You do realize, in this as in all prior Red Scares in this country, there were actual, factual, Russian/Communist activities that were illegal and were uncovered as a result of investigating? You probably don't, which is cool. The "Scare" part was the extrapolation afterwards well past the original transgressions, and that were the result of unfounded paranoia on the part of those with an ax to grind. I'm sure you are well aware of that part.Skjellyfetti wrote:Even the Trump administration is catching Red Scare fever.
Or, I guess it's just Deep Staters that have infiltrated the executive branch?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/15/us/p ... &smtyp=curThe Trump administration accused Russia on Thursday of engineering a series of cyberattacks that targeted American and European nuclear power plants and water and electric systems, and could have sabotaged or shut power plants off at will.
United States officials and private security firms saw the attacks as a signal by Moscow that it could disrupt the West’s critical facilities in the event of a conflict.
They said the strikes accelerated in late 2015, at the same time the Russian interference in the American election was underway. The attackers successfully had compromised some operators in North America and Europe by spring 2017, after President Trump was inaugurated.
In the following months, according to a Department of Homeland Security report issued on Thursday, Russian hackers made their way to machines with access to critical control systems at power plants that were not identified. The hackers never went so far as to sabotage or shut down the computer systems that guide the operations of the plants.
Still, new computer screenshots released by the Department of Homeland Security on Thursday made clear that Russian state hackers had the foothold they would have needed to manipulate or shut down power plants.
“We now have evidence they’re sitting on the machines, connected to industrial control infrastructure, that allow them to effectively turn the power off or affect sabotage,” said Eric Chien, a security technology director at Symantec, a digital security firm.
“From what we can see, they were there. They have the ability to shut the power off. All that’s missing is some political motivation,” Mr. Chien said.
American intelligence agencies were aware of the attacks for the past year and a half, and the Department of Homeland Security and the F.B.I. first issued urgent warnings to utility companies in June. On Thursday, both agencies offered new details as the Trump administration imposed sanctions against Russian individuals and organizations it accused of election meddling and “malicious cyberattacks.”
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Give him his wisecracksGannonFan wrote:You do realize, in this as in all prior Red Scares in this country, there were actual, factual, Russian/Communist activities that were illegal and were uncovered as a result of investigating? You probably don't, which is cool. The "Scare" part was the extrapolation afterwards well past the original transgressions, and that were the result of unfounded paranoia on the part of those with an ax to grind. I'm sure you are well aware of that part.Skjellyfetti wrote:Even the Trump administration is catching Red Scare fever.
Or, I guess it's just Deep Staters that have infiltrated the executive branch?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/15/us/p ... &smtyp=cur
After the beatings he's taken in the last few months its the humane thing to do
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So, what is it that you're talking about?GannonFan wrote: You do realize, in this as in all prior Red Scares in this country, there were actual, factual, Russian/Communist activities that were illegal and were uncovered as a result of investigating? You probably don't, which is cool. The "Scare" part was the extrapolation afterwards well past the original transgressions, and that were the result of unfounded paranoia on the part of those with an ax to grind. I'm sure you are well aware of that part.
Russia launching an information war against us in 2016 (that continues)? That's the way Rosenstein described it and how the perpetrators described it.
Russia hacking into critical infrastructure?
I assume you're referring to the Mueller investigation? You really think that's similar in any way, shape, or form to McCarthy's "investigation"? You think Mueller is going to go down as a modern-day McCarthy? L-O-L. Good luck with that.
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Still waiting on that collusion....
In other news, how close will Mueller get to Trump’s real estate dealings or taxes before Trump fires him?
In other news, how close will Mueller get to Trump’s real estate dealings or taxes before Trump fires him?
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I want to know what JellyBelly’s Russian spouse — of whatever gender — thinks about all this crap.
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She's apolitical and a nihilist to the extreme - like most Russians. Her reaction to this stuff is usually "well, y'all should have protected yourself better. Y'all shouldn't be so gullible and easy to troll" etc. And, she's right. She's also the only Russian I know that uses y'all.
Her dad is a United Russia and Putin true believer, though. Hated Obama. Loves Trump. He's also a shashlik master.
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Got Novichok?Skjellyfetti wrote:She's apolitical and a nihilist to the extreme - like most Russians. Her reaction to this stuff is usually "well, y'all should have protected yourself better. Y'all shouldn't be so gullible and easy to troll" etc. And, she's right. She's also the only Russian I know that uses y'all.
Her dad is a United Russia and Putin true believer, though. Hated Obama. Loves Trump. He's also a shashlik master.
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Cute.Skjellyfetti wrote:She's apolitical and a nihilist to the extreme - like most Russians. Her reaction to this stuff is usually "well, y'all should have protected yourself better. Y'all shouldn't be so gullible and easy to troll" etc. And, she's right. She's also the only Russian I know that uses y'all.
Her dad is a United Russia and Putin true believer, though. Hated Obama. Loves Trump. He's also a shashlik master.
Though- I’d have her shave the beard.
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McCabe fired before retirement. Nice.
