Vegas massacre

expandspanos · Post by **expandspanos** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:34 pm

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Brother Seems Reputable.

Post by **Col Hogan** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:16 pm

Skjellyfetti wrote:Too much money to waste betting on this Congress to do anything. Especially on gun control.

Gun manufacturers after mass shootings:

The local cbs affiliate did a story that shocked...SHOCKED...the reporter...

Apparently Gun sales are NOT up, as following other mass shootings...

The owner was not surprised...as he does not expect any real restrictions to come out of Congress...

Regarding money, unions contribute much more to Dems than the NRA gives to Congress-critters on both sides...so we know who has the dems locked up...

Skjellyfetti · Post by **Skjellyfetti** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:13 pm

Sounds like he was trying to blow up two jet fuel tanks across the street from the festival.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/the ... urce-says/

ALPHAGRIZ1 · Post by **ALPHAGRIZ1** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:27 pm

Fuel tanks like that in the open are very very dangerous, we should probably ban fossil fuels.................

ALPHAGRIZ1 · Post by **ALPHAGRIZ1** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:36 pm

93 hit it out if the park when he commented on how bad a shot this guy was. 23 guns in the room.....if he launched 60 rounds out of each of them that's 1380 rounds.

He only killed 58.

This almost shouldn't be a news story unless they are making fun of how bad this guy shoots. Pathetic

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houndawg · Post by **houndawg** » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:41 am

Pwns wrote:Hillary Clinton on twitter:

"Imagine the deaths if the shooter had a silencer, which the NRA wants to make easier to get."

Do people think silencers work they way they do in James Bond movies?

I heard this silencer has an extra large magazine that goes to 11.

houndawg · Post by **houndawg** » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:52 am

kalm wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Yes,
And Saudi Arabia has an open economy and exercises free market commerce
It says so right in their constitution

Saudi Arabia is a free capitalist nation
ask anybody

and the Nazi's were socialist
and China is a Communist Country where all citizens are treated equally

It's easy John - every country is what they say they are
Louisiana is the home of "Union, Justice, and Confidence".

"Where everything smells like piss"

CID1990 · Post by **CID1990** » Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:48 am

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:93 hit it out if the park when he commented on how bad a shot this guy was. 23 guns in the room.....if he launched 60 rounds out of each of them that's 1380 rounds.

He only killed 58.

This almost shouldn't be a news story unless they are making fun of how bad this guy shoots. Pathetic

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I don't think he was really aiming at individual targets. It seems like he was just pointing into the crowd an firing. At the range he was at nobody is going to be very accurate at that rate of fire.

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Post by **93henfan** » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:50 am

Skjellyfetti wrote:Sounds like he was trying to blow up two jet fuel tanks across the street from the festival.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/the ... urce-says/

I’ve often thought about the safety of those tanks. A 50 caliber round can easily penetrate 10 or 12 gauge steel, and likely both sheets in a double walled tank. Luckily in this case, in was a jet fuel tank. Jet A is not that much different from diesel fuel, and both have very high flash points that don’t respond to sparking.

I’m much more concerned about propane and lp storage. Those tanks could most definitely be used at secondary weapons in a scenario like this.

Chizzang · Post by **Chizzang** » Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:20 am

93henfan wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Sounds like he was trying to blow up two jet fuel tanks across the street from the festival.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/the ... urce-says/
I’ve often thought about the safety of those tanks. A 50 caliber round can easily penetrate 10 or 12 gauge steel, and likely both sheets in a double walled tank. Luckily in this case, in was a jet fuel tank. Jet A is not that much different from diesel fuel, and both have very high flash points that don’t respond to sparking.

I’m much more concerned about propane and lp storage. Those tanks could most definitely be used at secondary weapons in a scenario like this.

Yup...
You can drop a lit match into a pool of Jet A and nothing.... pfffft....
a bullet wouldn't do a damned thing

BDKJMU · Post by **BDKJMU** » Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:57 am

CID1990 wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:93 hit it out if the park when he commented on how bad a shot this guy was. 23 guns in the room.....if he launched 60 rounds out of each of them that's 1380 rounds.

