https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/r ... 442884002/A bill requiring Tennessee schools to prominently display the national "In God We Trust" motto is headed to the governor for his signature.
The legislation, sponsored by Rep. Susan Lynn, R-Mt. Juliet, overwhelmingly passed the state House on Monday with 81 of the 99 members voting in favor of it. Before the vote, the Republican lawmaker spoke from the House floor about the prominence of the phrase.
"Our national motto is on our money. It's on our license plates. It's part of our national anthem," Lynn said. "Our national motto and founding documents are the cornerstone of freedom and we should teach our children about these things."
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Interesting and of course there's precedent as it's "a part of our national anthem". Question...would they be ok if someday in a school district or a state it was replaced with "Allahu Akbar"? Or how about "In Satan we trust"?
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Basically the same meaning, just prefer the English version.
God is Great vs In God We Trust.
God is Great vs In God We Trust.
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Where is it in our national anthem? I think I missed that part. Is it in the unsung verses?
OK, it is there, sort of:
And this be our motto: 'In God is our trust.'
OK, it is there, sort of:
And this be our motto: 'In God is our trust.'
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Me too. Last verse....93henfan wrote:Where is it in our national anthem? I think I missed that part. Is it in the unsung verses?
O thus be it ever when freemen shall stand
Between their lov'd home and the war's desolation!
Blest with vict'ry and peace may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the power that hath made and preserv'd us a nation!
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto - "In God is our trust,"
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.
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So kind of like the Lord's prayer at supper...Gil Dobie wrote:Basically the same meaning, just prefer the English version.
God is Great vs In God We Trust.
'here's to the father, son, and holy ghost
the biggest hog gets the most.'
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kalm wrote:vict'ry
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Not at all. God has many meanings and forms in America, Thanks to Freedom of Religion. Many have nothing to do with Christianity.kalm wrote:So kind of like the Lord's prayer at supper...Gil Dobie wrote:Basically the same meaning, just prefer the English version.
God is Great vs In God We Trust.
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No one knows there are four verses of the Star Spangled Banner poem, which is where the "In God We Trust" is located. The national anthem is the first verse, it's long enough and no one has ever heard the other three verses sung.kalm wrote:Interesting and of course there's precedent as it's "a part of our national anthem". Question...would they be ok if someday in a school district or a state it was replaced with "Allahu Akbar"? Or how about "In Satan we trust"?
https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/r ... 442884002/A bill requiring Tennessee schools to prominently display the national "In God We Trust" motto is headed to the governor for his signature.
The legislation, sponsored by Rep. Susan Lynn, R-Mt. Juliet, overwhelmingly passed the state House on Monday with 81 of the 99 members voting in favor of it. Before the vote, the Republican lawmaker spoke from the House floor about the prominence of the phrase.
"Our national motto is on our money. It's on our license plates. It's part of our national anthem," Lynn said. "Our national motto and founding documents are the cornerstone of freedom and we should teach our children about these things."
As for this particular item, I see no reason for schools to have to spend more money throwing up mandated mottos because the state legislature thought it was a good idea. It's like how we end up with kids having to waste time learning about the state bird of Tennessee (they have two, actually, the mockingbird and the bobwhite quail) and the state tree of Tennessee (the tulip poplar btw). I mean, we need Jeopardy categories, sure, but why waste the little time schools have now on crap like this?
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I could make a case that for many kids, knowledge of the mockingbird, bobwhite quail, and tulip poplar are as important as anything else they'll learn in school. But that's a whole other debate.GannonFan wrote:No one knows there are four verses of the Star Spangled Banner poem, which is where the "In God We Trust" is located. The national anthem is the first verse, it's long enough and no one has ever heard the other three verses sung.kalm wrote:Interesting and of course there's precedent as it's "a part of our national anthem". Question...would they be ok if someday in a school district or a state it was replaced with "Allahu Akbar"? Or how about "In Satan we trust"?
https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/r ... 442884002/
As for this particular item, I see no reason for schools to have to spend more money throwing up mandated mottos because the state legislature thought it was a good idea. It's like how we end up with kids having to waste time learning about the state bird of Tennessee (they have two, actually, the mockingbird and the bobwhite quail) and the state tree of Tennessee (the tulip poplar btw). I mean, we need Jeopardy categories, sure, but why waste the little time schools have now on crap like this?
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Fun fact, but the first US coin (Birch Cent) has the motto, "Liberty, Parent of Science & Industry."
Powerful.
And it was designed by Washington/Jefferson in 1792, but all we get nowadays is "In God We Trust" thanks to the 50's freak out of differentiating America from those godless communists.
Powerful.
And it was designed by Washington/Jefferson in 1792, but all we get nowadays is "In God We Trust" thanks to the 50's freak out of differentiating America from those godless communists.
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Who really gives a fuck. If we lose the country, they can change it to what ever they want. I'll be dead.
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Tulip poplars suck when next to driveways, decks, houses, etc. Weak-ass trees that drop shit all the time.kalm wrote: I could make a case that for many kids, knowledge of the mockingbird, bobwhite quail, and tulip poplar are as important as anything else they'll learn in school. But that's a whole other debate.
