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Re: Breaking: Maryland HS School Shooting

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Well, thank god its snowing in maryand today. Had the shooter survived he would have been easy to track down.
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Grizalltheway wrote:
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So we don't know that an AR can fire more rounds in a shorter amount of time than a handgun?
The difference in shooting a 30 round semi-AR15 vs a 15 round semi handgun is negligible reloading time for a somewhat experienced pistol shooter.
Stop managing the exceptions like this and think macro on what's driving the behavior. Parents who choose to have guns need to make them safe and inaccessible. Mental health professionals need to be made aware of potential issues so they can be addressed early. Schools and government entities need to educate that when you're bullied, etc. you don't retaliate by shooting people.
If you're going to ban anything, ban social media. That's what seems to be contributing to the bullying and making kids do stupid crap like this.
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Re: Breaking: Maryland HS School Shooting

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dbackjon wrote:
GannonFan wrote:Early reports are the kid had a handgun - not going to sit well with the folks that think banning the AR-15 is the answer.

Actually it helps. If the kid had an AR-15, there would have been deaths, and likely the School resource officers would not have been able to neutralize him.

So just the opposite - a great case for banning AR-15's
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Re: Breaking: Maryland HS School Shooting

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dbackjon wrote:
GannonFan wrote:Early reports are the kid had a handgun - not going to sit well with the folks that think banning the AR-15 is the answer.

Actually it helps. If the kid had an AR-15, there would have been deaths, and likely the School resource officers would not have been able to neutralize him.

So just the opposite - a great case for banning AR-15's
I wish just buying an AR made me a better shot.
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Re: Breaking: Maryland HS School Shooting

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GannonFan wrote:Early reports are the kid had a handgun - not going to sit well with the folks that think banning the AR-15 is the answer.
There you go again, and you know you're lying. :nod:

Nobody thinks banning civilian ownership of rapid-fire high-capacity rifles will solve the problem.

The idea is to not make it so fvcking easy to kill dozens in a short time, Mr. Let's be honest here... :ohno: :tothehand:
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Re: Breaking: Maryland HS School Shooting

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houndawg wrote:Nobody thinks banning civilian ownership of rapid-fire high-capacity rifles will solve the problem.
There you go again, and you know you're lying. :nod:

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Re: Breaking: Maryland HS School Shooting

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Winterborn wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

Actually it helps. If the kid had an AR-15, there would have been deaths, and likely the School resource officers would not have been able to neutralize him.

So just the opposite - a great case for banning AR-15's
I wish just buying an AR made me a better shot.
It does. There is no better tool for killing lots of people quickly and efficiently available to the civilian population. Fast, accurate, lightweight, low recoil.... turns a buck-and-a-quarter-soaking-wet punk into Godzilla instantaneously.
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89Hen wrote:
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There have been plenty of people saying armed personnel is schools is not part of any answer, let's be honest a little here.
This
I don’t think I’ve heard that once.
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89Hen wrote:
houndawg wrote:Nobody thinks banning civilian ownership of rapid-fire high-capacity rifles will solve the problem.
There you go again, and you know you're lying. :nod:

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89Hen wrote:
houndawg wrote:Nobody thinks banning civilian ownership of rapid-fire high-capacity rifles will solve the problem.
There you go again, and you know you're lying. :nod:

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Once again you're as usual a step behind. The reason for banning civilian ownership is to lower the body count.

Try to keep up, son. I won't always be here to help you through life.. :ohno:
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Grizalltheway wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:
So we don't know that an AR can fire more rounds in a shorter amount of time than a handgun?
Right, we don’t know that to be a fact
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andy7171 wrote:Well, thank god its snowing in maryand today. Had the shooter survived he would have been easy to track down.
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houndawg wrote:
89Hen wrote: There you go again, and you know you're lying. :nod:

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The reason for banning civilian ownership is to lower the body count.
Like in Chicago? :?
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Re: Breaking: Maryland HS School Shooting

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houndawg wrote:
Winterborn wrote:
I wish just buying an AR made me a better shot.
It does. There is no better tool for killing lots of people quickly and efficiently available to the civilian population. Fast, accurate, lightweight, low recoil.... turns a buck-and-a-quarter-soaking-wet punk into Godzilla instantaneously.
That is news to me and the paper plates I use as targets. For some reason when I go target practicing, shooting an AR does not make all my annoying shot outliers disappear.

