Blue Wave 2018

[CAA Flagship]

Her constituents didn't seem to think so.

Then again, maybe they were biased or ill-informed. Maybe she lost b/c she didn't toe the party line and suck up to Trump like everyone seems to be doing these days.

It's just an observation. Mark Sanford did what was right for his district and the country. He was able to disagree with Trump without attacking him. It cost him his seat.

You do realize she was a Democrat?

Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

[Ibanez]

Her constituents didn't seem to think so.

Then again, maybe they were biased or ill-informed. Maybe she lost b/c she didn't toe the party line and suck up to Trump like everyone seems to be doing these days.

It's just an observation. Mark Sanford did what was right for his district and the country. He was able to disagree with Trump without attacking him. It cost him his seat.

You do realize she was a Democrat?

Yeah. I had her confused with someone else in my head.

I'm talking more in general terms. A congressperson is allowed to not follow the desires of their state or district. There are some issues which the GenPop can't possibly understand all the nuances or the issues. Many of the voters are un-informed. Should we really be catering to people that aren't engaged and just vote straight ticket each election cycle? In fact, it happens all the time. Congressmen and women confuse constituents with those that voted for them. Ralph Norman, when he votes, isn't voting based on what the Democrats and Independents in his district want. I truly believe that no politician today truly represents their constituency...just those that elected them.

[JohnStOnge]

Looks like the wave was pretty small.

"Blue Wave" is just a metaphor with no real meaning. The practical reality is the Democrats got control of the House of Representatives. The difference between them doing that and not doing that is huge.

Another thing is that there was very high turnout and the voters in toto voted against the Republicans. I'm waiting for the numbers but I heard a talking head say this morning that the margin for Democrats in the House Elections was at 7.5% and may grow as more California votes are counted. The Democrats took the House in spite of years of spectacular gerrymandering effort by Republicans. I think it's reasonable to conclude that Trump and the Republicans who have aligned themselves with him got an overall "thumbs down."

Finally the exit polling suggests trends that are not good at all for Republicans. They suggest that the Republican Party's position as depending on a shrinking, aging base has worsened. Not only did all the groups that traditionally vote Democrat vote Democrat in proportions consistent with history. Groups that have traditionally voted Republicans switched to voting majority Democrat. Dark clouds are gathering. They'd better enjoy where they are now because the future is not bright.

[93henfan]

Looks like the wave was pretty small.

"Blue Wave" is just a metaphor with no real meaning. The practical reality is the Democrats got control of the House of Representatives. The difference between them doing that and not doing that is huge.

Another thing is that there was very high turnout and the voters in toto voted against the Republicans. I'm waiting for the numbers but I heard a talking head say this morning that the margin for Democrats in the House Elections was at 7.5% and may grow as more California votes are counted. The Democrats took the House in spite of years of spectacular gerrymandering effort by Republicans. I think it's reasonable to conclude that Trump and the Republicans who have aligned themselves with him got an overall "thumbs down."

Finally the exit polling suggests trends that are not good at all for Republicans. They suggest that the Republican Party's position as depending on a shrinking, aging base has worsened. Not only did all the groups that traditionally vote Democrat vote Democrat in proportions consistent with history. Groups that have traditionally voted Republicans switched to voting majority Democrat. Dark clouds are gathering. They'd better enjoy where they are now because the future is not bright.

Nobody cares.

[Chizzang]

"Blue Wave" is just a metaphor with no real meaning. The practical reality is the Democrats got control of the House of Representatives. The difference between them doing that and not doing that is huge.

Another thing is that there was very high turnout and the voters in toto voted against the Republicans. I'm waiting for the numbers but I heard a talking head say this morning that the margin for Democrats in the House Elections was at 7.5% and may grow as more California votes are counted. The Democrats took the House in spite of years of spectacular gerrymandering effort by Republicans. I think it's reasonable to conclude that Trump and the Republicans who have aligned themselves with him got an overall "thumbs down."

