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Mueller has interviewed the cybersecurity expert who said he was 'recruited to collude with the Russians'

A cybersecurity researcher who said he was recruited to vet hacked Hillary Clinton emails last year by a GOP operative tied to President Donald Trump's campaign team has been interviewed by special counsel Robert Mueller, Business Insider has learned.

Matt Tait, a former information security specialist at Britain's Government Communications Headquarters who tweets as @pwnallthethings, was interviewed by Mueller several weeks ago, according to a source familiar with the matter.

The interview was part of a broader effort by Mueller to examine the relationship between the longtime GOP operative — the late Peter Smith — and former national security adviser Michael Flynn, and whether Flynn played any role in seeking out the stolen emails during the election.

The House Intelligence Committee has also interviewed Tait in its probe into Russia's election interference, according to CNN.

Tait declined to comment. A spokesman for Mueller's office declined to comment.

Mueller interviewed Tait months after Tait published a first-person account of his interactions with Smith on the national security blog, LawFare.

In a piece titled "The Time I Got Recruited to Collude with the Russians," Tait recalled how Smith had approached him to help verify the authenticity of emails he said were given to him by dark web hackers.

"Smith implied that he was a well-connected Republican political operative," Tait wrote, and had contacted him because he believed "that Clinton’s private email server had been hacked—in his view almost certainly both by the Russian government and likely by multiple other hackers too."

Tait said he went along with Smith's request because he wanted to find out more about these hackers — and whether they were pranksters or part of a larger Russian intelligence operation.

He said he never found out. But he wrote that it was "immediately apparent that Smith was both well connected within the top echelons of the [Trump] campaign and he seemed to know both Lt. Gen. [Michael] Flynn and his son well." Smith also listed top Trump advisers Kellyanne Conway, Steve Bannon, and Sam Clovis as part of a group he had formed to conduct opposition research on Clinton.

Tait's interaction with Smith went on for at least a few weeks, he wrote, and at one point he sent Tait a document detailing the company Smith and his colleagues had set up "as a vehicle to conduct" the opposition research.

The company, KLS Research, had been set up as a limited-liability corporation in Delaware "to avoid campaign reporting," wrote Tait, who said he didn't view the document as "merely a name-dropping exercise."

"This document was about establishing a company to conduct opposition research on behalf of the campaign, but operating at a distance so as to avoid campaign reporting," Tait wrote.

"Indeed, the document says as much in black and white ... the combination of Smith’s deep knowledge of the inner workings of the campaign, this document naming him in the 'Trump campaign' group, and the multiple references to needing to avoid campaign reporting suggested to me that the group was formed with the blessing of the Trump campaign," he said.

Smith committed suicide in May after talking to The Wall Street Journal about his experience.

Flynn was forced to resign as national security adviser in February after reports emerged that he had misled Vice President Mike Pence about his communication with Russia's former ambassador to the US, Sergei Kislyak. That communication is now under scrutiny by Mueller, who is also investigating Flynn's son, Michael Flynn Jr., according to NBC.
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Yeah, it's possible that they get Michael Flynn on something or other when they're done all of this. :rofl:
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Speaking of Russia and collusion and bribery...

FBI uncovered Russian bribery plot before Obama administration approved controversial nuclear deal with Moscow
Before the Obama administration approved a controversial deal in 2010 giving Moscow control of a large swath of American uranium, the FBI had gathered substantial evidence that Russian nuclear industry officials were engaged in bribery, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering designed to grow Vladimir Putin’s atomic energy business inside the United States, according to government documents and interviews.

Federal agents used a confidential U.S. witness working inside the Russian nuclear industry to gather extensive financial records, make secret recordings and intercept emails as early as 2009 that showed Moscow had compromised an American uranium trucking firm with bribes and kickbacks in violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, FBI and court documents show.

They also obtained an eyewitness account — backed by documents — indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow, sources told The Hill.

The racketeering scheme was conducted “with the consent of higher level officials” in Russia who “shared the proceeds” from the kickbacks, one agent declared in an affidavit years later.

Rather than bring immediate charges in 2010, however, the Department of Justice (DOJ) continued investigating the matter for nearly four more years, essentially leaving the American public and Congress in the dark about Russian nuclear corruption on U.S. soil during a period when the Obama administration made two major decisions benefiting Putin’s commercial nuclear ambitions.

