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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Dont talk about Americas President that way, show some respect :tothehand:
Oh come off it. You don't give a damn about respecting the President.
I absolutely do when there is someone to respect holding the office. A real leader not some bought and paid for token White House boy

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Papadopoulos tweeting six guys just got axed in Italian Intelligence Services for Spygate.
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SeattleGriz wrote:Papadopoulos tweeting six guys just got axed in Italian Intelligence Services for Spygate.
I’m hoping for one thing and one thing only (and it will never happen)

I want to see the people who periodically leaked details of the Mueller investigation (and got people like Jelly jerking off all over themselves) doxxed

Seriously - the bipartisan hatred towards them will be a deterrent to future federal gadflies


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SeattleGriz wrote:Papadopoulos tweeting six guys just got axed in Italian Intelligence Services for Spygate.
I’m hoping for one thing and one thing only (and it will never happen)

I want to see the people who periodically leaked details of the Mueller investigation (and got people like Jelly jerking off all over themselves) doxxed

Seriously - the bipartisan hatred towards them will be a deterrent to future federal gadflies


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That would be epic...


...btw, anybody finding the irony in Durham being selected as SP...

...after all he is the guy that investigated the FBI for the 4 guys the FBI framed to cover for Whitey Bulger...

...that coincidentally had Mueller and Weissman's fingerprints all over it...

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I am reading pieces of the report from time to time. Just for you guys who think the report affirmatively "cleared" everybody in the Trump campaign of coordinating with Russia, note that Paul Manafort provided internal polling data with a guy with connections to Russian intelligence. Here is an interesting commentary on that from the report:
Because of questions about Manafort' s credibility and our limited ability to gather evidence on what happened to the polling data after it was sent to Kilimnik, the Office could not assess what Kilimnik (or others he may have given it to) did with it. The Office did not identify evidence of a connection between Manafort' sharing polling data and Russia's interference in the election, which had already been reported by U.S. media outlets at the time of the August 2 meeting.
That is way more "we couldn't tell" than it is "he didn't do anything." In other words, the polling data Manafort provided to the Russians COULD have played a roel in Russian interference. They just weren't able to find out if that was the case.

This thing where the report is being spun as having shown "no collustion" is just absolute nonsense. Again: The investigators did not acquire sufficient evidence to charge anybody with criminal conspiracy with respect to two specific Russian government election interference efforts given the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard. That's not the same thing as "we found they didn't do anything wrong." Not at all.
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JSO still stuck on retard I see. :coffee:

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JohnStOnge wrote:I am reading pieces of the report from time to time. Just for you guys who think the report affirmatively "cleared" everybody in the Trump campaign of coordinating with Russia, note that Paul Manafort provided internal polling data with a guy with connections to Russian intelligence. Here is an interesting commentary on that from the report:
Because of questions about Manafort' s credibility and our limited ability to gather evidence on what happened to the polling data after it was sent to Kilimnik, the Office could not assess what Kilimnik (or others he may have given it to) did with it. The Office did not identify evidence of a connection between Manafort' sharing polling data and Russia's interference in the election, which had already been reported by U.S. media outlets at the time of the August 2 meeting.
That is way more "we couldn't tell" than it is "he didn't do anything." In other words, the polling data Manafort provided to the Russians COULD have played a roel in Russian interference. They just weren't able to find out if that was the case.

This thing where the report is being spun as having shown "no collustion" is just absolute nonsense. Again: The investigators did not acquire sufficient evidence to charge anybody with criminal conspiracy with respect to two specific Russian government election interference efforts given the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard. That's not the same thing as "we found they didn't do anything wrong." Not at all.
Well then

I thought the Wunderkind was supposed to get to the bottom of all this

It’s Mueller Time!! All those retards in the Trump campaign won’t be able to hide their nefarious actions from Mueller!

How did dumb Trump and his dumb henchmen ever outsmart Mueller?

(Because there was no conspiracy)


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CID1990 wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:I am reading pieces of the report from time to time. Just for you guys who think the report affirmatively "cleared" everybody in the Trump campaign of coordinating with Russia, note that Paul Manafort provided internal polling data with a guy with connections to Russian intelligence. Here is an interesting commentary on that from the report:



That is way more "we couldn't tell" than it is "he didn't do anything." In other words, the polling data Manafort provided to the Russians COULD have played a roel in Russian interference. They just weren't able to find out if that was the case.