BTW: All the adjectives you used to describe an AR, fit a pistol as well.
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kalm wrote:
89Hen wrote: This
I don’t think I’ve heard that once.
Ganny is just generalizing the near-universal opposition to arming union-pinko teachers. :coffee:
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houndawg wrote:
kalm wrote:
I don’t think I’ve heard that once.
Ganny is just generalizing the near-universal opposition to arming union-pinko teachers. :coffee:
Nope. Lots of folks saying no to arming teachers OR having armed guards. You guys have to be fishing.
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Winterborn wrote:
houndawg wrote:
It does. There is no better tool for killing lots of people quickly and efficiently available to the civilian population. Fast, accurate, lightweight, low recoil.... turns a buck-and-a-quarter-soaking-wet punk into Godzilla instantaneously.
That is news to me and the paper plates I use as targets. For some reason when I go target practicing, shooting an AR does not make all my annoying shot outliers disappear.

BTW: All the adjectives you used to describe an AR, fit a pistol as well.
Except accurate. The AR is more accurate. Sounds like the reason you can't shoot straight is more of a technique issue because other than a .22 rimfire there is nothing easier to learn to shoot well. Assuming you have good vision and are properly sighted in, of course.
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houndawg wrote:
89Hen wrote: There you go again, and you know you're lying. :nod:

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Once again you're as usual a step behind. The reason for banning civilian ownership is to lower the body count.

Try to keep up, son. I won't always be here to help you through life.. :ohno:
5 year period 2010-2014 FBI UCR
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1,530 by rifle (a fraction of which by AR-15)

2.42% of all murders by rifle
3.54% of firearms murders by rifle
And this includes all types of rifles. The scary looking semi autos that the lefties like to call ‘assault weapons’ are even lower percentages.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/20 ... 0-2014.xls

Banning them wouldn’t do squat except to make the anti gun lefties like densedawg feel better..
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89Hen wrote:
houndawg wrote:
Ganny is just generalizing the near-universal opposition to arming union-pinko teachers. :coffee:
Nope. Lots of folks saying no to arming teachers OR having armed guards. You guys have to be fishing.
Nope, very few that I hear opposed to both. Although they weren't much help at Parkland.
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GannonFan wrote:Early reports are the kid had a handgun - not going to sit well with the folks that think banning the AR-15 is the answer.
I mean, he didn't exactly get shit done it sounds like
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Grizalltheway wrote: So we don't know that an AR can fire more rounds in a shorter amount of time than a handgun?
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houndawg wrote:
Winterborn wrote:
That is news to me and the paper plates I use as targets. For some reason when I go target practicing, shooting an AR does not make all my annoying shot outliers disappear.

BTW: All the adjectives you used to describe an AR, fit a pistol as well.
Except accurate. The AR is more accurate. Sounds like the reason you can't shoot straight is more of a technique issue because other than a .22 rimfire there is nothing easier to learn to shoot well. Assuming you have good vision and are properly sighted in, of course.
A bolt gun with a $3000 optic is easier to shoot well.
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Col Hogan wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote: So we don't know that an AR can fire more rounds in a shorter amount of time than a handgun?
Right, we don’t know that to be a fact
I know it for a fact.

Mechanically the action on a handgun is shorter so it can cycle faster, throw 5 or 6 - 33 round mags in your back pocket and a handgun is superior weapon in closed quarters if you know what you are doing.
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Really? LOL

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