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Re: Left Being Duped Over Global Warming

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GannonFan wrote:First saw this in the WSJ and now on CNN. Could be an interesting proposal - a carbon tax that also returns money to taxpayers in the form of dividends (rather than just going to the government coffers to be spent however).

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/09/politics/ ... index.html
I absolutely trust our leaders to give us the dividends and not spend the money on something else. :roll:
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HI54UNI wrote:
GannonFan wrote:First saw this in the WSJ and now on CNN. Could be an interesting proposal - a carbon tax that also returns money to taxpayers in the form of dividends (rather than just going to the government coffers to be spent however).

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/09/politics/ ... index.html
I absolutely trust our leaders to give us the dividends and not spend the money on something else. :roll:
Well, considering that it's brought up now as part of the plan, at least it would have a chance to happen. I don't recall many plans, actually, ever having this particular feature in it as obviously governments are loathe to not hold onto money they can spend elsewhere. So it's a start at least.
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90% of Republicans agree, believing the Trump administration is truthful and the media is untruthful.
Good Lord. We have a serious problem. You would have to be a complete idiot to believe that Trump and/or his Administration is truthful. This is bad. Republicans are now totally detached from reality.
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GannonFan wrote:
HI54UNI wrote:
I absolutely trust our leaders to give us the dividends and not spend the money on something else. :roll:
Well, considering that it's brought up now as part of the plan, at least it would have a chance to happen. I don't recall many plans, actually, ever having this particular feature in it as obviously governments are loathe to not hold onto money they can spend elsewhere. So it's a start at least.
You have waaaaaaaay more faith in our elected officials in DC than I ever will.
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Intelligent Design tells me they are a bunch of lying fuckers.
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Human activity has an effect on atmospheric composition

That effect does alter the climate

We do not know the magnitude. There is an equal number of unique theories of how this effect will manifest itself as there are climate scientists.

Regardless of what the real story is, we will not stop polluting unless we halt world population growth

Any realistic discussion of how to halt whatever damage climate change will cause must include a discussion about how to get the world population down around 6 billion. Because "clean energy" doesn't matter if the whole world isn't onboard.

So if you're one of the people who believes in all the global warming horror projections your time would be better spent trying to figure out how to start the next world war rather than how to cover Wyoming in solar panels

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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Well, we did a good job reducing or outright eliminating problems with smog in most of the country.

But, **** the EPA, amirite?
Are you seriously going to try and compare 20 million tons of smog in the USA to the entire Earths atmosphere?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Please do some research on the sheer volumes of the:
Troposphere
Stratusphere
Mesosphere
Ionosphere
Thermosphere
Exosphere

Then you will see why I am laughing so hard at this!!!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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andy7171 wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Well, we did a good job reducing or outright eliminating problems with smog in most of the country.

But, **** the EPA, amirite?
But what about India and China and the rest of the world who laughs off these regulations? Those two countries alone dwarf what good anything we do in America. If the warming and cooling have anything to do with humans in the first place!
China leads the world in solar power now while the US is trying to figure out how to not get stuck with oil inventory worth less every day.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
90% of Republicans agree, believing the Trump administration is truthful and the media is untruthful.
Good Lord. We have a serious problem. You would have to be a complete idiot to believe that Trump and/or his Administration is truthful. This is bad. Republicans are now totally detached from reality.
51% of them believe that Trump's ban on muslins is justified by the Bowling Green Massacre. :coffee:



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houndawg wrote:
andy7171 wrote: But what about India and China and the rest of the world who laughs off these regulations? Those two countries alone dwarf what good anything we do in America. If the warming and cooling have anything to do with humans in the first place!
China leads the world in solar power now while the US is trying to figure out how to not get stuck with oil inventory worth less every day.
Who gives a fuck about China & solar panels. :roll: Solar is never going to replace oil. And the US is trying to figure out how to get more oil.
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Re: Left Being Duped Over Global Warming

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houndawg wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
Are you seriously going to try and compare 20 million tons of smog in the USA to the entire Earths atmosphere?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Please do some research on the sheer volumes of the:
Troposphere
Stratusphere
Mesosphere
Ionosphere
Thermosphere
Exosphere

Then you will see why I am laughing so hard at this!!!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:lmao:


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BDKJMU wrote:
houndawg wrote:
China leads the world in solar power now while the US is trying to figure out how to not get stuck with oil inventory worth less every day.
Who gives a fuck about China & solar panels. :roll: Solar is never going to replace oil. And the US is trying to figure out how to get more oil.
Never..?
That seems like a long time

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Chizzang wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
Who gives a fuck about China & solar panels. :roll: Solar is never going to replace oil. And the US is trying to figure out how to get more oil.
Never..?
That seems like a long time

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I liked how they just swept the whole data issue under the rug. Nothing to see here.
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Chizzang wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
Who gives a **** about China & solar panels. :roll: Solar is never going to replace oil. And the US is trying to figure out how to get more oil.
Never..?
That seems like a long time

:?
Well, technically speaking, there are plenty of things that oil and it's derivatives provide that aren't related to energy or electrical production so yes, in that vein, solar can never completely replace oil. :coffee:
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Chizzang wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
Who gives a fuck about China & solar panels. :roll: Solar is never going to replace oil. And the US is trying to figure out how to get more oil.
Never..?
That seems like a long time

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GannonFan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Never..?
That seems like a long time

:?
Well, technically speaking, there are plenty of things that oil and it's derivatives provide that aren't related to energy or electrical production so yes, in that vein, solar can never completely replace oil. :coffee:
What about a solar powered hemp plastic factory...man!
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kalm wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Well, technically speaking, there are plenty of things that oil and it's derivatives provide that aren't related to energy or electrical production so yes, in that vein, solar can never completely replace oil. :coffee:
What about a solar powered hemp plastic factory...man!
That helps. Still need oil for a lot of other things. Dude. :coffee:
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GannonFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
What about a solar powered hemp plastic factory...man!
That helps. Still need oil for a lot of other things. Dude. :coffee:
No way, brah. Hemp bubble packaging, hemp styrofoam, hemp seed oil lubricants...

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CAA Flagship wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Never..?
That seems like a long time

:?
Never is in dog years........in Heaven. :nod:
Finally,
somebody talkin' some common sense over here

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I got it!

Autonomous cars with hemp composite bodies (Ford did that in the 40's), that run on solar powered batteries, have hemp air bags, instrument controls, and drive hemp seed oil asphalt.
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kalm wrote:I got it!

Autonomous cars with hemp composite bodies (Ford did that in the 40's), that run on solar powered batteries, have hemp air bags, instrument controls, and drive hemp seed oil asphalt.
I believe we already agreed... NEVER was the answer

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Chizzang wrote:
kalm wrote:I got it!

Autonomous cars with hemp composite bodies (Ford did that in the 40's), that run on solar powered batteries, have hemp air bags, instrument controls, and drive hemp seed oil asphalt.
I believe we already agreed... NEVER was the answer

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SeattleGriz wrote:Intelligent Design tells me they are a bunch of lying fuckers.
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kalm wrote:I got it!

Autonomous cars with hemp composite bodies (Ford did that in the 40's), that run on solar powered batteries, have hemp air bags, instrument controls, and drive hemp seed oil asphalt.
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