Well it wasn't corporate. That was built on slavery.Ibanez wrote:So what was the agrarian economy before that? Site work?Chizzang wrote:
Industrial revolution...
Built, not founded... Built
See: Railway / Steel / Henry Ford / Blah blah blah
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Mount Vernon, Inc. wasn't a bad company. It was certainly better managed than Monticello, LLCGrizalltheway wrote:Well it wasn't corporate.Ibanez wrote: So what was the agrarian economy before that? Site work?
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Doesn’t it get annoying swatting all the gadflies away after you post something profoundChizzang wrote:Industrial revolution...kalm wrote:
When was this country built?
Built, not founded... Built
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Trying to stay out of likely bullet pathsBDKJMU wrote:The SS is usually on either side of the POTUS, almost close enough to be rubbing elbows. Where are they?JohnStOnge wrote:If you don't see the problem, you're not looking to see.
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Chizzang wrote:I sincerely believe if you can't find something to enjoy about this presidency and its administration
You're missing some major data points as well as have no sense of humor
Is the President a childish twat... Absolutely
Is he alarmingly dishonest... Check
Is he shockingly uninformed... Obviously
But, if you stop there you're going to miss the show
and largely miss the real takeaway points
His foreign Policy
without question is a better position for America considering the present global situation
His corporate policy
Is simply embracing the principals that built this country (Like it or not, American is Corporation First)
Having one last old white bigot pseudo billionaire
run the show before we completely switch over to socialism in the next 20 years isn't all bad
Don't forget the the warm-an-old-hippie's-heart spectacle of the Party of Law and Order and the FBI destroying each others credibility.....Republicans and FBfvckingI just chewing the shit out of each other...fvcking beautiful
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Shut it, CID! It was a sincere question. J ust curious if he thinks Trumps corporate policy is similar to corporate policy in the late 1900’s, early 20th, mid 20th, etc.CID1990 wrote:Doesn’t it get annoying swatting all the gadflies away after you post something profoundChizzang wrote:
Industrial revolution...
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Chizzang wrote: His foreign Policy
without question is a better position for America considering the present global situation
His corporate policy
Is simply embracing the principals that built this country (Like it or not, American is Corporation First)
Having one last old white bigot pseudo billionaire
run the show before we completely switch over to socialism in the next 20 years isn't all bad
Why didn't you vote for him?
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For exactly the opposite reasons I didn't vote for Hilary ClintonSkjellyfetti wrote:Chizzang wrote: His foreign Policy
without question is a better position for America considering the present global situation
His corporate policy
Is simply embracing the principals that built this country (Like it or not, American is Corporation First)
Having one last old white bigot pseudo billionaire
run the show before we completely switch over to socialism in the next 20 years isn't all bad
Why didn't you vote for him?
A better question might be...
Are we capable of standing back from something
Even something as embarrassing and ridiculous as Donald Trump
and just admiring the spectacle
whilst recognizing what might be good or at least asking ourselves "can anything good come of this?"
and if so... am I capable of recognizing it when it happens
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What happened to the deficit hawks?
The Trump Stimulus is set to be bigger than Obama's.
The Trump Stimulus is set to be bigger than Obama's.
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Hanging out with the Democrat Russia DovesSkjellyfetti wrote:What happened to the deficit hawks?
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Stormy Daniels will take Drumpf down before Mueller does. You heard it here first.
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If Juanita Broderick, Gennnifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, Monica Lewinsky etc, didn't bring down Clinton, why would Stormy bring down Trump?Ivytalk wrote:Stormy Daniels will take Drumpf down before Mueller does. You heard it here first.
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Clinton lied under oath and was impeached. Drumpf will suffer the same fate.BDKJMU wrote:If Juanita Broderick, Gennnifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, Monica Lewinsky etc, didn't bring down Clinton, why would Stormy bring down Trump?Ivytalk wrote:Stormy Daniels will take Drumpf down before Mueller does. You heard it here first.