Finally the exit polling suggests trends that are not good at all for Republicans. They suggest that the Republican Party's position as depending on a shrinking, aging base has worsened. Not only did all the groups that traditionally vote Democrat vote Democrat in proportions consistent with history. Groups that have traditionally voted Republicans switched to voting majority Democrat. Dark clouds are gathering. They'd better enjoy where they are now because the future is not bright.

Nobody cares.

not true... somebody cares
The re-districting and gerrymandering will all come home and land hard

It's actually fascinating

[Col Hogan]

Bye Bye Beto! ABC calls it for Ted Boobs.

$70 million+ down the drain.

I wouldn't say that. Boobs didn't win by a sweeping majority. He won by less than 2%, ~151k people.

It’s up to 2.57 per cent...a little over 200k...with 99% counted...

The percent has grown overnight, so I’m still hopeful it can reach the 4% mark...


https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2018-election-results/

[93henfan]

Nobody cares.

not true... somebody cares
The re-districting and gerrymandering will all come home and land hard

It's actually fascinating

OK. Keep an eye on that for me.

[Chizzang]

not true... somebody cares
The re-districting and gerrymandering will all come home and land hard

It's actually fascinating

OK. Keep an eye on that for me.

I thought you were in this for the long haul ?
You know.. Your Sons and children's children for generations to come..?

[Col Hogan]

Beto spent over $70 million dollars in his unsuccessful Texas Senate race...

Here’s a comparison between 2018 and 2012 for the Democrats in Texas...

US Senate for Texas

2012, Paul Sadler
Raised: $705,027
Votes: 3,194,927
$/Vote: $0.22 each

2018, Beto O'Rourke
Raised: $69,240,350+
Votes (11:33pm ET): 3,413,259+
$/Vote: $20.29 each

https://mobile.twitter.com/greg_doucett ... ips-out%2F

So, for over $20 more a vote, the Democrats got about 200k more votes...

[kalm]

Beto spent over $70 million dollars in his unsuccessful Texas Senate race...

Here’s a comparison between 2018 and 2012 for the Democrats in Texas...

US Senate for Texas

2012, Paul Sadler
Raised: $705,027
Votes: 3,194,927
$/Vote: $0.22 each

2018, Beto O'Rourke
Raised: $69,240,350+
Votes (11:33pm ET): 3,413,259+
$/Vote: $20.29 each

https://mobile.twitter.com/greg_doucett ... ips-out%2F

So, for over $20 more a vote, the Democrats got about 200k more votes...

And still can’t beat someone who’s almost as likeable as Trump.

[Skjellyfetti]

He ran without any outside PAC money. Skews the numbers as what you posted is just campaign money.

Guarantee you Sadler spent a whole lot more than $700k in 2012.

[Pwns]

"Blue Wave" is just a metaphor with no real meaning. The practical reality is the Democrats got control of the House of Representatives. The difference between them doing that and not doing that is huge.

Another thing is that there was very high turnout and the voters in toto voted against the Republicans. I'm waiting for the numbers but I heard a talking head say this morning that the margin for Democrats in the House Elections was at 7.5% and may grow as more California votes are counted. The Democrats took the House in spite of years of spectacular gerrymandering effort by Republicans. I think it's reasonable to conclude that Trump and the Republicans who have aligned themselves with him got an overall "thumbs down."

Finally the exit polling suggests trends that are not good at all for Republicans. They suggest that the Republican Party's position as depending on a shrinking, aging base has worsened. Not only did all the groups that traditionally vote Democrat vote Democrat in proportions consistent with history. Groups that have traditionally voted Republicans switched to voting majority Democrat. Dark clouds are gathering. They'd better enjoy where they are now because the future is not bright.

JSO, you've got a president that is historically unpopular in his first midterm, and Democrats only made a relatively small splash.

The only thing the new House will do is unite the GOP and force them to circle the wagon around Trump, and elevate a very unpopular Speaker of the House that will create blame diffusion for anything bad that happens.

Plus, we know the House Dems will do whatever they can to sabotage their chances. Trump's chances of getting reelected just went up.

[93henfan]

OK. Keep an eye on that for me.

I thought you were in this for the long haul ?
You know.. Your Sons and children's children for generations to come..?

