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Sessions fires McCabe before he can retire
WASHINGTON — Attorney General Jeff Sessions late Friday night accepted the recommendation that former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, who took the reins of the agency during the turbulent days after the abrupt firing of James Comey, be terminated — two days before he was to retire and become eligible for full pension benefits.
Unlike Trump's removal of Comey last year, which produced widespread resentment inside the FBI, McCabe's termination was recommended by the agency he served for 21 years.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justic ... re-n856751
WASHINGTON — Attorney General Jeff Sessions late Friday night accepted the recommendation that former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, who took the reins of the agency during the turbulent days after the abrupt firing of James Comey, be terminated — two days before he was to retire and become eligible for full pension benefits.
Unlike Trump's removal of Comey last year, which produced widespread resentment inside the FBI, McCabe's termination was recommended by the agency he served for 21 years.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justic ... re-n856751
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Re: MCabe Fired
Let's face it: it was a shitty thing to do, but still completely justified by the letter of the law. McCabe is the political victim of a vengeful President. This is the type of to-the-victor-goes-the-spoils action that I don't like, regardless of the idiot in charge at the time.
Sometimes you ought to be the better man and just let things go. Did I expect more from Trump? No. Of course not. This McCabe fucker getting sacked late on Friday night two days before retirement was a good bet in Vegas.
Sometimes you ought to be the better man and just let things go. Did I expect more from Trump? No. Of course not. This McCabe fucker getting sacked late on Friday night two days before retirement was a good bet in Vegas.
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I'm reading this wasn't about Trump. This started all before Trump and there was a ton of shit on McCabe.93henfan wrote:Let's face it: it was a shitty thing to do, but still completely justified by the letter of the law. McCabe is the political victim of a vengeful President. This is the type of to-the-victor-goes-the-spoils action that I don't like, regardless of the idiot in charge at the time.
Sometimes you ought to be the better man and just let things go. Did I expect more from Trump? No. Of course not. This McCabe fucker getting sacked late on Friday night two days before retirement was a good bet in Vegas.
He was part of some power clique in the FBI that was pulling crazy shit.
The agents in the FBI are happy with his firing.
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Trump - was a spiteful prick. The guy was done. He was gone. This was just vengeance. What a prick.
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Jeff spineless Sessions fired him on recommendation from the FBIs own group.Ibanez wrote:Trump - was a spiteful prick. The guy was done. He was gone. This was just vengeance. What a prick.
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While I'm sure Trump would like to make it about him, apparently it's not.
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Two people in my office in DC recently came to my agency from FBI.SeattleGriz wrote:The agents in the FBI are happy with his firing.
I respectfully dispute your quoted statement. Maybe “some” agents are happy with the Comey and McCabe firings, but not “the agents” if that implies a majority.
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Firing the guy days before he could get his pension was a dick move.
He DID get gigged for lack of candor by the IG though, and he can whine all he wants about targeting.. the IG doesn’t bullshit and IGs are notoriously nonpartisan (to many sitting administrations’ chagrin)
Back in my cop life we had a universal saying... “You lie, you die.”
I’m having a hard time being sympathetic here, but I do think it would have been easy to wait a few days to fire him
He DID get gigged for lack of candor by the IG though, and he can whine all he wants about targeting.. the IG doesn’t bullshit and IGs are notoriously nonpartisan (to many sitting administrations’ chagrin)
Back in my cop life we had a universal saying... “You lie, you die.”
I’m having a hard time being sympathetic here, but I do think it would have been easy to wait a few days to fire him
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McCabe was linked to Terry McAuliffe (who as VA governor pushed and paid for McCabe's wife Jill to run against uber-conk Dick Black for VA state senate, instead of a local dem who was well positioned to win) - who as a key member of Hilary's cabinet would certainly have pushed for McCabe to head either FBI or Justice. Yeah, this was definitely political...
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Well you are correct there... if Hillary had won Comey would have been gone (anyway) and McCabe would have been DirectorRob Iola wrote:McCabe was linked to Terry McAuliffe (who as VA governor pushed and paid for McCabe's wife Jill to run against uber-conk Dick Black for VA state senate, instead of a local dem who was well positioned to win) - who as a key member of Hilary's cabinet would certainly have pushed for McCabe to head either FBI or Justice. Yeah, this was definitely political...
Someday it would be interesting to see the communications of all the establishment Donks who went into a flurry of impromptu job hunting the day after the 2016 elections....
(Maybe we can ask Pooty Poot for that)
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I obviously don't have any contacts within, but yes, should have used some, not implied all, especially those that weren't in his clique.93henfan wrote:Two people in my office in DC recently came to my agency from FBI.SeattleGriz wrote:The agents in the FBI are happy with his firing.