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Which is why Trumps legal team will NEVER let him speak under oath...Ivytalk wrote:Clinton lied under oath and was impeached. Drumpf will suffer the same fate.BDKJMU wrote: If Juanita Broderick, Gennnifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, Monica Lewinsky etc, didn't bring down Clinton, why would Stormy bring down Trump?
Trump can't talk for 3 minutes without lying
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Will Trump follow his legal team's advice over his own need to demonstrate how terrific he is?Chizzang wrote:Which is why Trumps legal team will NEVER let him speak under oath...Ivytalk wrote: Clinton lied under oath and was impeached. Drumpf will suffer the same fate.
Trump can't talk for 3 minutes without lying
He's absolutely pathological in that respect
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I think if he wants to talk there won’t be much his legal team can do to stop himUNI88 wrote:Will Trump follow his legal team's advice over his own need to demonstrate how terrific he is?Chizzang wrote:
Which is why Trumps legal team will NEVER let him speak under oath...
Trump can't talk for 3 minutes without lying
He's absolutely pathological in that respect
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HIVBDKJMU wrote:If Juanita Broderick, Gennnifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, Monica Lewinsky etc, didn't bring down Clinton, why would Stormy bring down Trump?Ivytalk wrote:Stormy Daniels will take Drumpf down before Mueller does. You heard it here first.
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I just did some numbers for an e mail response I sent to a brother of mine who claims to be a Christian but has completely rationalized support for Trump. I'll post them here now. It's the wages thing. You know, him claiming that wages were stagnant then HE took office and all of a sudden they took off.
You can see some Bureau of Labor Statistics information on wages over time at https://www.bls.gov/news.release/wkyeng.t01.htm. ; The inflation adjusted columns are the "constant (1982 - 1984) dollars" columns. I don't know why they decided to use 1982-1984 dollars but that's what they did. Anyway, I made a graph of 1st quarter 2009 through 4th quarter 2017 of inflation adjusted "median usual weekly wages" for all people (Total). And there is no indication at all of some kind of change in the trend coinciding with either Trump getting elected or Trump taking office.
First note that the horizontal axis is labeled to identify the quarters of each year. I did that by indicating the year then adding the quarter number. So 20091 is the first quarter of 2009 at one end of the axis and 20172 is the second quarter of 2017 near the other end. Here is the graph:
What you can see is that the "median usual weekly wages" in inflation adjusted (constant dollars) terms bottomed out in the 2nd quarter of 2014 and has been generally rising ever since. There is absolutely no suggestion of a change in the trend associated with Trump.
There is no suggestion that Trump getting elected has changed the positive trend. But the positive trend didn't start with him getting elected.
It's the same kind of thing. If one were to look at the graph without knowing about who was in office when there is no way one would think something happened around the end of 2016 and the beginning of 2017 to change things. There's no "it was bad but Trump got elected and now it's good" type of thing.
Notice, by the way, that the largest drop of the period is between the third and fourth quarters of 2017. I would love to jump on that and say it's a negative for Trump. But at this point it could be random variation.
You can see some Bureau of Labor Statistics information on wages over time at https://www.bls.gov/news.release/wkyeng.t01.htm. ; The inflation adjusted columns are the "constant (1982 - 1984) dollars" columns. I don't know why they decided to use 1982-1984 dollars but that's what they did. Anyway, I made a graph of 1st quarter 2009 through 4th quarter 2017 of inflation adjusted "median usual weekly wages" for all people (Total). And there is no indication at all of some kind of change in the trend coinciding with either Trump getting elected or Trump taking office.
First note that the horizontal axis is labeled to identify the quarters of each year. I did that by indicating the year then adding the quarter number. So 20091 is the first quarter of 2009 at one end of the axis and 20172 is the second quarter of 2017 near the other end. Here is the graph:
What you can see is that the "median usual weekly wages" in inflation adjusted (constant dollars) terms bottomed out in the 2nd quarter of 2014 and has been generally rising ever since. There is absolutely no suggestion of a change in the trend associated with Trump.
There is no suggestion that Trump getting elected has changed the positive trend. But the positive trend didn't start with him getting elected.