The first decision occurred in October 2010, when the State Department and government agencies on the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States unanimously approved the partial sale of Canadian mining company Uranium One to the Russian nuclear giant Rosatom, giving Moscow control of more than 20 percent of America’s uranium supply.
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Big question is whether they knew and it was coordinated.
Trump Campaign Staffers Pushed Russian Propaganda Days Before the Election

Kellyanne Conway and Donald Trump Jr. pushed messages from an account operated from Russia’s “troll farm”—including allegations of voter fraud a week before Election Day.

Some of the Trump campaign’s most prominent names and supporters, including Trump’s campaign manager, digital director and son, pushed tweets from professional trolls paid by the Russian government in the heat of the 2016 election campaign.

The Twitter account @Ten_GOP, which called itself the “Unofficial Twitter account of Tennessee Republicans,” was operated from the Kremlin-backed “Russian troll farm,” or Internet Research Agency, a source familiar with the account confirmed with The Daily Beast.

The account’s origins in the Internet Research Agency were originally reported by the independent Russian news outlet RBC. @Ten_GOP was created on November 19, 2015, and accumulated over 100 thousand followers before Twitter shut it down. The Daily Beast independently confirmed the reasons for @Ten_GOP's account termination.

The discovery of the now-unavailable tweets presents the first evidence that several members of the Trump campaign pushed covert Russian propaganda on social media in the run-up to the 2016 election.
A Twitter spokesperson declined to comment, “for privacy and security reasons."

Two days before election day, Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway tweeted a post by @Ten_GOP regarding Hillary Clinton’s email.

“Mother of jailed sailor: 'Hold Hillary to same standards as my son on Classified info' #hillarysemail #WeinerGate” the tweet reads.

Three weeks before the election, Brad Parscale, the Trump campaign’s digital director, retweeted a separate post from @Ten_GOP.

“Thousands of deplorables chanting to the media: "Tell The Truth!" RT if you are also done w/ biased Media!” the tweet read.

President Trump’s son Donald Trump Jr. followed the account until its closure on August 23rd of this year. Trump Jr. retweeted the account three times, including an allegation of voter fraud in Florida one week before the election.

“BREAKING: #VoterFraud by counting tens of thousands of ineligible mail in Hillary votes being reported in Broward County, Florida Please, RT,” the tweet read.

Trump Jr. also retweeted the account on Election Day.

“This vet passed away last month before he could vote for Trump.. Here he is in his #MAGA hat.. #voted #ElectionDay,” the account wrote.

Former Trump National Security Advisor Michael Flynn retweeted the Russian-backed troll account at least once. His son, Michael Flynn Jr., retweeted the account 34 times before it was removed from Twitter in August for its ties to Russian propaganda.

The account notably pushed for Flynn’s reappointment as Trump’s national security advisor, a job Flynn lost after press revelations that he’d lied about his telephone discussions with the Russian ambassador after the election hacks. It also repeatedly pushed Breitbart-backed talking points, including a fake news story about a gang rape in Twin Falls, Idaho that merited dozens of articles from Breitbart News.

Flynn Jr. will likely receive a Senate subpoena after he refused to be interviewed for the Senate Intelligence Committee’s Russia investigation, ABC News reported on Tuesday.

Former Trump campaign advisor and longtime confidante of the president Roger Stone retweeted the account three times in 2017, twice to rail against commentators on CNN.

On the same day as the account’s permanent ban, @Ten_GOP was caught passing a photo of the 2016 Cleveland Cavaliers NBA Championship parade in Cleveland as a picture of the crowd gathered outside a Trump rally in Phoenix.

Last March the account was one of the most active in promoting WikiLeaks’ first big release of CIA documents, using the occasion to float the false claim that the so-called “Vault 7” documents acquitted Russia in the hack of the Democratic National Committee. “BREAKING: Obama’s CIA posed as RUSSIAN HACKERS to disguise their dirty work,” read one of the tweets. “The ‘Russian hacking’ was a false flag by the CIA. It was done to give Obama a reason to spy on Trump!,” read another.

Overt Russian propaganda outlets Sputnik and RT frequently used @Ten_GOP’s tweets in their news stories, including a story titled “Russia has no compromising info on Trump or Clinton, report is ‘total bluff’ — Kremlin.”
Far right news sites The Gateway Pundit and InfoWars quoted the account in articles several times.

Fox News cited @Ten_GOP as its sole example of a “Trump fan” in an article titled “Trump fans call for Kellogg's boycott after brand pulls Breitbart ads” last December.

