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So which is worse? Getting a military fighter plane numbers wrong or repeatedly calling those that serve corpsemen?
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JohnStOnge wrote:It was a stupid thing to say because it plays into the thing about him being a racist. It was particularly stupid to pick Norway as the contrasting example.
FWIW, apparently he had just met with the PM of Norway the day before so it was probably top of mind. Still looked bad.
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Ibanez wrote:So...where's the actual proof that he said it?
I'm sure he did.

BTW, last night was the first time I can ever remember a network news broadcast (local or national) deciding it was necessary to use/report one of the "seven".

Who will ever forget this one...

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"Shithole" is an anagram for "his hotel." :coffee:
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Politicians say all kind of stuff these days. Trump's poorly timed comment here is very akin to Hillary's "deplorable" comment - politicians writing off whole swaths of people on a whim. There's a reason I didn't vote for either of them in the past election. If you didn't get upset about the earlier comment I don't see how you can get upset about this one.
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89Hen wrote:
Ibanez wrote:So...where's the actual proof that he said it?
I'm sure he did.

BTW, last night was the first time I can ever remember a network news broadcast (local or national) deciding it was necessary to use/report one of the "seven".

Who will ever forget this one...

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I believe he said it (or something close to it). I'm really interested in who the source was. I haven't heard yet - then again i've been in meetings this morning and have only read a brief article on this.
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89Hen wrote:
Ibanez wrote:So...where's the actual proof that he said it?
I'm sure he did.

BTW, last night was the first time I can ever remember a network news broadcast (local or national) deciding it was necessary to use/report one of the "seven".

Who will ever forget this one...

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I Just watched that.... :lol: Looks (sounds) legit. :thumb:
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Ibanez wrote:I believe he said it (or something close to it). I'm really interested in who the source was. I haven't heard yet - then again i've been in meetings this morning and have only read a brief article on this.
It was a joint meeting with Reps and Dems... plenty of people who would do it.
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89Hen wrote:
Ibanez wrote:I believe he said it (or something close to it). I'm really interested in who the source was. I haven't heard yet - then again i've been in meetings this morning and have only read a brief article on this.
It was a joint meeting with Reps and Dems... plenty of people who would do it.
Like I said - I believe it. Trump is his own worst enemy - bigly.
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Can't find the meme, but it was spot on. It essentially was pointing out the double standard on how the left (before this) says we cannot send the immigrants back to their home countries because they are shit holes, for that would be mean to them!
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HI54UNI wrote:Truth hurts. What skills or benefit do they bring to the US? They just bring the shithole part with them.
You mean like this guy from Shithole Ghana?

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Pretty much everyone emigrated to the US because their country/area was a shithole at the time. It is usually the best and the brighest that have the willpower to leave and make a better life. These are exactly the people we want.
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SeattleGriz wrote:Can't find the meme, but it was spot on. It essentially was pointing out the double standard on how the left (before this) says we cannot send the immigrants back to their home countries because they are shit holes, for that would be mean to them!
good lord are you that dense?
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GannonFan wrote:Politicians say all kind of stuff these days. Trump's poorly timed comment here is very akin to Hillary's "deplorable" comment - politicians writing off whole swaths of people on a whim. There's a reason I didn't vote for either of them in the past election. If you didn't get upset about the earlier comment I don't see how you can get upset about this one.

That is not even on the same planet. As the leader of the free world (well, for now), you can't say those things out loud.

And he wasn't just calling them shitholes, he was questioning why we want them, as opposed to white people. It was a racist comment from a racist President.
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dbackjon wrote:
GannonFan wrote:Politicians say all kind of stuff these days. Trump's poorly timed comment here is very akin to Hillary's "deplorable" comment - politicians writing off whole swaths of people on a whim. There's a reason I didn't vote for either of them in the past election. If you didn't get upset about the earlier comment I don't see how you can get upset about this one.

That is not even on the same planet. As the leader of the free world (well, for now), you can't say those things out loud.

And he wasn't just calling them shitholes, he was questioning why we want them, as opposed to white people. It was a racist comment from a racist President.
You're predisposed to think that Jon so it only fueled your fire.
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dbackjon wrote:
GannonFan wrote:Politicians say all kind of stuff these days. Trump's poorly timed comment here is very akin to Hillary's "deplorable" comment - politicians writing off whole swaths of people on a whim. There's a reason I didn't vote for either of them in the past election. If you didn't get upset about the earlier comment I don't see how you can get upset about this one.

That is not even on the same planet. As the leader of the free world (well, for now), you can't say those things out loud.