It's the same kind of thing. If one were to look at the graph without knowing about who was in office when there is no way one would think something happened around the end of 2016 and the beginning of 2017 to change things. There's no "it was bad but Trump got elected and now it's good" type of thing.
Notice, by the way, that the largest drop of the period is between the third and fourth quarters of 2017. I would love to jump on that and say it's a negative for Trump. But at this point it could be random variation.
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JohnStOnge wrote:I just did some numbers for an e mail response I sent to a brother of mine who claims to be a Christian but has completely rationalized support for Trump. I'll post them here now. It's the wages thing. You know, him claiming that wages were stagnant then HE took office and all of a sudden they took off.
You can see some Bureau of Labor Statistics information on wages over time at https://www.bls.gov/news.release/wkyeng.t01.htm. ; The inflation adjusted columns are the "constant (1982 - 1984) dollars" columns. I don't know why they decided to use 1982-1984 dollars but that's what they did. Anyway, I made a graph of 1st quarter 2009 through 4th quarter 2017 of inflation adjusted "median usual weekly wages" for all people (Total). And there is no indication at all of some kind of change in the trend coinciding with either Trump getting elected or Trump taking office.
First note that the horizontal axis is labeled to identify the quarters of each year. I did that by indicating the year then adding the quarter number. So 20091 is the first quarter of 2009 at one end of the axis and 20172 is the second quarter of 2017 near the other end. Here is the graph:
What you can see is that the "median usual weekly wages" in inflation adjusted (constant dollars) terms bottomed out in the 2nd quarter of 2014 and has been generally rising ever since. There is absolutely no suggestion of a change in the trend associated with Trump.
There is no suggestion that Trump getting elected has changed the positive trend. But the positive trend didn't start with him getting elected.
It's the same kind of thing. If one were to look at the graph without knowing about who was in office when there is no way one would think something happened around the end of 2016 and the beginning of 2017 to change things. There's no "it was bad but Trump got elected and now it's good" type of thing.
Notice, by the way, that the largest drop of the period is between the third and fourth quarters of 2017. I would love to jump on that and say it's a negative for Trump. But at this point it could be random variation.
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He’s the one to whom I usually say, “Return here at peril of your motherfvcking kneecaps.”BDKJMU wrote:JohnStOnge wrote:I just did some numbers for an e mail response I sent to a brother of mine who claims to be a Christian but has completely rationalized support for Trump. I'll post them here now. It's the wages thing. You know, him claiming that wages were stagnant then HE took office and all of a sudden they took off.
You can see some Bureau of Labor Statistics information on wages over time at https://www.bls.gov/news.release/wkyeng.t01.htm. ; The inflation adjusted columns are the "constant (1982 - 1984) dollars" columns. I don't know why they decided to use 1982-1984 dollars but that's what they did. Anyway, I made a graph of 1st quarter 2009 through 4th quarter 2017 of inflation adjusted "median usual weekly wages" for all people (Total). And there is no indication at all of some kind of change in the trend coinciding with either Trump getting elected or Trump taking office.
First note that the horizontal axis is labeled to identify the quarters of each year. I did that by indicating the year then adding the quarter number. So 20091 is the first quarter of 2009 at one end of the axis and 20172 is the second quarter of 2017 near the other end. Here is the graph:
What you can see is that the "median usual weekly wages" in inflation adjusted (constant dollars) terms bottomed out in the 2nd quarter of 2014 and has been generally rising ever since. There is absolutely no suggestion of a change in the trend associated with Trump.
There is no suggestion that Trump getting elected has changed the positive trend. But the positive trend didn't start with him getting elected.
It's the same kind of thing. If one were to look at the graph without knowing about who was in office when there is no way one would think something happened around the end of 2016 and the beginning of 2017 to change things. There's no "it was bad but Trump got elected and now it's good" type of thing.
Notice, by the way, that the largest drop of the period is between the third and fourth quarters of 2017. I would love to jump on that and say it's a negative for Trump. But at this point it could be random variation.
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It’s the economy.JohnStOnge wrote:I just did some numbers for an e mail response I sent to a brother of mine who claims to be a Christian but has completely rationalized support for Trump. I'll post them here now. It's the wages thing. You know, him claiming that wages were stagnant then HE took office and all of a sudden they took off.