Former FBI counterterrorism agent Clint Watts, who testified to the Senate Intelligence Committee on Russian cyberattacks, told The Daily Beast that this is “exactly what I was talking about” in his testimony in March.
“If what you said is true, I’d say, ‘My job is done,’” said Watts. “If this account is definitely an (Internet Research Agency) account, it proved Russian Active Measures (like the 2016 propaganda campaign) works, because Americans will use it against other Americans.”

Watts said the content of these pages is “made to look organic” so that “Americans will use it against their political enemies.”

“If you take rumors, false information, plants, and just repeat them, you’re doing the job of a foreign country. They are seeding out information or narratives they know candidates or partisans will use. They were so effective, they had the very top people in the campaign using it,” said Watts.

“Basically, Russia loaded the gun. The Trump team fired.”

Mike Hasson, chief strategist of the Republican data analytics firm Red Metrics, said he remembered seeing the account as far back as the primaries, but became skeptical of the account due to a “couple odd things that stood out.”

“I remember seeing it in late primary season, showing up in my timeline, retweeted by ordinary grassroots people. Some of the stuff was conspiracy theorist and inflammatory, but other times the content was intended to be inspiring and heartwarming,” said Hasson.

Hasson said he became more confident of Ten_GOP’s origins after the account stopped tweeting about Tennessee and started tweeting about nationalist French presidential candidate Marine Le Pen, then tweeted several links from Russian propaganda network RT.

“For it to jump from Tennessee-related stuff and national stuff to Le Pen, that was probably the trigger point––like, ‘Ok, maybe there is something here that’s a lot worse,’” said Hasson.

“At that point, it was much more than just suspicion. That was more of a confirmation," he said, of Russia Today's frequent citation of the account. "By that point, it had accumulated enough red flags that I felt pretty sure that this was one of the bad guys.”

The account was retweeted 15 times by far-right agitator Ann Coulter, who also posted one of its tweets to her Twitter account.

Last month, after the account’s closure, someone launched a petition on the White House’s “We The People” site complaining about “a war on conservatives on Twitter.” The petition demanded the reinstatement of several alt-right Twitter accounts that had been suspended from the service, adding “My own account, @Tennessee_GOP, was banned on August the 23th.”

The petition misstates the name of the @Ten_GOP account, but came at around the same time as two more White House petitions protesting Facebook’s deletion of fake African American and progressive political accounts linked to the Russian active measures campaign. None of the petitions received enough signatures to qualify for a White House response.

Others in Trump’s inner circle, including former deputy national security advisor Sebastian Gorka, also retweeted Russian-tied Twitter accounts.

Despite posing as Tennessee Republicans, the account never hesitated to push the Kremlin’s talking points on issues like Syria and the French election. In May, the anonymous operator of a Twitter account called AltCyberCommand used Twitter’s password reset process to try and prove Russia’s involvement. A video of the hack appeared to show that TEN_GOP’s Twitter account was set up with a phone number in country code 7, indicating the Russian Federation, not Tennessee.
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hilldog gets nailed with bribery payments for the uranium sign off and jellybelly posts a longer than normal article with more reaches than a #metoo story. :lol:
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I'm not fan of Clinton. As I have said in this thread every time there is some Hillary-whataboutism thrown about: investigate her, prosecute her, throw her in jail. It's all good.
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Golly

If only we had been more aware of Russia around 2009-2012

But then the 1980s called and distracted us


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SDHornet wrote:hilldog gets nailed with bribery payments for the uranium sign off and jellybelly posts a longer than normal article with more reaches than a #metoo story. :lol:
It's not just The Hildabeast. Obama is just as complicit. :nod:
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Baldy wrote:
SDHornet wrote:hilldog gets nailed with bribery payments for the uranium sign off and jellybelly posts a longer than normal article with more reaches than a #metoo story. :lol:
It's not just The Hildabeast. Obama is just as complicit. :nod:
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Baldy wrote: It's not just The Hildabeast. Obama is just as complicit. :nod:
Huh? How so?

It seems Clinton Foundation accepted some pretty questionable "donations" that certainly look like bribes. Maybe Obama did too, but it ain't in the article. :suspicious:



And, Solomon has been used as a source for some pretty misleading articles. Remember when Comey's memos contained classified information? Huge if true! Lock him up. Fizzle........