I respectfully dispute your quoted statement. Maybe “some” agents are happy with the Comey and McCabe firings, but not “the agents” if that implies a majority.
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Here's McCabe's full statement:
And the only reason to do this was to strip him of his pension. They went through this whole charade and rushed it through on a Friday afternoon just to strip a career public servant of his pension because he refuses to lie for the President.
Insanity.
To be honest, I can't believe we live in a world where people have to decide who is telling the truth - FBI officials who served their country for years or a guy who lies about something he said two minutes ago.I have been an FBI Special Agent for over 21 years. I spent half of that time investigating Russian Organized Crime as a street agent and Supervisor in New York City. I have spent the second half of my career focusing on national security issues and protecting this country from terrorism. I served in some of the most challenging, demanding investigative and leadership roles in the FBI. And I was privileged to serve as Deputy Director during a particularly tough time.
For the last year and a half, my family and I have been the targets of an unrelenting assault on our reputation and my service to this country. Articles too numerous to count have leveled every sort of false, defamatory and degrading allegation against us. The President's tweets have amplified and exacerbated it all. He called for my firing. He called for me to be stripped of my pension after more than 20 years of service. And all along we have said nothing, never wanting to distract from the mission of the FBI by addressing the lies told and repeated about us.
No more.
The investigation by the Justice Department's Office of Inspector General (OIG) has to be understood in the context of the attacks on my credibility. The investigation flows from my attempt to explain the FBI's involvement and my supervision of investigations involving Hillary Clinton. I was being portrayed in the media over and over as a political partisan, accused of closing down investigations under political pressure. The FBI was portrayed as caving under that pressure, and making decisions for political rather than law enforcement purposes. Nothing was further from the truth. In fact, this entire investigation stems from my efforts, fully authorized under FBI rules, to set the record straight on behalf of the Bureau, and to make clear that we were continuing an investigation that people in DOJ opposed.
The OIG investigation has focused on information I chose to share with a reporter through my public affairs officer and a legal counselor. As Deputy Director, I was one of only a few people who had the authority to do that. It was not a secret, it took place over several days, and others, including the Director, were aware of the interaction with the reporter. It was the type of exchange with the media that the Deputy Director oversees several times per week. In fact, it was the same type of work that I continued to do under Director Wray, at his request. The investigation subsequently focused on who I talked to, when I talked to them, and so forth. During these inquiries, I answered questions truthfully and as accurately as I could amidst the chaos that surrounded me. And when I thought my answers were misunderstood, I contacted investigators to correct them.
But looking at that in isolation completely misses the big picture. The big picture is a tale of what can happen when law enforcement is politicized, public servants are attacked, and people who are supposed to cherish and protect our institutions become instruments for damaging those institutions and people.
Here is the reality: I am being singled out and treated this way because of the role I played, the actions I took, and the events I witnessed in the aftermath of the firing of James Comey. The release of this report was accelerated only after my testimony to the House Intelligence Committee revealed that I would corroborate former Director Comey's accounts of his discussions with the President. The OIG's focus on me and this report became a part of an unprecedented effort by the Administration, driven by the President himself, to remove me from my position, destroy my reputation, and possibly strip me of a pension that I worked 21 years to earn. The accelerated release of the report, and the punitive actions taken in response, make sense only when viewed through this lens. Thursday's comments from the White House are just the latest example of this.
This attack on my credibility is one part of a larger effort not just to slander me personally, but to taint the FBI, law enforcement, and intelligence professionals more generally. It is part of this Administration's ongoing war on the FBI and the efforts of the Special Counsel investigation, which continue to this day. Their persistence in this campaign only highlights the importance of the Special Counsel's work.
I have always prided myself on serving my country with distinction and integrity, and I always encouraged those around me to do the same. Just ask them. To have my career end in this way, and to be accused of lacking candor when at worst I was distracted in the midst of chaotic events, is incredibly disappointing and unfair. But it will not erase the important work I was privileged to be a part of, the results of which will in the end be revealed for the country to see.
I have unfailing faith in the men and women of the FBI and I am confident that their efforts to seek justice will not be deterred.
And the only reason to do this was to strip him of his pension. They went through this whole charade and rushed it through on a Friday afternoon just to strip a career public servant of his pension because he refuses to lie for the President.
Insanity.
