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When you need a lawyer...
Um...
It sounds like Trump is going to need a lawyer to protect himself from his other lawyer
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/20/us/p ... cohen.html
Question for Ivy,
Does Trumps new legal team get to see all the stuff that was confiscated in the raid..?
It sounds like Trump is going to need a lawyer to protect himself from his other lawyer
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/20/us/p ... cohen.html
Question for Ivy,
Does Trumps new legal team get to see all the stuff that was confiscated in the raid..?
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Re: When you need a lawyer...
Trump needs to hire 100 mercenaries and kill everyone that comes after him.
This shit is so stupid, childish and political that somebody needs to be taught a lesson. Trump hasnt done one thing as President that is worth an investigation. When he does then have one.......until then shut up or die
This shit is so stupid, childish and political that somebody needs to be taught a lesson. Trump hasnt done one thing as President that is worth an investigation. When he does then have one.......until then shut up or die
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Re: When you need a lawyer...
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Trump needs to hire 100 mercenaries and kill everyone that comes after him.
This shit is so stupid, childish and political that somebody needs to be taught a lesson. Trump hasnt done one thing as President that is worth an investigation. When he does then have one.......until then shut up or die
Settle down sparky
Every greasy con-man has to go through this kind of thing
He'll either make it through or he won't - and it won't matter either way
He has served his purpose
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The answer to your question is yes. If communications between Cohen and Trump are privileged, that privilege extends to Trump’s new lawyers.Chizzang wrote:Um...
It sounds like Trump is going to need a lawyer to protect himself from his other lawyer
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/20/us/p ... cohen.html
Question for Ivy,
Does Trumps new legal team get to see all the stuff that was confiscated in the raid..?
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That attitude just doesn't fly. Suppose, for instance, we found out that Trump's campaign was in on the hacking of the Democrats' e mails and cooperated with Russia to do it. And suppose we found out that Trump was aware of it and actually directed that it be done.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Trump needs to hire 100 mercenaries and kill everyone that comes after him.
This **** is so stupid, childish and political that somebody needs to be taught a lesson. Trump hasnt done one thing as President that is worth an investigation. When he does then have one.......until then shut up or die
I don't think that happened. But the idea that the only thing that matters is whether Trump has done anything to merit investigation since he's been President is pretty bad.
BTW I think one might argue that he's done things as President that merit investigation and/or consideration with respect to the obstruction of justice issue anyway. He is clearly trying to impede investigations. But that's another issue.
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"Clearly trying to impede investigations" Kind of like having your own email server? Or are you naive enough to think that was just an honest mistake too?JohnStOnge wrote:That attitude just doesn't fly. Suppose, for instance, we found out that Trump's campaign was in on the hacking of the Democrats' e mails and cooperated with Russia to do it. And suppose we found out that Trump was aware of it and actually directed that it be done.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Trump needs to hire 100 mercenaries and kill everyone that comes after him.
This **** is so stupid, childish and political that somebody needs to be taught a lesson. Trump hasnt done one thing as President that is worth an investigation. When he does then have one.......until then shut up or die
I don't think that happened. But the idea that the only thing that matters is whether Trump has done anything to merit investigation since he's been President is pretty bad.
BTW I think one might argue that he's done things as President that merit investigation and/or consideration with respect to the obstruction of justice issue anyway. He is clearly trying to impede investigations. But that's another issue.
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What I think is that having a private e mail server was stupid as well as unethical but kind of in a grey area at the time. Trump is expressing a clear intent to impede investigations. It's right out front and in the open.UNI88 wrote:"Clearly trying to impede investigations" Kind of like having your own email server? Or are you naive enough to think that was just an honest mistake too?JohnStOnge wrote:
That attitude just doesn't fly. Suppose, for instance, we found out that Trump's campaign was in on the hacking of the Democrats' e mails and cooperated with Russia to do it. And suppose we found out that Trump was aware of it and actually directed that it be done.
I don't think that happened. But the idea that the only thing that matters is whether Trump has done anything to merit investigation since he's been President is pretty bad.
BTW I think one might argue that he's done things as President that merit investigation and/or consideration with respect to the obstruction of justice issue anyway. He is clearly trying to impede investigations. But that's another issue.
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No, John. You've been told numerous times by people in the field... heck, you've been told by someone with a state.gov email address and up to SCI clearance that it is not nor was it ever a gray area.JohnStOnge wrote:What I think is that having a private e mail server was stupid as well as unethical but kind of in a grey area at the time. Trump is expressing a clear intent to impede investigations. It's right out front and in the open.UNI88 wrote:
"Clearly trying to impede investigations" Kind of like having your own email server? Or are you naive enough to think that was just an honest mistake too?
Just because you say it over and over, and ignore corrections from people who are in a position to know doesn't make it so.