Comey’s private memos on Trump conversations contained classified material
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Next day the Trump Jr meeting broke. :coffee:
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Trump Jr. Was Told in Email of Russian Effort to Aid Campaign
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But....but...but...I was told Hillary Clinton was basically an honest person who's just a victim of talk radio, Bernie Bros, and the sexist media!
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CID1990 wrote:Golly

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That will always be a great comeback. It will be more than a nothing burger now that the real scandal is covered.


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Skjellyfetti wrote:
Baldy wrote: It's not just The Hildabeast. Obama is just as complicit. :nod:
Huh? How so?

It seems Clinton Foundation accepted some pretty questionable "donations" that certainly look like bribes. Maybe Obama did too, but it ain't in the article. :suspicious:
Obama didn't have to accept bribes in order to be complicit. Hell, he signed off on the deal. :dunce:
Rather than bring immediate charges in 2010, however, the Department of Justice (DOJ) continued investigating the matter for nearly four more years, essentially leaving the American public and Congress in the dark about Russian nuclear corruption on U.S. soil during a period when the Obama administration made two major decisions benefiting Putin’s commercial nuclear ambitions.

The first decision occurred in October 2010, when the State Department and government agencies on the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States unanimously approved the partial sale of Canadian mining company Uranium One to the Russian nuclear giant Rosatom, giving Moscow control of more than 20 percent of America’s uranium supply.
He knew this was going on for years during his administration. That is, if you're stupid enough to believe he was never briefed that a former president, first lady...your current Secretary of State were all mixed up in a racketeering scheme with the Russians to get their hands on 25% of the country's weapons grade uranium. :?
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If you have a link saying he knew it was going on - go ahead and post it. Might be better in a separate thread, but whatever. The fact that you posted it here looks like you want to distract.

If he did something illegal - investigate him, prosecute him, and throw him in prison. I don't think Jeff Sessions is a Democrat plant to protect Obama and Hillary, but that's just me. :coffee:

But, your article doesn't make any quid pro quo allegations about Obama. It's not the same level of complicity - even assuming everything is true.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:If you have a link saying he knew it was going on - go ahead and post it. Might be better in a separate thread, but whatever. The fact that you posted it here looks like you want to distract.

If he did something illegal - investigate him, prosecute him, and throw him in prison. I don't think Jeff Sessions is a Democrat plant to protect Obama and Hillary, but that's just me. :coffee:

But, your article doesn't make any quid pro quo allegations about Obama. It's not the same level of complicity - even assuming everything is true.
Are you so blinded by the Hope and Change Artist that you actually believe that the President of the United States was not made aware that his Secretary of State (the person 4th in line to the Presidency) was under investigation by the FBI for racketeering and bribery with the fucking Russians? The fucking Russians trying to take over 25% of the country's weapons grade uranium? :silly:
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Baldy wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:If you have a link saying he knew it was going on - go ahead and post it. Might be better in a separate thread, but whatever. The fact that you posted it here looks like you want to distract.

If he did something illegal - investigate him, prosecute him, and throw him in prison. I don't think Jeff Sessions is a Democrat plant to protect Obama and Hillary, but that's just me. :coffee:

But, your article doesn't make any quid pro quo allegations about Obama. It's not the same level of complicity - even assuming everything is true.
Are you so blinded by the Hope and Change Artist that you actually believe that the President of the United States was not made aware that his Secretary of State (the person 4th in line to the Presidency) was under investigation by the FBI for racketeering and bribery with the **** Russians? The **** Russians trying to take over 25% of the country's weapons grade uranium? :silly:
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that uranium is in the ground in the US where it will stay. It ain't going nowhere. :coffee:
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Baldy wrote: Are you so blinded by the Hope and Change Artist that you actually believe that the President of the United States was not made aware that his Secretary of State (the person 4th in line to the Presidency) was under investigation by the FBI for racketeering and bribery with the fucking Russians?
I think Hillary is a scam artist and if she was taking bribes - she's smart enough that she would probably keep those "in the know" to as few as possible.

She also probably didn't share her "kill list" with him. :roll:
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
Baldy wrote: Are you so blinded by the Hope and Change Artist that you actually believe that the President of the United States was not made aware that his Secretary of State (the person 4th in line to the Presidency) was under investigation by the FBI for racketeering and bribery with the fucking Russians?
I think Hillary is a scam artist and if she was taking bribes - she's smart enough that she would probably keep those "in the know" to as few as possible.
Do you think keeping those "in the know" to as few as possible included the DOJ and the FBI. You know since they were investigating all this. :?
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No, I don't think she would tell the DOJ and FBI about accepting bribes from Russian oligarchs. :lol:

The article sounds like a slam dunk, though! Surely Sessions would prosecute? No? What's the hold up? Ohhhh. Rosenstein is also implicated. Awkward!