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He lied under oath. You think you would get to walk away Scot free?∞∞∞ wrote:Here's McCabe's full statement:To be honest, I can't believe we live in a world where people have to decide who is telling the truth - FBI officials who served their country for years or a guy who lies about something he said two minutes ago.I have been an FBI Special Agent for over 21 years. I spent half of that time investigating Russian Organized Crime as a street agent and Supervisor in New York City. I have spent the second half of my career focusing on national security issues and protecting this country from terrorism. I served in some of the most challenging, demanding investigative and leadership roles in the FBI. And I was privileged to serve as Deputy Director during a particularly tough time.
For the last year and a half, my family and I have been the targets of an unrelenting assault on our reputation and my service to this country. Articles too numerous to count have leveled every sort of false, defamatory and degrading allegation against us. The President's tweets have amplified and exacerbated it all. He called for my firing. He called for me to be stripped of my pension after more than 20 years of service. And all along we have said nothing, never wanting to distract from the mission of the FBI by addressing the lies told and repeated about us.
No more.
The investigation by the Justice Department's Office of Inspector General (OIG) has to be understood in the context of the attacks on my credibility. The investigation flows from my attempt to explain the FBI's involvement and my supervision of investigations involving Hillary Clinton. I was being portrayed in the media over and over as a political partisan, accused of closing down investigations under political pressure. The FBI was portrayed as caving under that pressure, and making decisions for political rather than law enforcement purposes. Nothing was further from the truth. In fact, this entire investigation stems from my efforts, fully authorized under FBI rules, to set the record straight on behalf of the Bureau, and to make clear that we were continuing an investigation that people in DOJ opposed.
The OIG investigation has focused on information I chose to share with a reporter through my public affairs officer and a legal counselor. As Deputy Director, I was one of only a few people who had the authority to do that. It was not a secret, it took place over several days, and others, including the Director, were aware of the interaction with the reporter. It was the type of exchange with the media that the Deputy Director oversees several times per week. In fact, it was the same type of work that I continued to do under Director Wray, at his request. The investigation subsequently focused on who I talked to, when I talked to them, and so forth. During these inquiries, I answered questions truthfully and as accurately as I could amidst the chaos that surrounded me. And when I thought my answers were misunderstood, I contacted investigators to correct them.
But looking at that in isolation completely misses the big picture. The big picture is a tale of what can happen when law enforcement is politicized, public servants are attacked, and people who are supposed to cherish and protect our institutions become instruments for damaging those institutions and people.
Here is the reality: I am being singled out and treated this way because of the role I played, the actions I took, and the events I witnessed in the aftermath of the firing of James Comey. The release of this report was accelerated only after my testimony to the House Intelligence Committee revealed that I would corroborate former Director Comey's accounts of his discussions with the President. The OIG's focus on me and this report became a part of an unprecedented effort by the Administration, driven by the President himself, to remove me from my position, destroy my reputation, and possibly strip me of a pension that I worked 21 years to earn. The accelerated release of the report, and the punitive actions taken in response, make sense only when viewed through this lens. Thursday's comments from the White House are just the latest example of this.
This attack on my credibility is one part of a larger effort not just to slander me personally, but to taint the FBI, law enforcement, and intelligence professionals more generally. It is part of this Administration's ongoing war on the FBI and the efforts of the Special Counsel investigation, which continue to this day. Their persistence in this campaign only highlights the importance of the Special Counsel's work.
I have always prided myself on serving my country with distinction and integrity, and I always encouraged those around me to do the same. Just ask them. To have my career end in this way, and to be accused of lacking candor when at worst I was distracted in the midst of chaotic events, is incredibly disappointing and unfair. But it will not erase the important work I was privileged to be a part of, the results of which will in the end be revealed for the country to see.
I have unfailing faith in the men and women of the FBI and I am confident that their efforts to seek justice will not be deterred.
And the only reason to do this was to strip him of his pension. They went through this whole charade and rushed it through on a Friday afternoon just to strip a career public servant of his pension because he refuses to lie for the President.
Insanity.
Plus there is already discussion he can get on somewhere within the government to finish out his last couple of days and claim full pension.
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Just stop. Because Jeff "I don't recall" Sessions cites it as a reason, you believe it?SeattleGriz wrote:He lied under oath. You think you would get to walk away Scot free?
I glad McCabe is fighting back hard. This is the kind of bullshit that happens in banana republics. Patriots humiliated and thrown out like trash...criminals in power, totally out of control.
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Dude. Yeah, that makes total sense. Jeff Sessions is going to lie about McCabe lying under oath.∞∞∞ wrote:Just stop. Because Jeff "I don't recall" Sessions cites it as a reason, you believe it?SeattleGriz wrote:He lied under oath. You think you would get to walk away Scot free?
I glad McCabe is fighting back hard. This is the kind of bullshit that happens in banana republics. Patriots humiliated and thrown out like trash...criminals in power, totally out of control.