Unfortunately, I produced white male offspring, so yeah, I know they're fucked. The main unstated platform of the Democratic Party is retribution against such evil white males. You know, because those of us born in the 70s held slaves.

[Winterborn]

Nobody cares.

not true... somebody cares
The re-districting and gerrymandering will all come home and land hard

It's actually fascinating

I think you are both right. People should care but outside of a few armchair political experts (some on this board), real political science folks, and the parties themselves, the average person doesn't give worth what it means.

A good example might be the next time you are in your regular coffee shop, ask a regular you haven't talked to before and that you will see again, what they know of gerrymandering and give them a brief overview of what it is when they answer they don't know. Then ask them a week from then. My guess is they will remember probably just the name and maybe that the districts resemble snakes (if you use that analogy). They also might remember a distinguished, nicely dressed, older gentlemen (I am assuming you are retirement age or close to it and by your writings you sound old. ) talking to them about it.

But when compared to what their favorite sports team is doing, the weather, or whatever else maybe a priority in their life, it probably doesn't even enter their thoughts.

[kalm]

He ran without any outside PAC money. Skews the numbers as what you posted is just campaign money.

Guarantee you Sadler spent a whole lot more than $700k in 2012.

O’Rourke also kept it close while running to the left.

[CAA Flagship]

He ran without any outside PAC money. Skews the numbers as what you posted is just campaign money.

Guarantee you Sadler spent a whole lot more than $700k in 2012.

O’Rourke also kept it close while running to the left.

Meh. He was running against Boobs.

I think one of the shocking results was Nelson being so close to Scott in Florida. That should not have been close.
I'm thinking that was overspray voting from the Gillum crowd. That's all I can come up with.

[Col Hogan]

He ran without any outside PAC money. Skews the numbers as what you posted is just campaign money.

Guarantee you Sadler spent a whole lot more than $700k in 2012.

It’s funny that you believe no PAC money supported Beto in Texas...

I had to sit through the TV ads and mailers from left-wing PACs ...are you saying those folks did not support Beto, with a wink and a nod???

[Skjellyfetti]

You aren't understanding what I'm saying

[kalm]

O’Rourke also kept it close while running to the left.

Meh. He was running against Boobs.

So did Sadler.

[Ibanez]

He ran without any outside PAC money. Skews the numbers as what you posted is just campaign money.

Guarantee you Sadler spent a whole lot more than $700k in 2012.

It’s funny that you believe no PAC money supported Beto in Texas...

I had to sit through the TV ads and mailers from left-wing PACs ...are you saying those folks did not support Beto, with a wink and a nod???

I think he's talking about Sadler

[CAA Flagship]

Meh. He was running against Boobs.

So did Sadler.

Cruz wasn't as "known" then.

[houndawg]

Beto spent over $70 million dollars in his unsuccessful Texas Senate race...

Here’s a comparison between 2018 and 2012 for the Democrats in Texas...

US Senate for Texas

2012, Paul Sadler
Raised: $705,027
Votes: 3,194,927
$/Vote: $0.22 each

2018, Beto O'Rourke
Raised: $69,240,350+
Votes (11:33pm ET): 3,413,259+
$/Vote: $20.29 each

https://mobile.twitter.com/greg_doucett ... ips-out%2F

So, for over $20 more a vote, the Democrats got about 200k more votes...

He beat the spread against truckloads of dark money.

[houndawg]

I thought you were in this for the long haul ?
You know.. Your Sons and children's children for generations to come..?

Unfortunately, I produced white male offspring, so yeah, I know they're ****. The main unstated platform of the Democratic Party is retribution against such evil white males. You know, because those of us born in the 70s held slaves.

..ever the victim...

[93henfan]

Unfortunately, I produced white male offspring, so yeah, I know they're ****. The main unstated platform of the Democratic Party is retribution against such evil white males. You know, because those of us born in the 70s held slaves.

..ever the victim...

Hey, I can't control the hate of the left.

[kalm]

So did Sadler.

Cruz wasn't as "known" then.

That shouldn't have been a disadvantage.