He only killed 58.

This almost shouldn't be a news story unless they are making fun of how bad this guy shoots. Pathetic

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I don't think he was really aiming at individual targets. It seems like he was just pointing into the crowd an firing. At the range he was at nobody is going to be very accurate at that rate of fire.

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Yep. If the guy fired around 1400 rounds in about 10 min and hit about 580 people, killing 59 (60 deceased now- 59 + shooter) and 527? wounded that's about a 40+% hit rate from around 400 yards. Sure if he had been shooting semi auto using the scopes or even just iron sights he could have had way more accuracy wih a higher % hit rate, and maybe more killed, but way less lead down range in 10 min, and way less people overall hit. This guy now holds what I assume has to be the world record in people shot by 1 shooter in one setting (maybe not for the # killed, I don't know), and that's going to be hard to top. Heck, even someone with a SAW and 1400 rounds (or however many rounds this got got off) would have a hard time hitting that many people from that distance in 10 min..

BDKJMU · Post by **BDKJMU** » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:02 am

Timeline released last night by Clark County Sheriff's Dept:

"10:05 p.m.: First shots fired by the suspect. This was seen on closed-circuit television from the concert venue.

10:12 p.m.: First two officers arrive on the 31st floor and announce the gunfire is coming from directly above them.

10:15 p.m.: The last shots are fired from the suspect per body-worn cameras.

10:17 p.m.: The first two officers arrive on the 32nd floor.

10:18 p.m.: Security officer tells LVMPD officers he was shot and gives exact location of the suspect's room.

10:26-10:30 p.m.: Eight additional officers arrive on the 32nd floor and begin to move systematically down the hallway, clearing every room and looking for any injured people. They move this way because they no longer hear the gunfire of an active shooter.

10:55 p.m.: Eight officers arrive in the stairwell at the opposite end of the hallway nearest to the suspect's room.

11:20 p.m.: The first breach is set off and officers enter the room. They observe the suspect down on the ground and also see a second door that could not be accessed from their position.

11:27 p.m.: The second breach is set off, allowing officers to access the second room. Officers quickly realize there is no one else in the rooms and announce over the radio that the suspect is down."
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-las-ve ... story.html

BDKJMU · Post by **BDKJMU** » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:03 am

Interesting reads on the guy's gambling habits and the world of video poker. Some of this stuff I don't know about, but then again, I'm not a gambler..
https://nytimes.com/2017/10/04/us/steph ... l?referer=
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -hour.html

Post by **93henfan** » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:30 am

BDKJMU wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
I don't think he was really aiming at individual targets. It seems like he was just pointing into the crowd an firing. At the range he was at nobody is going to be very accurate at that rate of fire.

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Yep. If the guy fired around 1400 rounds in about 10 min and hit about 580 people, killing 59 (60 deceased now- 59 + shooter) and 527? wounded that's about a 40+% hit rate from around 400 yards. Sure if he had been shooting semi auto using the scopes or even just iron sights he could have had way more accuracy wih a higher % hit rate, and maybe more killed, but way less lead down range in 10 min, and way less people overall hit. This guy now holds what I assume has to be the world record in people shot by 1 shooter in one setting (maybe not for the # killed, I don't know), and that's going to be hard to top. Heck, even someone with a SAW and 1400 rounds (or however many rounds this got got off) would have a hard time hitting that many people from that distance in 10 min..

I carried the SAW quite a bit. I would have beaten him, especially with two barrels and 20% tracers. Work outside in. Pile up the bodies at the egresses. Would have been a big pile of hamburger. If you had a buddy with the same and could run talking guns, whew baby.

But, this guy did good work with the tools he had. Sick work, but proficient nonetheless.

BDKJMU · Post by **BDKJMU** » Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:14 pm

"....Stephen Paddock's potential targets included the most recent Lollapalooza festival in Chicago, which was held Aug. 3 to Aug. 6 in Grant Park, the officials said. Paddock, 64, went as far as booking a room in a Chicago hotel but did not show up, the officials said. Among the thousands of people who attended the festival was Malia Obama, daughter of former President Barack Obama.