Let's see what story still has legs in a year. :coffee: You've successfully deflected the thread, though. Nice work.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:No, I don't think she would tell the DOJ and FBI about accepting bribes from Russian oligarchs. :lol:

The article sounds like a slam dunk, though! Surely Sessions would prosecute? No? What's the hold up? Ohhhh. Rosenstein is also implicated. Awkward!

Let's see what story still has legs in a year. :coffee: You've successfully deflected the thread, though. Nice work.
...and the FBI and DOJ wouldn't notify Obama that his most important and high profile cabinet member was under investigation for racketeering and bribery...with the Russians? Yep, no doubt that Obama was totally out of the loop on that one. :lol:

Oops, and now there's this...

Bill Clinton sought State’s permission to meet with Russian nuclear official during Obama uranium decision
As he prepared to collect a $500,000 payday in Moscow in 2010, Bill Clinton sought clearance from the State Department to meet with a key board director of the Russian nuclear energy firm Rosatom — which at the time needed the Obama administration’s approval for a controversial uranium deal, government records show.

Arkady Dvorkovich, a top aide to then-Russian President Dmitri Medvedev and one of the highest-ranking government officials to serve on Rosatom’s board of supervisors, was listed on a May 14, 2010, email as one of 15 Russians the former president wanted to meet during a late June 2010 trip, the documents show.

“In the context of a possible trip to Russia at the end of June, WJC is being asked to see the business/government folks below. Would State have concerns about WJC seeing any of these folks,” Clinton Foundation foreign policy adviser Amitabh Desai wrote the State Department on May 14, 2010, using the former president’s initials and forwarding the list of names to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s team.

The email went to two of Hillary Clinton’s most senior advisers, Jake Sullivan and Cheryl Mills.

The approval question, however, sat inside State for nearly two weeks without an answer, prompting Desai to make multiple pleas for a decision.

“Dear Jake, we urgently need feedback on this. Thanks, Ami,” the former president’s aide wrote in early June.

Sullivan finally responded on June 7, 2010, asking a fellow State official “What’s the deal w this?”

The documents don’t indicate what decision the State Department finally made. But current and former aides to both Clintons told The Hill on Thursday the request to meet the various Russians came from other people, and the ex-president’s aides and State decided in the end not to hold any of the meetings with the Russians on the list.

Bill Clinton instead got together with Vladimir Putin at the Russian leader’s private homestead.
You might be right for once, jelly. I should probably start a new thread. It looks like there may may finally be some serious underhanded shenanigans going on with the Russians. :lol:
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Baldy wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:No, I don't think she would tell the DOJ and FBI about accepting bribes from Russian oligarchs. :lol:

The article sounds like a slam dunk, though! Surely Sessions would prosecute? No? What's the hold up? Ohhhh. Rosenstein is also implicated. Awkward!

Let's see what story still has legs in a year. :coffee: You've successfully deflected the thread, though. Nice work.
...and the FBI and DOJ wouldn't notify Obama that his most important and high profile cabinet member was under investigation for racketeering and bribery...with the Russians? Yep, no doubt that Obama was totally out of the loop on that one. :lol:
It's funny seeing leftists spin Obama as not knowing what was going on in his administration. :lol:

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Baldy wrote: ...and the FBI and DOJ wouldn't notify Obama that his most important and high profile cabinet member was under investigation for racketeering and bribery...with the Russians? Yep, no doubt that Obama was totally out of the loop on that one. :lol:
It's funny seeing leftists spin Obama as not knowing what was going on in his administration. :lol:

:dunce:

:rofl:
Kinda like the leftists saying Niger is Trumps Benghazi when they've said for years that Benghazi was a totally overblown manufactured scandal. :lol:
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Baldy wrote:
SDHornet wrote: It's funny seeing leftists spin Obama as not knowing what was going on in his administration. :lol:

:dunce:

:rofl:
Kinda like the leftists saying Niger is Trumps Benghazi when they've said for years that Benghazi was a totally overblown manufactured scandal. :lol:
It was a Youtube video!!!! YOUTUBE!!!!


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