And he wasn't just calling them shitholes, he was questioning why we want them, as opposed to white people. It was a racist comment from a racist President.
Like I said, partisans like you tend to view the political world through your own political lens, and if often ignores things you don't want to acknowledge. Is Trump a racist? I wouldn't doubt it. Is what he said racist? Maybe, depending on what he actually said. I'm pretty sure he said the ****hole comment. Is he a bad President? Absolutely. Would I ever vote for him? Never. But what Hillary said in the run-up to the election, and she was a member of this government for decades at that point and was attempting to be the leader of the country, is also something that you just can't say out loud. If you can't see that then you are a partisan.
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dbackjon wrote:
GannonFan wrote:Politicians say all kind of stuff these days. Trump's poorly timed comment here is very akin to Hillary's "deplorable" comment - politicians writing off whole swaths of people on a whim. There's a reason I didn't vote for either of them in the past election. If you didn't get upset about the earlier comment I don't see how you can get upset about this one.

That is not even on the same planet. As the leader of the free world (well, for now), you can't say those things out loud.

And he wasn't just calling them shitholes, he was questioning why we want them, as opposed to white people. It was a racist comment from a racist President.
He should've used DNC approved language like " deplorable" or "super predator."
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GannonFan wrote:Like I said, partisans like you tend to view the political world through your own political lens, and if often ignores things you don't want to acknowledge. Is Trump a racist? I wouldn't doubt it. Is what he said racist? Maybe, depending on what he actually said. I'm pretty sure he said the ****hole comment. Is he a bad President? Absolutely. Would I ever vote for him? Never. But what Hillary said in the run-up to the election, and she was a member of this government for decades at that point and was attempting to be the leader of the country, is also something that you just can't say out loud. If you can't see that then you are a partisan.
Some of my liberal friends on FB are reposting Dick Durbin's comments verifying Trump made the shithole comments (I don't see any way he didn't) and praising him. I'm hoping they stopped listening before he said: "I have a singular mission, and the mission is this: to give these dreamers and as many members of their family as possible a chance to be part of America's future in a legal status."

Is this really what people want? :suspicious:
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89Hen wrote:
GannonFan wrote:Like I said, partisans like you tend to view the political world through your own political lens, and if often ignores things you don't want to acknowledge. Is Trump a racist? I wouldn't doubt it. Is what he said racist? Maybe, depending on what he actually said. I'm pretty sure he said the ****hole comment. Is he a bad President? Absolutely. Would I ever vote for him? Never. But what Hillary said in the run-up to the election, and she was a member of this government for decades at that point and was attempting to be the leader of the country, is also something that you just can't say out loud. If you can't see that then you are a partisan.
Some of my liberal friends on FB are reposting Dick Durbin's comments verifying Trump made the shithole comments (I don't see any way he didn't) and praising him. I'm hoping they stopped listening before he said: "I have a singular mission, and the mission is this: to give these dreamers and as many members of their family as possible a chance to be part of America's future in a legal status."

Is this really what people want? :suspicious:
It depends who they'll vote for. These days nothing else really matters to political types and their partisans than if they can win elections. Doesn't matter what you do when you're there, it's all about the power.
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dbackjon wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Can't find the meme, but it was spot on. It essentially was pointing out the double standard on how the left (before this) says we cannot send the immigrants back to their home countries because they are shit holes, for that would be mean to them!
good lord are you that dense?
...and? Ad hominems without even a reply is bigotry!
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Honest Question: Who was it that allowed this comment to become public? I'm guessing it's a Democrat or someone from the media. We're apparently gravely concerned about how Trump is alienating allies but apparently have no problem letting this get out (probably for political gain). This is like something that you'd expect to come out from Wikileaks.
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
HI54UNI wrote:Truth hurts. What skills or benefit do they bring to the US? They just bring the shithole part with them.
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Good and valuable people can come from shitholes.

The only question is our moral obligation to provide them refuge. If we have one, where do you draw the line?
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Pwns wrote:I disagree with Trump. I say we take the smartest folks in sub-Saharan Africa and trade them for black lives matter. That means we get skilled immigrants and BLM doesn't have to suffer another day of systemic racism in Amerikkka. Win-win.
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Ibanez wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

That is not even on the same planet. As the leader of the free world (well, for now), you can't say those things out loud.

And he wasn't just calling them shitholes, he was questioning why we want them, as opposed to white people. It was a racist comment from a racist President.
He should've used DNC approved language like " deplorable" or "super predator."
Attacking white people is perfectly fine, good point Ibanez you fucking cracker!
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kalm wrote:Good and valuable people can come from shitholes.

The only question is our moral obligation to provide them refuge. If we have one, where do you draw the line?
They can come legally, its the law and it needs to be enforced.

Anyone that agrees with a free flowing border should be thrown in jail for an attack on America. NOBODY has a problem with anyone coming here legally. So stop the semantics.
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