He also researched hotels around Boston's Fenway Park, a senior law enforcement official with direct knowledge of the matter told NBC News. Most hotels in the area, however, have an obstructed view of Fenway — or no view at all......"
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-v ... ay-n808011

"Authorities are investigating whether Stephen Paddock rented several units at a luxury high-rise overlooking a bigger music festival the weekend before he slaughtered concert-goers outside a Las Vegas casino, a law enforcement source told NBC News.

The 64-year-old gambler had his eye on The Ogden, a 21-story tower in downtown, the source said....

...The north side of the condo complex overlooked the main stage for the three-day Life is Beautiful festival held Sept. 22-24 and featuring big musical names like Chance the Rapper, Lorde and Wiz Khalifa. An estimated 50,000 fans attended each day."....."
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-v ... al-n807236

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:45 pm

I'm more convinced every day that everyone's suspicion about his brother's ignorance is real.

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Post by **dbackjon** » Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:49 pm

BDKJMU wrote:"....Stephen Paddock's potential targets included the most recent Lollapalooza festival in Chicago, which was held Aug. 3 to Aug. 6 in Grant Park, the officials said. Paddock, 64, went as far as booking a room in a Chicago hotel but did not show up, the officials said. Among the thousands of people who attended the festival was Malia Obama, daughter of former President Barack Obama.

He also researched hotels around Boston's Fenway Park, a senior law enforcement official with direct knowledge of the matter told NBC News. Most hotels in the area, however, have an obstructed view of Fenway — or no view at all......"
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-v ... ay-n808011

"Authorities are investigating whether Stephen Paddock rented several units at a luxury high-rise overlooking a bigger music festival the weekend before he slaughtered concert-goers outside a Las Vegas casino, a law enforcement source told NBC News.

The 64-year-old gambler had his eye on The Ogden, a 21-story tower in downtown, the source said....

...The north side of the condo complex overlooked the main stage for the three-day Life is Beautiful festival held Sept. 22-24 and featuring big musical names like Chance the Rapper, Lorde and Wiz Khalifa. An estimated 50,000 fans attended each day."....."
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-v ... al-n807236

But I thought George Soros paid him to kill rednecks. Why would he scope out anything but country festivals?

BDKJMU · Post by **BDKJMU** » Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:58 pm

dbackjon wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:"....Stephen Paddock's potential targets included the most recent Lollapalooza festival in Chicago, which was held Aug. 3 to Aug. 6 in Grant Park, the officials said. Paddock, 64, went as far as booking a room in a Chicago hotel but did not show up, the officials said. Among the thousands of people who attended the festival was Malia Obama, daughter of former President Barack Obama.

He also researched hotels around Boston's Fenway Park, a senior law enforcement official with direct knowledge of the matter told NBC News. Most hotels in the area, however, have an obstructed view of Fenway — or no view at all......"
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-v ... ay-n808011

"Authorities are investigating whether Stephen Paddock rented several units at a luxury high-rise overlooking a bigger music festival the weekend before he slaughtered concert-goers outside a Las Vegas casino, a law enforcement source told NBC News.

The 64-year-old gambler had his eye on The Ogden, a 21-story tower in downtown, the source said....

...The north side of the condo complex overlooked the main stage for the three-day Life is Beautiful festival held Sept. 22-24 and featuring big musical names like Chance the Rapper, Lorde and Wiz Khalifa. An estimated 50,000 fans attended each day."....."
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-v ... al-n807236

But I thought George Soros paid him to kill rednecks. Why would he scope out anything but country festivals?

So people who go to country music festivals are all rednecks? Are people who go to alternative music festivals all fags?

ALPHAGRIZ1 · Post by **ALPHAGRIZ1** » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:36 pm

BDKJMU wrote:"....Stephen Paddock's potential targets included the most recent Lollapalooza festival in Chicago, which was held Aug. 3 to Aug. 6 in Grant Park, the officials said. Paddock, 64, went as far as booking a room in a Chicago hotel but did not show up, the officials said. Among the thousands of people who attended the festival was Malia Obama, daughter of former President Barack Obama.

