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Ibanez wrote:Saw your clan marching this weekend. They better infuse some young blood into that clan or else they might not be around in a few years.
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93henfan wrote:Fuck cremation. That creates particulate matter in the atmosphere. Plus they usually just throw you on the same slab that they burn dogs and cats on too, so your loved ones get a little of you and a little of the lab mix that nobody wanted at the SPCA.

I want to be not buried, but simply dumped at sea, in a field of chummed seawater with great white sharks present. I will be a good meal and help the planet. Winning.
Shark farts are environmentally way worse than cremation. Global warming and stuff, ya know.
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93henfan wrote:Fuck cremation. That creates particulate matter in the atmosphere. Plus they usually just throw you on the same slab that they burn dogs and cats on too, so your loved ones get a little of you and a little of the lab mix that nobody wanted at the SPCA.

I want to be not buried, but simply dumped at sea, in a field of chummed seawater with great white sharks present. I will be a good meal and help the planet. Winning.
Shark farts are environmentally way worse than cremation. Global warming and stuff, ya know.
We’ll shit. Back to the drawing board.
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93henfan wrote:
ASUG8 wrote:
Shark farts are environmentally way worse than cremation. Global warming and stuff, ya know.
We’ll shit. Back to the drawing board.

Don't listen to the AppFan. Just make sure your kids don't throw in any weapons after you, cause the last thing we need are sharks with weapons.
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dbackjon wrote:
93henfan wrote:
We’ll shit. Back to the drawing board.

Don't listen to the AppFan. Just make sure your kids don't throw in any weapons after you, cause the last thing we need are sharks with weapons.
The handguns are fine by themselves, just take the lasers off.
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ASUG8 wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

Don't listen to the AppFan. Just make sure your kids don't throw in any weapons after you, cause the last thing we need are sharks with weapons.
The handguns are fine by themselves, just take the lasers off.
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CID1990 wrote:I have given explicit instructions to a trusted friend to add my ashes to the water supply of an undisclosed city

It WILL happen

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Saw your clan marching this weekend. They better infuse some young blood into that clan or else they might not be around in a few years. The Citadel and Charleston Pipe and Drums were out competing, but it was the lower levels. Biff was here 2 years ago - it's always good to see him. :thumb:
What - Clan Gunn?

That society has been ancient forever

Most Gunn young-uns are either out fishing, in the beer tent, or in jail


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CID1990 wrote:
Ibanez wrote:


Saw your clan marching this weekend. They better infuse some young blood into that clan or else they might not be around in a few years. The Citadel and Charleston Pipe and Drums were out competing, but it was the lower levels. Biff was here 2 years ago - it's always good to see him. :thumb:
What - Clan Gunn?

That society has been ancient forever

Most Gunn young-uns are either out fishing, in the beer tent, or in jail


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CID1990 wrote:
What - Clan Gunn?

That society has been ancient forever

Most Gunn young-uns are either out fishing, in the beer tent, or in jail


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Yes - Gunn. Nice folks.
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dbackjon wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
Yes - Gunn. Nice folks.
Recently found out that the I am descended from Clan Gunn - Mann sept
Gunn has a lot of septs. However, septs aren't solely families that are related. They include those that are simply allies (for protection or if you are a border family, a family that will join you in a raid). :thumb:

I'm not saying that's the case with the Manns. Clan Linton is a sept of Kerr because they were under the protection of Robert Ker of Cessford.
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Ibanez wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
Recently found out that the I am descended from Clan Gunn - Mann sept
Gunn has a lot of septs. However, septs aren't solely families that are related. They include those that are simply allies (for protection or if you are a border family, a family that will join you in a raid). :thumb:

I'm not saying that's the case with the Manns. Clan Linton is a sept of Kerr because they were under the protection of Robert Ker of Cessford.
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Ibanez wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
Recently found out that the I am descended from Clan Gunn - Mann sept
Gunn has a lot of septs. However, septs aren't solely families that are related. They include those that are simply allies (for protection or if you are a border family, a family that will join you in a raid). :thumb:

I'm not saying that's the case with the Manns. Clan Linton is a sept of Kerr because they were under the protection of Robert Ker of Cessford.

According to the cousin that did the research, DNA testing, etc that we are - and she spoke to the World Genealogist for Clan Gunn that the line she had traced (along with DNA matches) put us squarely in Clan Gunn.
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dbackjon wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Gunn has a lot of septs. However, septs aren't solely families that are related. They include those that are simply allies (for protection or if you are a border family, a family that will join you in a raid). :thumb:

I'm not saying that's the case with the Manns. Clan Linton is a sept of Kerr because they were under the protection of Robert Ker of Cessford.