Come back off the ledge.
Plus I keep saying this is not about Trump. Apparently McCabe got himself into this situation long before Trump.
But, with that being said, both side are trying to make political hay out if it.
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No ledge. Trump is retaliating against McCabe in an effort to discredit him because he's a witness against Trump in Mueller's investigation. It's really that simple, because this is a simple-minded administration.SeattleGriz wrote:Dude. Yeah, that makes total sense. Jeff Sessions is going to lie about McCabe lying under oath.∞∞∞ wrote: Just stop. Because Jeff "I don't recall" Sessions cites it as a reason, you believe it?
I glad McCabe is fighting back hard. This is the kind of bullshit that happens in banana republics. Patriots humiliated and thrown out like trash...criminals in power, totally out of control.
Come back off the ledge.
Plus I keep saying this is not about Trump. Apparently McCabe got himself into this situation long before Trump.
Jeff Sessions has lied before, multiple times, and you still believe him. Obviously Trump's known as a vindictive person and a pathological liar...a blind man can see that. It's your prerogative, but take a step back and think of what got you to the point where you're defending known liars...over and over again.
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Criminals were going to be in power regardless of who won the last election. You're just upset that your criminals aren't in power.∞∞∞ wrote:Just stop. Because Jeff "I don't recall" Sessions cites it as a reason, you believe it?SeattleGriz wrote:He lied under oath. You think you would get to walk away Scot free?
I glad McCabe is fighting back hard. This is the kind of bullshit that happens in banana republics. Patriots humiliated and thrown out like trash...criminals in power, totally out of control.
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You're missing the histrionics in your reply. More emotion!UNI88 wrote:Criminals were going to be in power regardless of who won the last election. You're just upset that your criminals aren't in power.∞∞∞ wrote: Just stop. Because Jeff "I don't recall" Sessions cites it as a reason, you believe it?
I glad McCabe is fighting back hard. This is the kind of bullshit that happens in banana republics. Patriots humiliated and thrown out like trash...criminals in power, totally out of control.
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This isn’t a case of “he said, she said”
The IG made these findings against McCabe, end of story. There is no “who to believe”
He leaked LE sensitive info and he lied.
Take issue with Sessions’ decision to fire him, but the facts are not in dispute
The IG made these findings against McCabe, end of story. There is no “who to believe”
He leaked LE sensitive info and he lied.
Take issue with Sessions’ decision to fire him, but the facts are not in dispute
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But he was a Patriot dammit!CID1990 wrote:This isn’t a case of “he said, she said”
The IG made these findings against McCabe, end of story. There is no “who to believe”
He leaked LE sensitive info and he lied.
Take issue with Sessions’ decision to fire him, but the facts are not in dispute
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They should have released the report along with the press release.CID1990 wrote:This isn’t a case of “he said, she said”
The IG made these findings against McCabe, end of story. There is no “who to believe”
He leaked LE sensitive info and he lied.
Take issue with Sessions’ decision to fire him, but the facts are not in dispute
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I don't know if the public version is even published yetSkjellyfetti wrote:They should have released the report along with the press release.CID1990 wrote:This isn’t a case of “he said, she said”
The IG made these findings against McCabe, end of story. There is no “who to believe”
He leaked LE sensitive info and he lied.
Take issue with Sessions’ decision to fire him, but the facts are not in dispute
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Sounds like it was rushed for some reason? Hmm.CID1990 wrote:I don't know if the public version is even published yetSkjellyfetti wrote:
They should have released the report along with the press release.
The full report isn't finished, but should be released soon.
I was talking about the report Sessions was referencing here:
After an extensive and fair investigation and according to Department of Justice procedure, the Department’s Office of the Inspector General (OIG) provided its report on allegations of misconduct by Andrew McCabe to the FBI’s Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR).
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You really do have to tip your hat to Putin's Statecraft. He's playing 3D chess against Helen Keller.∞∞∞ wrote:No ledge. Trump is retaliating against McCabe in an effort to discredit him because he's a witness against Trump in Mueller's investigation. It's really that simple, because this is a simple-minded administration.SeattleGriz wrote:Dude. Yeah, that makes total sense. Jeff Sessions is going to lie about McCabe lying under oath.
Come back off the ledge.
Plus I keep saying this is not about Trump. Apparently McCabe got himself into this situation long before Trump.
Jeff Sessions has lied before, multiple times, and you still believe him. Obviously Trump's known as a vindictive person and a pathological liar...a blind man can see that. It's your prerogative, but take a step back and think of what got you to the point where you're defending known liars...over and over again.
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