He also researched hotels around Boston's Fenway Park, a senior law enforcement official with direct knowledge of the matter told NBC News. Most hotels in the area, however, have an obstructed view of Fenway — or no view at all......"
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-v ... ay-n808011

"Authorities are investigating whether Stephen Paddock rented several units at a luxury high-rise overlooking a bigger music festival the weekend before he slaughtered concert-goers outside a Las Vegas casino, a law enforcement source told NBC News.

The 64-year-old gambler had his eye on The Ogden, a 21-story tower in downtown, the source said....

...The north side of the condo complex overlooked the main stage for the three-day Life is Beautiful festival held Sept. 22-24 and featuring big musical names like Chance the Rapper, Lorde and Wiz Khalifa. An estimated 50,000 fans attended each day."....."
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-v ... al-n807236

So we need more airplane legislation........this psycho shouldn't be able to buy plane tickets to plan and scout for this horrific shit!

The outrage needs to come from all of us!!!

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houndawg · Post by **houndawg** » Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:40 pm

BDKJMU wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

But I thought George Soros paid him to kill rednecks. Why would he scope out anything but country festivals?
So people who go to country music festivals are all rednecks? Are people who go to alternative music festivals all fags?

That dreck is not country music...... sh**ty rock with a fiddle on top.

Post by **AZGrizFan** » Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:22 pm

houndawg wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: So people who go to country music festivals are all rednecks? Are people who go to alternative music festivals all fags?
That dreck is not country music...... sh**ty rock with a fiddle on top.

You shouldn't offend rock music like that.

Post by **93henfan** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:26 am

Col Hogan wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Too much money to waste betting on this Congress to do anything. Especially on gun control.

Gun manufacturers after mass shootings:

The local cbs affiliate did a story that shocked...SHOCKED...the reporter...

Apparently Gun sales are NOT up, as following other mass shootings...

The owner was not surprised...as he does not expect any real restrictions to come out of Congress...

Regarding money, unions contribute much more to Dems than the NRA gives to Congress-critters on both sides...so we know who has the dems locked up...

I think a lot of gun enthusiasts have purchase fatigue from the past nine years. Obama was the best gun salesman of all time.

Moreso than any mass shooting, the next yuge gun splurge will be when/if the dems ever win back a majority in Congress. That Nov-Jan buying spree will be nuts.

Post by **93henfan** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:38 am

expandspanos wrote:
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Brother Seems Reputable.

It is quite interesting at 14:50 of that video where the brother says, "Steve was an arm...", and then abruptly catches himself, looks startled, and then quickly covers and changes the subject.

Hmmmmm. I could see where the conspiracy theorists are going to have a field day with that.

Was he going to say, "Steve was an arms dealer for the fedral gubmint"?

Post by **Col Hogan** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:46 am

93henfan wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
The local cbs affiliate did a story that shocked...SHOCKED...the reporter...

Apparently Gun sales are NOT up, as following other mass shootings...

The owner was not surprised...as he does not expect any real restrictions to come out of Congress...

Regarding money, unions contribute much more to Dems than the NRA gives to Congress-critters on both sides...so we know who has the dems locked up...
I think a lot of gun enthusiasts have purchase fatigue from the past nine years. Obama was the best gun salesman of all time.

Moreso than any mass shooting, the next yuge gun splurge will be when/if the dems ever win back a majority in Congress. That Nov-Jan buying spree will be nuts.

I’m giving up...all my guns were stolen...I’m joining that guy out in Phoenix who turned in his guns to the police to start a movement towards total disarmament of citizens...

Only the police need guns...

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:37 am

93henfan wrote:
expandspanos wrote:
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Brother Seems Reputable.

It is quite interesting at 14:50 of that video where the brother says, "Steve was an arm...", and then abruptly catches himself, looks startled, and then quickly covers and changes the subject.

Hmmmmm. I could see where the conspiracy theorists are going to have a field day with that.

Was he going to say, "Steve was an arms dealer for the fedral gubmint"?

Guessing he was going for "army of one".

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