This thing where the report is being spun as having shown "no collustion" is just absolute nonsense. Again: The investigators did not acquire sufficient evidence to charge anybody with criminal conspiracy with respect to two specific Russian government election interference efforts given the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard. That's not the same thing as "we found they didn't do anything wrong." Not at all.
Well then

I thought the Wunderkind was supposed to get to the bottom of all this

It’s Mueller Time!! All those retards in the Trump campaign won’t be able to hide their nefarious actions from Mueller!

How did dumb Trump and his dumb henchmen ever outsmart Mueller?

(Because there was no conspiracy)


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Thank you for that post. I am finally making the connection from Bush to Trump.

Trump is just like Bush. Guy is SO stupid, but yet is such a mastermind, he is able to fool everyone.

He's an idiot savant.
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There are a few principled Congress critters. Republican Justin Amash is one of them. He’s calling for impeachment and calling out Barr. Much gnashing of tribalistic teeth will ensue. :clap:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/justin-ama ... peachment/
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kalm wrote:There are a few principled Congress critters. Republican Justin Amash is one of them. He’s calling for impeachment and calling out Barr. Much gnashing of tribalistic teeth will ensue. :clap:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/justin-ama ... peachment/
Amash is co-owner of Dynamic Source International. A China based manufacturer of tools, in which Amash claimed his tools were American made.

His principles appear to only be limited to lining his pockets.

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SeattleGriz wrote:
kalm wrote:There are a few principled Congress critters. Republican Justin Amash is one of them. He’s calling for impeachment and calling out Barr. Much gnashing of tribalistic teeth will ensue. :clap:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/justin-ama ... peachment/
Amash is co-owner of Dynamic Source International. A China based manufacturer of tools, in which Amash claimed his tools were American made.

His principles appear to only be limited to lining his pockets.

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kalm wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Amash is co-owner of Dynamic Source International. A China based manufacturer of tools, in which Amash claimed his tools were American made.

His principles appear to only be limited to lining his pockets.

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Take a look at the Amash family. Dad owns an import company and imports shit from China. They are fully intertwined with China and don't like tariffs.

That must be the Libertarian in him. Wanting our government to stay out of his foreign business.
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Take a look at the Amash family. Dad owns an import company and imports shit from China. They are fully intertwined with China and don't like tariffs.

That must be the Libertarian in him. Wanting our government to stay out of his foreign business.
You still need some thickening agent. Maybe a few dashes of Melinda’s Habanero.

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kalm wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Take a look at the Amash family. Dad owns an import company and imports shit from China. They are fully intertwined with China and don't like tariffs.

That must be the Libertarian in him. Wanting our government to stay out of his foreign business.
You still need some thickening agent. Maybe a few dashes of Melinda’s Habanero.

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Agreed. Pretty thin right now, but the internet just started digging into his history.
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Didn't read the articles linked, but what is the reasoning behind Amash's impeachment? Anything other than "Orange Man Bad"?
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Back to the Russia Hoax, here is an interview with Papadopoulos last month. Back then he said the Italians flipped and just this past week we had some Italian intel agency folks getting axed. Papadop says British and Aussie intel folks also tied up in this. Interesting.

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SDHornet wrote:Didn't read the articles linked, but what is the reasoning behind Amash's impeachment? Anything other than "Orange Man Bad"?
Him and his family use a factory in China to make tools, then import them and sell them under an American name.

Tariffs don't help them, and he has been vocal about being against them.

I don't see what the problem is, if he would just admit it. A quick search shows the tools are a decent value for the price and customer service seems to be good.

Of course it never looks good to choose China over the USA.
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Take a look at the Amash family. Dad owns an import company and imports **** from China. They are fully intertwined with China and don't like tariffs.