According to the cousin that did the research, DNA testing, etc that we are - and she spoke to the World Genealogist for Clan Gunn that the line she had traced (along with DNA matches) put us squarely in Clan Gunn.
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Ibanez wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

According to the cousin that did the research, DNA testing, etc that we are - and she spoke to the World Genealogist for Clan Gunn that the line she had traced (along with DNA matches) put us squarely in Clan Gunn.
:thumb: You and CID can be kissing cousins.

I am sure he is thrilled.
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You guys totally suck at last wishes.

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Viking funeral with a fly over.


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dbackjon wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Gunn has a lot of septs. However, septs aren't solely families that are related. They include those that are simply allies (for protection or if you are a border family, a family that will join you in a raid). :thumb:

I'm not saying that's the case with the Manns. Clan Linton is a sept of Kerr because they were under the protection of Robert Ker of Cessford.

According to the cousin that did the research, DNA testing, etc that we are - and she spoke to the World Genealogist for Clan Gunn that the line she had traced (along with DNA matches) put us squarely in Clan Gunn.
You may well be- but be wary of both the DNA projects (they cant place you in specific clans) and be especially wary of these clan yahoos - the North American Clan Gunn Society and the DNA folks all want your money... some will take more than others

DNA is going to show a number of things, all of which WAY predate the medieval Scottish clan system. Plus, there is going to be all kinds of background noise from the DNA of your other ancestors.

Clan Gunn is a unique clan... it was the product of old Pictish tribes in the Caithness area that interbred with Viking raiders - the name Gunn is actually from the Norse "Gunnar"

If you went back and took the DNA of an actual chieftain of the clan in its heyday, you would find an admixture of Scandinavian and old OLD Breton. The problem is that you'll find that mixture all over the UK, not just in Clan Gunn. It is very prevalent there.

The most reliable way to trace clan ancestry is to actually delve into your family tree and ignore the DNA stuff. It is a distraction and these DNA companies make some very spurious claims to get your money. It is also more interesting because you discover real, actual people that can take you off in all kinds of genealogical directions.

But anybody who tells you a DNA test places you squarely in this clan or that clan is full of it.

BTW- many Gunns in the US trace their lineage to Thomas Gunn I. He was in the Petersburg VA area around the late 1600s early 1700s. His grandson, Starling, was a fusilier in the Continental Army under Nathaniel Greene and witnessed the surrender of Cornwallis at Yorktown. I'm directly descended from him. If you can find one link to the US Gunns in your family tree, there are even odds you share this history.


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I’m partially descended from Clan Chisholm. Well, I am according to my late grandmother who researched that back in the early 1980s the old school way (mostly in Savannah, Ga I think). Think she had the tree going back to the 1500s..y
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CID1990 wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

According to the cousin that did the research, DNA testing, etc that we are - and she spoke to the World Genealogist for Clan Gunn that the line she had traced (along with DNA matches) put us squarely in Clan Gunn.
You may well be- but be wary of both the DNA projects (they cant place you in specific clans) and be especially wary of these clan yahoos - the North American Clan Gunn Society and the DNA folks all want your money... some will take more than others

DNA is going to show a number of things, all of which WAY predate the medieval Scottish clan system. Plus, there is going to be all kinds of background noise from the DNA of your other ancestors.

Clan Gunn is a unique clan... it was the product of old Pictish tribes in the Caithness area that interbred with Viking raiders - the name Gunn is actually from the Norse "Gunnar"

If you went back and took the DNA of an actual chieftain of the clan in its heyday, you would find an admixture of Scandinavian and old OLD Breton. The problem is that you'll find that mixture all over the UK, not just in Clan Gunn. It is very prevalent there.

The most reliable way to trace clan ancestry is to actually delve into your family tree and ignore the DNA stuff. It is a distraction and these DNA companies make some very spurious claims to get your money. It is also more interesting because you discover real, actual people that can take you off in all kinds of genealogical directions.

But anybody who tells you a DNA test places you squarely in this clan or that clan is full of it.

BTW- many Gunns in the US trace their lineage to Thomas Gunn I. He was in the Petersburg VA area around the late 1600s early 1700s. His grandson, Starling, was a fusilier in the Continental Army under Nathaniel Greene and witnessed the surrender of Cornwallis at Yorktown. I'm directly descended from him. If you can find one link to the US Gunns in your family tree, there are even odds you share this history.


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:clap: Well said. I've traced my ancestry, quite extensively, using the actual birth, death, census, military, marriage records, ships logs, etc... there's so much more to the stories than the percentage you get from AncestryDNA or 26&Me.