Just stop
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What you think is completely subjective and in my opinion (as someone who dislikes both Trump & Hillary) extremely biased. They're both stinky shit and you're arging that Hillary doesn't smell too bad. It's a losing argument.JohnStOnge wrote:What I think is that having a private e mail server was stupid but kind of in a grey area at the time. Trump is expressing a clear intent to impede investigations. It's right out front and in the open.UNI88 wrote:
"Clearly trying to impede investigations" Kind of like having your own email server? Or are you naive enough to think that was just an honest mistake too?
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Like Clockwork...
Three posts into the thread about our president... aaaand we're on to Hilary
Three posts into the thread about our president... aaaand we're on to Hilary
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Can I ask if you were so quick to point out all the instances of "but Bush" during the previous 8 years? It's a common occurrence and John's insistence on pointing out Trump's many faults while denying his obtuseness to Hillary's makes it kind of fun. What kind of angle is more than 90 and less than 180 degrees? A JSO angle.Chizzang wrote:Like Clockwork...
Three posts into the thread about our president... aaaand we're on to Hilary
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Re: When you need a lawyer...
When they raided Cohen’s office, they effectively killed attorney and client privilege. This crap has to stop. The country is heading down a dark road that could lead to people disappearing at night.
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Well that's a givenChizzang wrote:Like Clockwork...
Three posts into the thread about our president... aaaand we're on to Hilary
since she was the alternative
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You are aware of what has to happen for an attorney's office to get raided right..?css75 wrote:When they raided Cohen’s office, they effectively killed attorney and client privilege. This crap has to stop. The country is heading down a dark road that could lead to people disappearing at night.
You understand the process right..?
There is no way the President of the United States private attorney's office gets raided
Without his own appointees signing off on it and U.S. attorney Geoffrey Berman is a Trump appointee
To serve a search warrant on a practicing attorney
Federal prosecutors are required to obtain approval from top Justice Department officials
Which are also Trump Appointees
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Yep. Time to return to the sexy topic of attorney-client privilege.Chizzang wrote:Like Clockwork...
Three posts into the thread about our president... aaaand we're on to Hilary
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5th post, that brought up Hilary was by JSO.Ivytalk wrote:Yep. Time to return to the sexy topic of attorney-client privilege.Chizzang wrote:Like Clockwork...
Three posts into the thread about our president... aaaand we're on to Hilary
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Actually I think that was 88 who brought it upGil Dobie wrote:5th post, that brought up Hilary was by JSO.Ivytalk wrote: Yep. Time to return to the sexy topic of attorney-client privilege.
JSO doesnt count because he will reliably reply to any comment remotely about his heroine or Trump
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How many confidants/followers/yes men can you throw under the bus before it bites you in the ass?
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Answer:kalm wrote:How many confidants/followers/yes men can you throw under the bus before it bites you in the ass?
All of them
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Trump needs to hire 100 mercenaries and kill everyone that comes after him.
This shit is so stupid, childish and political that somebody needs to be taught a lesson. Trump hasnt done one thing as President that is worth an investigation. When he does then have one.......until then shut up or die
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dbackjon wrote:ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Trump needs to hire 100 mercenaries and kill everyone that comes after him.
This shit is so stupid, childish and political that somebody needs to be taught a lesson. Trump hasnt done one thing as President that is worth an investigation. When he does then have one.......until then shut up or die
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Chizzang wrote:dbackjon wrote:
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I'm thinking, if Cohen turns on Trump, good fucking luck ever getting a new client.
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A grey area? Owning and using your own server for email communications when you're the SecofState is not a grey area. It's downright stupid, reckless and only an idiot would think it was a good idea. Tell me, what's the upside not using the infrastructure provided by the DoS?JohnStOnge wrote:What I think is that having a private e mail server was stupid as well as unethical but kind of in a grey area at the time. Trump is expressing a clear intent to impede investigations. It's right out front and in the open.UNI88 wrote:
"Clearly trying to impede investigations" Kind of like having your own email server? Or are you naive enough to think that was just an honest mistake too?
We remediated a risk last year around email communications. I work for one of the largest banks in country and even we aren't immune. You think Hilary with that small shop in Colorado were able to protect, restrict, investigate and respond to attacks better than a government agency that has the best of the best at its disposal?
Get real. Once again, you are intellectually dishonest.
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I thought it was an Obtuse angle.UNI88 wrote:Can I ask if you were so quick to point out all the instances of "but Bush" during the previous 8 years? It's a common occurrence and John's insistence on pointing out Trump's many faults while denying his obtuseness to Hillary's makes it kind of fun. What kind of angle is more than 90 and less than 180 degrees? A JSO angle.Chizzang wrote:Like Clockwork...
Three posts into the thread about our president... aaaand we're on to Hilary
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