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SeattleGriz wrote:The case where a shit ton of their discovery documents are in Russian?.
Or intelligence documents with sources and methods they don't want to turn over to Russia.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:The case where a **** ton of their discovery documents are in Russian?.
Or intelligence documents with sources and methods they don't want to turn over to Russia.
They can just send those through their Gmail


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Skjellyfetti wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:The case where a shit ton of their discovery documents are in Russian?.
Or intelligence documents with sources and methods they don't want to turn over to Russia.
Should have been more clear. They were Facebook and media posts in Russian.

As to the intelligence documents, you bet that is why Concord is pushing that, so they force Mueller to withdraw presenting intelligence documents.

Like I said, this whole thing seems odd. On one hand, I can see Mueller wanting to notch a win by actually indicting Russians, but find it hard to believe he was this sloppy.
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Well, it was fun while it lasted.

I look forward to the next theory. :lol:
President Donald Trump’s claim that the FBI embedded a spy in his campaign for political purposes began to crumble Wednesday after a prominent Republican, as well as defenders of the president, said he might have the story wrong.

In less than 24 hours, Trump’s allegations were publicly refuted by House Oversight Chairman Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), one of just nine lawmakers briefed on highly classified details of the FBI’s operation; Fox News legal analyst Andrew Napolitano, a Trump favorite; and prominent legal scholar Alan Dershowitz, a vocal Trump ally who has advised the president on legal strategy.

Legal experts and Trump critics say the defections have exposed cracks in the president’s narrative and undermine his attempts to discredit the FBI investigation into Russian contacts with his campaign as a partisan, “deep state” attack on his presidential bid.

And notably, a slew of Trump's congressional allies who have been active purveyors of what the president dubbed “spygate” — including Reps. Jim Jordan, Matt Gaetz and Lee Zeldin — were silent Wednesday. POLITICO reached out to a handful of these lawmakers and did not hear back. Only Rep. Mark Meadows had weighed in by late afternoon, suggesting the Justice Department couldn’t be trusted to explain away the controversy.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Well, it was fun while it lasted.

I look forward to the next theory. :lol:
So you are buying the " we used a spy to protect Trump from Russia" narrative? Mmkay.

Speaking of spies in political campaigns, here is a Glenn Greenwald (paging kalm) piece on the CIA using a spy in Carters campaign in 1980...ironically enough it involves the same guy in the Trump spy case. But no Deep State though right jellybelly?
Four decades ago, Halper was responsible for a long-forgotten spying scandal involving the 1980 election, in which the Reagan campaign – using CIA officials managed by Halper, reportedly under the direction of former CIA Director and then-Vice-Presidential candidate George H.W. Bush – got caught running a spying operation from inside the Carter administration. The plot involved CIA operatives passing classified information about Carter’s foreign policy to Reagan campaign officials in order to ensure the Reagan campaign knew of any foreign policy decisions that Carter was considering.
https://theintercept.com/2018/05/19/the ... -election/

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SDHornet wrote: So you are buying the " we used a spy to protect Trump from Russia" narrative? Mmkay.
No. I'm going with "they used an informant in a counterintelligence investigation... as per usual" :lol:
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
SDHornet wrote: So you are buying the " we used a spy to protect Trump from Russia" narrative? Mmkay.
No. I'm going with "they used an informant in a counterintelligence investigation... as per usual" :lol:
It is so usual that the FBI (Comey) didn't bother to brief the incoming President about it.
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SDHornet wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
No. I'm going with "they used an informant in a counterintelligence investigation... as per usual" :lol:
It is so usual that the FBI (Comey) didn't bother to brief the incoming President about it.
Hilariously Trump dismissed a huge number of his early briefings... Quite literally dismissing them

Imagine that :lol: The President that is commonly referred to as "dangerously uninformed"
knew so much he didn't need to be briefed

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SDHornet wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
No. I'm going with "they used an informant in a counterintelligence investigation... as per usual" :lol:
It is so usual that the FBI (Comey) didn't bother to brief the incoming President about it.
They were briefed in July 2016 that Russians would likely try to infiltrate their campaign. And it was recommended they report any suspicious contacts to the FBI. They didn't really take that to heart.

And, yeah - I'd assume it's probably pretty usual for them not to brief potential subjects or targets of the investigation about sources and methods being used in said investigation. :lol:
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
SDHornet wrote: It is so usual that the FBI (Comey) didn't bother to brief the incoming President about it.
They were briefed in July 2016 that Russians would likely try to infiltrate their campaign. And it was recommended they report any suspicious contacts to the FBI. They didn't really take that to heart.