Of course it was the Obama appointed IG that had it out for him.
Although the firing was supposedly from crap that had transpired long before Trump.
Of course it was the Obama appointed IG that had it out for him.
Although the firing was supposedly from crap that had transpired long before Trump.
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SK.... I thought you were a fag.Skjellyfetti wrote:She's apolitical and a nihilist to the extreme - like most Russians. Her reaction to this stuff is usually "well, y'all should have protected yourself better. Y'all shouldn't be so gullible and easy to troll" etc. And, she's right. She's also the only Russian I know that uses y'all.
Her dad is a United Russia and Putin true believer, though. Hated Obama. Loves Trump. He's also a shashlik master.
That’s a good looking woman you got there. And probably a fun FIL to drink with.
If you go back to being a fag can I have them?
Just kidding dude
No seriously, if you decide to be a faggot again give me their digits
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Yeah, he's fun as hell. Been trying to get him to the states - but, his visa keeps getting denied. Put in a word for him?
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If I was Hillary Clinton I would do itSkjellyfetti wrote:Yeah, he's fun as hell. Been trying to get him to the states - but, his visa keeps getting denied. Put in a word for him?
Alas, the rules apply to me
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Good read.CID1990 wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/16/opin ... %2Fopinion
The recent poisoning was too obvious. If Putin ordered it, it would seem like an intentional ‘fuck you’.
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Of course it was done in such a way to make it not only obvious that the Russians did it, but to also show Putin personally ordered itkalm wrote:Good read.CID1990 wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/16/opin ... %2Fopinion
The recent poisoning was too obvious. If Putin ordered it, it would seem like an intentional ‘**** you’.
He knows that the rest of the world has "evolved" beyond a good ol fashioned ass kicking response
Europe is too dependent, and the US is too soft... all accusations of Trump being a Russian asset aside - our last four Presidents have ALL been Russian assets
the minute we have a leader calling for things that would truly hurt Putin, we'll be right back to "the 1980s called"
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Good read.CID1990 wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/16/opin ... %2Fopinion
This gave me a chuckle - and I assume Drumpf will target the author
Donald Trump’s second-place finish in the 2016 U.S. election.
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Perhaps tangential... but, Cambridge Analytica has always been a big question mark - both in this story and Brexit.
It's heating up in the UK with the Red Scare fever crossing the pond. Maybe we'll get some answers.
They've been fighting the release of a Channel 4 investigation. Supposedly CA execs discuss "winning the election for Trump" and how they did it.
https://www.ft.com/content/7ed1572c-2aa ... 7563b0b0f4
Facebook stock plummeted on the news.
https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/03/ ... onday.aspx
Now sounds like they bout to get raided.
UK authorities seek warrant to search Cambridge Analytica offices
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-face ... SKBN1GV2OQ
Cambridge Analytica is a link between Bannon, the Mercers and is full of connections to Russia and Assange/Wikileaks. Will be interesting to see if there was any sharing of data between CA and... say... Internet Research Agency.
It's heating up in the UK with the Red Scare fever crossing the pond. Maybe we'll get some answers.
They've been fighting the release of a Channel 4 investigation. Supposedly CA execs discuss "winning the election for Trump" and how they did it.
https://www.ft.com/content/7ed1572c-2aa ... 7563b0b0f4
Facebook stock plummeted on the news.
https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/03/ ... onday.aspx
Now sounds like they bout to get raided.
UK authorities seek warrant to search Cambridge Analytica offices
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-face ... SKBN1GV2OQ
Cambridge Analytica is a link between Bannon, the Mercers and is full of connections to Russia and Assange/Wikileaks. Will be interesting to see if there was any sharing of data between CA and... say... Internet Research Agency.
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This is going to be another dry hole
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This guy is a Vogon.
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JohnStOnge wrote:This guy is a Vogon.
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I don't think there are many holes known to be dry at this point. I think that there is one credible investigation going on and we don't know what that investigation has turned up to this point.CID1990 wrote:This is going to be another dry hole
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Exactly. Of all of the smoke in this story - there isn't a single angle that has been answered with a legit answer. Why?
"Oh, we tried to cooordinate with the Kremlin... but, it turns out... they didn't have anything. Meeting was a total bust! No collusion!!!!! Nothingburger! Dry hole! SAD!"
"Oh, we tried to cooordinate with the Kremlin... but, it turns out... they didn't have anything. Meeting was a total bust! No collusion!!!!! Nothingburger! Dry hole! SAD!"
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You guys are really thrashing around
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No we're not. Which investigation other than the Mueller investigation do you consider to be credible?CID1990 wrote:You guys are really thrashing around
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If your answer is "none of them," do you know what the Mueller investigation has turned up at this point?
And by the way I hope your answer to the first question is "none of them" because if it's not you're going to lose all of your own credibility.
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Dude, Cid has thought Mueller is just doing a song and dance to appease Democrats for almost a year now. He doesn't think any of the investigations are legitimate. He doesn't think any investigation whatsoever is legitimate.
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