but vocally was pro-abortion, then that would be hypocritical.
I would take a wild guess, and say Bill got around 25-30% of the Evangelicals in America.
- Chizzang
- Level5
- Posts: 19273
- Joined: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:36 am
- I am a fan of: Deflate Gate
- A.K.A.: The Quasar Kid
- Location: Soon to be Eden Prairie...
Re: The Cult of Donald...
I'm fascinated by this alsoCID1990 wrote: I've thought about this several times
Since Trump won the election I haven't been able to figure why I don't find this really all that remarkable
then it hit me a couple weeks ago and I almost commented on it in a different thread
To the religious...criticizing a social liberal on moral grounds is easy and natural to do. And to Christians in particular, supporting a sinner/heathen/whatever who is perceived to be doing the work if the bearded man in the sky is also easy and natural to do
Christianity is literally steeped in story and tradition of reluctant pagan warriors for God - all the way back to Longinus who converted after piercing Jesus on the cross
In fact, good works for God performed by flawed heroes is the bedrock of the religion itself-- Trump is in some ways more fit for Christian adulation than someone on the other end of the morality scale
So yes - it is hypocritical - but it is also perfectly understandable if not predictable
and am curious to know if there's an acceptable equivalency for Liberal / Agnostics..?
Can any monster do their Liberal political bidding
and then Liberals request a pass because "reasons" ?
Evangelicals are basically saying what Gil has just posted - which is - the end justifies the means
Because that is what pretty much all evangelicals are saying in unison except a scant few
So do the ends to all political endeavors justify any means by which they are accomplished
or should we really have some kind of moral compass
Who knows..?
But I'm glad Evangelicals are finally showing their true form
Q: Name something that offends Republicans?
A: The actual teachings of Jesus
A: The actual teachings of Jesus
-
- Supporter
- Posts: 59476
- Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
- I am a fan of: Eastern
- A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
- Location: Northern Palouse
Re: The Cult of Donald...
Blah, blah, blah. What’s most interesting in this thread is JSO posting an L7 video.
Ill bet 89hen loves L7...
Ill bet 89hen loves L7...
- CID1990
- Level5
- Posts: 25460
- Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:40 am
- I am a fan of: Pie
- A.K.A.: CID 1990
- Location: กรุงเทพมหานคร
The Cult of Donald...
Of course they canChizzang wrote:I'm fascinated by this alsoCID1990 wrote: I've thought about this several times
Since Trump won the election I haven't been able to figure why I don't find this really all that remarkable
then it hit me a couple weeks ago and I almost commented on it in a different thread
To the religious...criticizing a social liberal on moral grounds is easy and natural to do. And to Christians in particular, supporting a sinner/heathen/whatever who is perceived to be doing the work if the bearded man in the sky is also easy and natural to do
Christianity is literally steeped in story and tradition of reluctant pagan warriors for God - all the way back to Longinus who converted after piercing Jesus on the cross
In fact, good works for God performed by flawed heroes is the bedrock of the religion itself-- Trump is in some ways more fit for Christian adulation than someone on the other end of the morality scale
So yes - it is hypocritical - but it is also perfectly understandable if not predictable
and am curious to know if there's an acceptable equivalency for Liberal / Agnostics..?
Can any monster do their Liberal political bidding
and then Liberals request a pass because "reasons" ?
we have numerous examples from the 20th century of monsters doing the leftist lord's work
and coffeehouse socialists making "yes, but" caveats about how their hearts started out in the right place ... or their rage was justified they just took it too far, or it just wasnt done correctly- this time we'd get it right, or hey look (yes, but) they have single payer healthcare in Cuba
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
"You however, are an insufferable ankle biting mental chihuahua..." - Clizzoris
Re: The Cult of Donald...
You guys still don’t get it. The Dems with all their bashing of Christians, threatening to revoke donations as tax deductible, fight the Little Sisters of the Poor and other groups over abortion on demand, demanding that feds pay for abortion and other things, leave us no choice but to vote and support Trump.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
-
- Supporter
- Posts: 59476
- Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
- I am a fan of: Eastern
- A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
- Location: Northern Palouse
Re: The Cult of Donald...
Yes. The next progressive Hitler/Pol Pot is just waiting to be unleashed!CID1990 wrote:Of course they canChizzang wrote:
I'm fascinated by this also
and am curious to know if there's an acceptable equivalency for Liberal / Agnostics..?
Can any monster do their Liberal political bidding
and then Liberals request a pass because "reasons" ?
we have numerous examples from the 20th century of monsters doing the leftist lord's work
and coffeehouse socialists making "yes, but" caveats about how their hearts started out in the right place ... or their rage was justified they just took it too far, or it just wasnt done correctly- this time we'd get it right, or hey look (yes, but) they have single payer healthcare in Cuba
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
- UNI88
- Supporter
- Posts: 20147
- Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:30 am
- I am a fan of: UNI
- Location: the foggy, woggy banks Of the Limpopo River
Re: The Cult of Donald...
Many already parade this guy around as some sort of hero ...kalm wrote:Yes. The next progressive Hitler/Pol Pot is just waiting to be unleashed!CID1990 wrote:
Of course they can
we have numerous examples from the 20th century of monsters doing the leftist lord's work
and coffeehouse socialists making "yes, but" caveats about how their hearts started out in the right place ... or their rage was justified they just took it too far, or it just wasnt done correctly- this time we'd get it right, or hey look (yes, but) they have single payer healthcare in Cuba
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
And you complain about Conks whitewashing Reagan's history.
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm
- Chizzang
- Level5
- Posts: 19273
- Joined: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:36 am
- I am a fan of: Deflate Gate
- A.K.A.: The Quasar Kid
- Location: Soon to be Eden Prairie...
Re: The Cult of Donald...
Don't laugh (you asshole)CID1990 wrote:Of course they canChizzang wrote:
I'm fascinated by this also
and am curious to know if there's an acceptable equivalency for Liberal / Agnostics..?
Can any monster do their Liberal political bidding
and then Liberals request a pass because "reasons" ?
we have numerous examples from the 20th century of monsters doing the leftist lord's work
and coffeehouse socialists making "yes, but" caveats about how their hearts started out in the right place ... or their rage was justified they just took it too far, or it just wasnt done correctly- this time we'd get it right, or hey look (yes, but) they have single payer healthcare in Cuba
But I think I just figured out who the Liberal Equivalent is... (you're already laughing I can hear it)
Hilary Clinton is the monster that would do the Lefts bidding
at any cost and with zero moral accountability
This was not a set-up gag, I literally just figure that out 3 minutes ago
Sorry, I'll show myself out - I just "but Hilary'd" myself
Never mind:
Just delete the whole thread please
Q: Name something that offends Republicans?
A: The actual teachings of Jesus
A: The actual teachings of Jesus