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See what I mean? That's some valuable education you learned!CAA Flagship wrote:Tulip poplars suck when next to driveways, decks, houses, etc. Weak-ass trees that drop shit all the time.kalm wrote: I could make a case that for many kids, knowledge of the mockingbird, bobwhite quail, and tulip poplar are as important as anything else they'll learn in school. But that's a whole other debate.
(Lombardi poplars and the hybrid cottonwood/poplars on my course are the same)
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Yeah, poplars in general are not dense-wooded trees. Branches break off all the time. They are even a low choice of firewood because they burn too quickly.kalm wrote:See what I mean? That's some valuable education you learned!CAA Flagship wrote: Tulip poplars suck when next to driveways, decks, houses, etc. Weak-ass trees that drop shit all the time.
(Lombardi poplars and the hybrid cottonwood/poplars on my course are the same)
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I don't think the schools really get into the questions of best placements of trees, the aesthetics, and so on. They're generally concerned with the rote recitation and that's about it.kalm wrote:See what I mean? That's some valuable education you learned!CAA Flagship wrote: Tulip poplars suck when next to driveways, decks, houses, etc. Weak-ass trees that drop **** all the time.
(Lombardi poplars and the hybrid cottonwood/poplars on my course are the same)
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My kid’s elementary school had a garden the kids worked in and they took trips to Turnbull NWR to explore and learn about native plants and animals. Those are the kind of classrooms and learning we need more of.GannonFan wrote:I don't think the schools really get into the questions of best placements of trees, the aesthetics, and so on. They're generally concerned with the rote recitation and that's about it.kalm wrote:
See what I mean? That's some valuable education you learned!
(Lombardi poplars and the hybrid cottonwood/poplars on my course are the same)
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Reading, writing, and math are pretty important too. I'm sure they can all be worked in if we try.kalm wrote:My kid’s elementary school had a garden the kids worked in and they took trips to Turnbull NWR to explore and learn about native plants and animals. Those are the kind of classrooms and learning we need more of.GannonFan wrote:
I don't think the schools really get into the questions of best placements of trees, the aesthetics, and so on. They're generally concerned with the rote recitation and that's about it.
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This doesn't really bother me...
It is exactly the opposite type of reasoning used to build this nation
and it flies in the face of the concept of our Republic for which it stands
But when people get scared they go backwards
and I am not surprised Tennessee is scared of the rest of big scary America
It is exactly the opposite type of reasoning used to build this nation
and it flies in the face of the concept of our Republic for which it stands
But when people get scared they go backwards
and I am not surprised Tennessee is scared of the rest of big scary America
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I think you're missing the part about clinging to their guns and religion, gotta throw that in there too.Chizzang wrote:This doesn't really bother me...
It is exactly the opposite type of reasoning used to build this nation
and it flies in the face of the concept of our Republic for which it stands
But when people get scared they go backwards
and I am not surprised Tennessee is scared of the rest of big scary America
Oh, and speaking of guns, Tennessee actually has a state gun - the Barrett M82/M107. I had no idea. Thank goodness they passed that bit of legislation. I haven't looked, would be fascinated to know how many states have an official state gun.
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I'd be happy if they came out being able to balance a checkbook, understand how personal credit works, and were able to change a flat tire and their own oil.kalm wrote: I could make a case that for many kids, knowledge of the mockingbird, bobwhite quail, and tulip poplar are as important as anything else they'll learn in school. But that's a whole other debate.
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This ^ a hundred times this ^AZGrizFan wrote:I'd be happy if they came out being able to balance a checkbook, understand how personal credit works, and were able to change a flat tire and their own oil.kalm wrote: I could make a case that for many kids, knowledge of the mockingbird, bobwhite quail, and tulip poplar are as important as anything else they'll learn in school. But that's a whole other debate.
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Tulip poplars aren't actually poplars (or tulips), they are in the magnolia family.kalm wrote:See what I mean? That's some valuable education you learned!CAA Flagship wrote: Tulip poplars suck when next to driveways, decks, houses, etc. Weak-ass trees that drop shit all the time.
(Lombardi poplars and the hybrid cottonwood/poplars on my course are the same)
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Barretts are made in Christiana, TN.GannonFan wrote:I think you're missing the part about clinging to their guns and religion, gotta throw that in there too.Chizzang wrote:This doesn't really bother me...
It is exactly the opposite type of reasoning used to build this nation
and it flies in the face of the concept of our Republic for which it stands
But when people get scared they go backwards
and I am not surprised Tennessee is scared of the rest of big scary America
Oh, and speaking of guns, Tennessee actually has a state gun - the Barrett M82/M107. I had no idea. Thank goodness they passed that bit of legislation. I haven't looked, would be fascinated to know how many states have an official state gun.
Btw, a whole bunch of guns are made in the deep blue states of CT (Colt), MA (S&W, Springfield), and NH (Sig Sauer). Somehow I doubt they'll pass state gun legislation.
Your best hope would be SC (FNH makes the M-16, M-4, M-240, and M-249 in Columbia) or GA (Glocks made in Smyrna).
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