I have cousins that swear up and down we are related to Josephine Bonaparte. :roll: I showed them our French ancestry and they weren't convinced. The closet we got to royalty was Duke Arceneaux.
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BDKJMU wrote:I’m partially descended from Clan Chisholm. Well, I am according to my late grandmother who researched that back in the early 1980s the old school way (mostly in Savannah, Ga I think). Think she had the tree going back to the 1500s..y
I know a lot of blacks with that surname. :coffee:
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CID1990 wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

According to the cousin that did the research, DNA testing, etc that we are - and she spoke to the World Genealogist for Clan Gunn that the line she had traced (along with DNA matches) put us squarely in Clan Gunn.
You may well be- but be wary of both the DNA projects (they cant place you in specific clans) and be especially wary of these clan yahoos - the North American Clan Gunn Society and the DNA folks all want your money... some will take more than others

DNA is going to show a number of things, all of which WAY predate the medieval Scottish clan system. Plus, there is going to be all kinds of background noise from the DNA of your other ancestors.

Clan Gunn is a unique clan... it was the product of old Pictish tribes in the Caithness area that interbred with Viking raiders - the name Gunn is actually from the Norse "Gunnar"

If you went back and took the DNA of an actual chieftain of the clan in its heyday, you would find an admixture of Scandinavian and old OLD Breton. The problem is that you'll find that mixture all over the UK, not just in Clan Gunn. It is very prevalent there.

The most reliable way to trace clan ancestry is to actually delve into your family tree and ignore the DNA stuff. It is a distraction and these DNA companies make some very spurious claims to get your money. It is also more interesting because you discover real, actual people that can take you off in all kinds of genealogical directions.

But anybody who tells you a DNA test places you squarely in this clan or that clan is full of it.

BTW- many Gunns in the US trace their lineage to Thomas Gunn I. He was in the Petersburg VA area around the late 1600s early 1700s. His grandson, Starling, was a fusilier in the Continental Army under Nathaniel Greene and witnessed the surrender of Cornwallis at Yorktown. I'm directly descended from him. If you can find one link to the US Gunns in your family tree, there are even odds you share this history.


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Good to know. We can directly trace back to John Mann, born in Ulster in 1747, with a probable link to other Manns (records are a little sketchy before him) born in the Caithness area of Scotland. John Mann emigrated to Pennsylvania in the 1760's and was a PVT. & Fifer in Capt. Wilson Company in the Pennsylvania Continental Line.
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Ibanez wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:I’m partially descended from Clan Chisholm. Well, I am according to my late grandmother who researched that back in the early 1980s the old school way (mostly in Savannah, Ga I think). Think she had the tree going back to the 1500s..y
I know a lot of blacks with that surname. :coffee:
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Primarily located in: South Africa, Namibia, Botswana, Congo.....”
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BDKJMU wrote:
Ibanez wrote: I know a lot of blacks with that surname. :coffee:
According to my Ancestry.com results:
“....Africa South-Central Hunter-Gatherers <1%
Primarily located in: South Africa, Namibia, Botswana, Congo.....”
It went over your head.
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dbackjon wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
You may well be- but be wary of both the DNA projects (they cant place you in specific clans) and be especially wary of these clan yahoos - the North American Clan Gunn Society and the DNA folks all want your money... some will take more than others

DNA is going to show a number of things, all of which WAY predate the medieval Scottish clan system. Plus, there is going to be all kinds of background noise from the DNA of your other ancestors.

Clan Gunn is a unique clan... it was the product of old Pictish tribes in the Caithness area that interbred with Viking raiders - the name Gunn is actually from the Norse "Gunnar"

If you went back and took the DNA of an actual chieftain of the clan in its heyday, you would find an admixture of Scandinavian and old OLD Breton. The problem is that you'll find that mixture all over the UK, not just in Clan Gunn. It is very prevalent there.

The most reliable way to trace clan ancestry is to actually delve into your family tree and ignore the DNA stuff. It is a distraction and these DNA companies make some very spurious claims to get your money. It is also more interesting because you discover real, actual people that can take you off in all kinds of genealogical directions.

But anybody who tells you a DNA test places you squarely in this clan or that clan is full of it.

BTW- many Gunns in the US trace their lineage to Thomas Gunn I. He was in the Petersburg VA area around the late 1600s early 1700s. His grandson, Starling, was a fusilier in the Continental Army under Nathaniel Greene and witnessed the surrender of Cornwallis at Yorktown. I'm directly descended from him. If you can find one link to the US Gunns in your family tree, there are even odds you share this history.


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Good to know. We can directly trace back to John Mann, born in Ulster in 1747, with a probable link to other Manns (records are a little sketchy before him) born in the Caithness area of Scotland. John Mann emigrated to Pennsylvania in the 1760's and was a PVT. & Fifer in Capt. Wilson Company in the Pennsylvania Continental Line.
Armagh Township? Good chance he could've wintered at Valley Forge, depending on his service record.
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I will have to check the records - have them at home.
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