That must be the Libertarian in him. Wanting our government to stay out of his foreign business.
Libertarians are typically free traders so I’m not sure how Amash’s business background should come as some kind of revelation

It puts him at odds with both parties (although Democrats are currently free traders because Orange Man Bad)

The media went for the distracting shiny object of his tweets and either missed or buried his central point (no surprise there)


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CID1990 wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:I am reading pieces of the report from time to time. Just for you guys who think the report affirmatively "cleared" everybody in the Trump campaign of coordinating with Russia, note that Paul Manafort provided internal polling data with a guy with connections to Russian intelligence. Here is an interesting commentary on that from the report:



That is way more "we couldn't tell" than it is "he didn't do anything." In other words, the polling data Manafort provided to the Russians COULD have played a roel in Russian interference. They just weren't able to find out if that was the case.

This thing where the report is being spun as having shown "no collustion" is just absolute nonsense. Again: The investigators did not acquire sufficient evidence to charge anybody with criminal conspiracy with respect to two specific Russian government election interference efforts given the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard. That's not the same thing as "we found they didn't do anything wrong." Not at all.
Well then

I thought the Wunderkind was supposed to get to the bottom of all this

It’s Mueller Time!! All those retards in the Trump campaign won’t be able to hide their nefarious actions from Mueller!

How did dumb Trump and his dumb henchmen ever outsmart Mueller?

(Because there was no conspiracy)


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Your comment in parenthesis is not supported by affirmative evidence. You start reading that report, and I'm doing it piecemeal, and the truth is clearly more a "we can't tell" thing than a "nothing happened" thing.

One can say that the "Wunerkind" was supposed to get to the bottom of everytihng. But he and his team clearly stated that they ran into situations where they could not do that.
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SDHornet wrote:Didn't read the articles linked, but what is the reasoning behind Amash's impeachment? Anything other than "Orange Man Bad"?
Even Barr's statements indicated that Mueller found things that could be construed as obstruction of justice. There's obviously a LOT more than just, "Orange Man Bad."

There's also stuff like this:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politi ... f-n1002436

Really man. This thing of trying to act like there's NO reason for a statement like Amash issued is ridiculous. If we had this situation, the President involved was a Democrat, and the Republicans were in control of Congress they would ALREADY have filed articles of impeachment.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
SDHornet wrote:Didn't read the articles linked, but what is the reasoning behind Amash's impeachment? Anything other than "Orange Man Bad"?
Even Barr's statements indicated that Mueller found things that could be construed as obstruction of justice. There's obviously a LOT more than just, "Orange Man Bad."

There's also stuff like this:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politi ... f-n1002436

Really man. This thing of trying to act like there's NO reason for a statement like Amash issued is ridiculous. If we had this situation, the President involved was a Democrat, and the Republicans were in control of Congress they would ALREADY have filed articles of impeachment.
Cool story bro. Tell the leftists in the House to impeach or STFU. :coffee:
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CID1990 wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Take a look at the Amash family. Dad owns an import company and imports **** from China. They are fully intertwined with China and don't like tariffs.

That must be the Libertarian in him. Wanting our government to stay out of his foreign business.
Libertarians are typically free traders so I’m not sure how Amash’s business background should come as some kind of revelation

It puts him at odds with both parties (although Democrats are currently free traders because Orange Man Bad)

The media went for the distracting shiny object of his tweets and either missed or buried his central point (no surprise there)


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The Democrats flip on tree trade dovetails their sudden lack of populism. It’s deliciously ironic.
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kalm wrote:
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Libertarians are typically free traders so I’m not sure how Amash’s business background should come as some kind of revelation

It puts him at odds with both parties (although Democrats are currently free traders because Orange Man Bad)

The media went for the distracting shiny object of his tweets and either missed or buried his central point (no surprise there)


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The Democrats flip on tree trade dovetails their sudden lack of populism. It’s deliciously ironic.
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SeattleGriz wrote:
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Take a look at the Amash family. Dad owns an import company and imports **** from China. They are fully intertwined with China and don't like tariffs.

That must be the Libertarian in him. Wanting our government to stay out of his foreign business.
Libertarians are typically free traders so I’m not sure how Amash’s business background should come as some kind of revelation

It puts him at odds with both parties (although Democrats are currently free traders because Orange Man Bad)

The media went for the distracting shiny object of his tweets and either missed or buried his central point (no surprise there)


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