And, yeah - I'd assume it's probably pretty usual for them not to brief potential subjects or targets of the investigation about sources and methods being used in said investigation. :lol:
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kalm wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
They were briefed in July 2016 that Russians would likely try to infiltrate their campaign. And it was recommended they report any suspicious contacts to the FBI. They didn't really take that to heart.

And, yeah - I'd assume it's probably pretty usual for them not to brief potential subjects or targets of the investigation about sources and methods being used in said investigation. :lol:
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BDKJMU wrote:
kalm wrote:
Pst...Hey, Trump administration...we’re investigating the Trump administration...just wanted to keep you in the loop.... :lol:
Gotcha. So you acknowledge the FBI was spying on the Trump admin..
I don’t know and I don’t have a side in this. If they were, I’m guessing there was reasonable suspicion. Christ...there’s reasonable suspicions based on simply what’s been reported in the news.

It’s all a game and if you pick sides, you’re a total homer/dork. :nod:
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kalm wrote:
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Gotcha. So you acknowledge the FBI was spying on the Trump admin..
I don’t know and I don’t have a side in this. If they were, I’m guessing there was reasonable suspicion. Christ...there’s reasonable suspicions based on simply what’s been reported in the news.

It’s all a game and if you pick sides, you’re a total homer/dork. :nod:
Reasonable suspicion isn't the standard for warrants -

BTW I like your "its been reported in the news" comment ... we should adopt that as the standard for everything
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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
I don’t know and I don’t have a side in this. If they were, I’m guessing there was reasonable suspicion. Christ...there’s reasonable suspicions based on simply what’s been reported in the news.

It’s all a game and if you pick sides, you’re a total homer/dork. :nod:
Reasonable suspicion isn't the standard for warrants -

BTW I like your "its been reported in the news" comment ... we should adopt that as the standard for everything
Yeah, Chachi, I’m not required to follow legal standards, I get to speculate and apply common sense.

Sorry that bothers you.

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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
I don’t know and I don’t have a side in this. If they were, I’m guessing there was reasonable suspicion. Christ...there’s reasonable suspicions based on simply what’s been reported in the news.

It’s all a game and if you pick sides, you’re a total homer/dork. :nod:
Reasonable suspicion isn't the standard for warrants
And, you don't need a warrant to use an informant.

Or, are we jumping back to the "wiretapping Trump Tower" story? :lol:
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kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Reasonable suspicion isn't the standard for warrants -

BTW I like your "its been reported in the news" comment ... we should adopt that as the standard for everything
Yeah, Chachi, I’m not required to follow legal standards, I get to speculate and apply common sense.

Sorry that bothers you.

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It doesn't bother me at all - I think its a great standard... one that only someone of your common sense could come up with
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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
Yeah, Chachi, I’m not required to follow legal standards, I get to speculate and apply common sense.

Sorry that bothers you.

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It doesn't bother me at all - I think its a great standard... one that only someone of your common sense could come up with
:lol:

I'll let the courts and FBI determine the standard we were just having a conversation, Cpt Nitpicker.
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It's okay... Our President has announced that he has full authority to Pardon himself
Also noting that "He didn't do anything tho..."

But he could pardon himself if he felt like it
But he didn't do anything

You can't make this sh!t up



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Chizzang wrote:It's okay... Our President has announced that he has full authority to Pardon himself
Also noting that "He didn't do anything tho..."

But he could pardon himself if he felt like it
But he didn't do anything

You can't make this sh!t up



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Chizzang wrote:It's okay... Our President has announced that he has full authority to Pardon himself
Also noting that "He didn't do anything tho..."

But he could pardon himself if he felt like it
But he didn't do anything

You can't make this sh!t up



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So it appears he’s at least walked back Nixon’s “It isn’t a crime if the President does it.”

That’s good, right?
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Ivytalk wrote:
Chizzang wrote:It's okay... Our President has announced that he has full authority to Pardon himself
Also noting that "He didn't do anything tho..."

But he could pardon himself if he felt like it
But he didn't do anything

You can't make this sh!t up



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Yeah. I thought it took a conviction, a confession, or at least an indictment.
Not when he's trolling.
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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:It's okay... Our President has announced that he has full authority to Pardon himself
Also noting that "He didn't do anything tho..."

But he could pardon himself if he felt like it
But he didn't do anything

You can't make this sh!t up



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So it appears he’s at least walked back Nixon’s “It isn’t a crime if the President does it.”

That’s good, right?

Well, his lawyers were arguing a President can't obstruct justice....... so.... toeing that line :lol:
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Skjellyfetti wrote::rofl:
So if almost none of his stuff is privileged, how much, if any, can be dealing with Trump or stuff about Trump? Cohen's most likely a pretty bad dude who's done a lot of shady stuff - heck, he's a lawyer and a taxi cab mangate, I didn't even know there were such things. But if the idea is to get Trump, how is this good news?
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