You can see some Bureau of Labor Statistics information on wages over time at https://www.bls.gov/news.release/wkyeng.t01.htm. ; The inflation adjusted columns are the "constant (1982 - 1984) dollars" columns. I don't know why they decided to use 1982-1984 dollars but that's what they did. Anyway, I made a graph of 1st quarter 2009 through 4th quarter 2017 of inflation adjusted "median usual weekly wages" for all people (Total). And there is no indication at all of some kind of change in the trend coinciding with either Trump getting elected or Trump taking office.
First note that the horizontal axis is labeled to identify the quarters of each year. I did that by indicating the year then adding the quarter number. So 20091 is the first quarter of 2009 at one end of the axis and 20172 is the second quarter of 2017 near the other end. Here is the graph:
What you can see is that the "median usual weekly wages" in inflation adjusted (constant dollars) terms bottomed out in the 2nd quarter of 2014 and has been generally rising ever since. There is absolutely no suggestion of a change in the trend associated with Trump.
There is no suggestion that Trump getting elected has changed the positive trend. But the positive trend didn't start with him getting elected.
It's the same kind of thing. If one were to look at the graph without knowing about who was in office when there is no way one would think something happened around the end of 2016 and the beginning of 2017 to change things. There's no "it was bad but Trump got elected and now it's good" type of thing.
Notice, by the way, that the largest drop of the period is between the third and fourth quarters of 2017. I would love to jump on that and say it's a negative for Trump. But at this point it could be random variation.
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It's so plain to see.Ibanez wrote:It’s the economy.JohnStOnge wrote:I just did some numbers for an e mail response I sent to a brother of mine who claims to be a Christian but has completely rationalized support for Trump. I'll post them here now. It's the wages thing. You know, him claiming that wages were stagnant then HE took office and all of a sudden they took off.
You can see some Bureau of Labor Statistics information on wages over time at https://www.bls.gov/news.release/wkyeng.t01.htm. ; The inflation adjusted columns are the "constant (1982 - 1984) dollars" columns. I don't know why they decided to use 1982-1984 dollars but that's what they did. Anyway, I made a graph of 1st quarter 2009 through 4th quarter 2017 of inflation adjusted "median usual weekly wages" for all people (Total). And there is no indication at all of some kind of change in the trend coinciding with either Trump getting elected or Trump taking office.
First note that the horizontal axis is labeled to identify the quarters of each year. I did that by indicating the year then adding the quarter number. So 20091 is the first quarter of 2009 at one end of the axis and 20172 is the second quarter of 2017 near the other end. Here is the graph:
What you can see is that the "median usual weekly wages" in inflation adjusted (constant dollars) terms bottomed out in the 2nd quarter of 2014 and has been generally rising ever since. There is absolutely no suggestion of a change in the trend associated with Trump.
There is no suggestion that Trump getting elected has changed the positive trend. But the positive trend didn't start with him getting elected.
It's the same kind of thing. If one were to look at the graph without knowing about who was in office when there is no way one would think something happened around the end of 2016 and the beginning of 2017 to change things. There's no "it was bad but Trump got elected and now it's good" type of thing.
Notice, by the way, that the largest drop of the period is between the third and fourth quarters of 2017. I would love to jump on that and say it's a negative for Trump. But at this point it could be random variation.
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Have your fun guys. But I think you can see that it's another situation in which the rooster is trying to claim credit for the sunrise.
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John,JohnStOnge wrote:Have your fun guys. But I think you can see that it's another situation in which the rooster is trying to claim credit for the sunrise.
The rooster only has to make the statement
Bias confirmation will take of the rest
We all find what we're looking for
if its there or not (doesn't matter)
For someone who lives with a fundamentalist Christian
You should recognize most of this behavior already
Your obsession with "The truth" is merely one quick side step
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Repeat after me, John: there are no absolute truths in social science.JohnStOnge wrote:Have your fun guys. But I think you can see that it's another situation in which the rooster is trying to claim credit for the sunrise.
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