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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:36 pm
by CID1990
Pwns wrote:
CID1990 wrote:Thomas Friedman has an article in the NYT today, titled something like the American Civil War Part II or something like that. It was a pretty good one but where I found my spirit animal was in the comments section (as usual):

"It is not tribalism that is splitting the country. It is ignorance and mistrust, poured over a foundation of materialism, greed and exceptionalism. There has been a long period of dumbing-down, as life speeds up with technology taking center stage, schools crumbling and failing, and hard-learned lessons of history, civility and international understanding being forgotten. To write this off as "tribalism" minimizes and deflects. A significant part of the country is settling for a very low standard of thought and behavior, and that's not a tribal characteristic."

Man this commenter has the gift of synthesis I wish I had
That comment is spot on.

The article is biased garbage that talks about tribalism and reconciliation while blaming only one political party.
Yeah he went off the rails there for a while. I think this commenter got piqued at that and this was an excellent response to it.

Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:05 am
by kalm
Pwns wrote:
CID1990 wrote:Thomas Friedman has an article in the NYT today, titled something like the American Civil War Part II or something like that. It was a pretty good one but where I found my spirit animal was in the comments section (as usual):

"It is not tribalism that is splitting the country. It is ignorance and mistrust, poured over a foundation of materialism, greed and exceptionalism. There has been a long period of dumbing-down, as life speeds up with technology taking center stage, schools crumbling and failing, and hard-learned lessons of history, civility and international understanding being forgotten. To write this off as "tribalism" minimizes and deflects. A significant part of the country is settling for a very low standard of thought and behavior, and that's not a tribal characteristic."

Man this commenter has the gift of synthesis I wish I had
That comment is spot on.

The article is biased garbage that talks about tribalism and reconciliation while blaming only one political party.
Tribalism exists but it’s mostly a symptom. I think the majority is closer to agreement or at least acceptNce on many issues. The binary nature of our politics and dislike of the other is what drives people apart rather than embracing “my side”.

Not disagreeing with you two here. I agree it goes back to narrow mindedness.

Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:06 pm
by Winterborn
For the Pennsylvania drivers.
A bill to put speed cameras in active construction zones on the state's highways, as well as the turnpike, was approved by the Pennsylvania Senate on Oct. 2, and is now on its way to Gov. Wolf, the Reading Eagle reported. The bill was approved by the House the week of Sept. 24. According to local law makers, it is meant to help make work zones safer by cutting down on speeding.
https://www.constructionequipmentguide. ... bill/42154

Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:04 pm
by ∞∞∞
I just watched a video of the new Amazon Go stores and I think we need to strongly consider a universal basic income. The tech Amazon is using is absolutely bonkers; it's going to usher in the age of stores with no employees. And Walmart is already developing its own system with Microsoft.

Once the rest of the industry follows - and it will - I don't see how we make up such a large portion of the American economy. I don't say we need UBI because of "handouts" and "socialism," but of genuine concern that the US (and world) economy won't be able to make up the jobs elsewhere.

Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:22 pm
by Col Hogan
∞∞∞ wrote:I just watched a video of the new Amazon Go stores and I think we need to strongly consider a universal basic income. The tech Amazon is using is absolutely bonkers; it's going to usher in the age of stores with no employees. And Walmart is already developing its own system with Microsoft.

Once the rest of the industry follows - and it will - I don't see how we make up such a large portion of the American economy. I don't say we need UBI because of "handouts" and "socialism," but of genuine concern that the US (and world) economy won't be able to make up the jobs elsewhere.
For someone who claims to be “progressive” you sound like the people who screamed that the Industrial Revolution” would create mass, unmanageable unemployment...which brought us Karl Marx...

Now, here comes yet another possible revolution, and Karl Trip is screaming for free handouts...

:rofl:

:coffee:

Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:44 pm
by CID1990
∞∞∞ wrote:I just watched a video of the new Amazon Go stores and I think we need to strongly consider a universal basic income. The tech Amazon is using is absolutely bonkers; it's going to usher in the age of stores with no employees. And Walmart is already developing its own system with Microsoft.

Once the rest of the industry follows - and it will - I don't see how we make up such a large portion of the American economy. I don't say we need UBI because of "handouts" and "socialism," but of genuine concern that the US (and world) economy won't be able to make up the jobs elsewhere.
Hey Treep

I'm not completely opposed to a government provided basic income.. in fact I think it already exists for those who need it (see Sec 8 housing, welfare, WIC, etc)

But let's say we do enact UBI:

How much should it be? The same in New York as it is in Oklahoma? The same for a couple with 5 kids as a couple with 2?

And what welfare programs should we drop in favor of it? In other words, once Johnny has his UBI, what assistance can we safely stop offering him?

And I'll even come out and say it in advance... this is a total trap. Klam might advise you to tiptoe on past it


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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:00 pm
by css75
∞∞∞ wrote:I just watched a video of the new Amazon Go stores and I think we need to strongly consider a universal basic income. The tech Amazon is using is absolutely bonkers; it's going to usher in the age of stores with no employees. And Walmart is already developing its own system with Microsoft.

Once the rest of the industry follows - and it will - I don't see how we make up such a large portion of the American economy. I don't say we need UBI because of "handouts" and "socialism," but of genuine concern that the US (and world) economy won't be able to make up the jobs elsewhere.

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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:19 am
by 93henfan
Drunk birds in Minnesota!
A flock of drunk birds just looking for a good time out on the town is disrupting the peace of Gilbert, Minnesota. In Gilbert, an early frost has fermented local berries, leading to young birds getting drunk from eating them. This, in turn, has led to unorthodox behavior from these winged residents: flying lower than usual, crashing into cars and windows, and losing their balance...
http://time.com/5415378/drunk-birds-minnesota/

Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:12 am
by kalm
CID1990 wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:I just watched a video of the new Amazon Go stores and I think we need to strongly consider a universal basic income. The tech Amazon is using is absolutely bonkers; it's going to usher in the age of stores with no employees. And Walmart is already developing its own system with Microsoft.

Once the rest of the industry follows - and it will - I don't see how we make up such a large portion of the American economy. I don't say we need UBI because of "handouts" and "socialism," but of genuine concern that the US (and world) economy won't be able to make up the jobs elsewhere.
Hey Treep

I'm not completely opposed to a government provided basic income.. in fact I think it already exists for those who need it (see Sec 8 housing, welfare, WIC, etc)

But let's say we do enact UBI:

How much should it be? The same in New York as it is in Oklahoma? The same for a couple with 5 kids as a couple with 2?

And what welfare programs should we drop in favor of it? In other words, once Johnny has his UBI, what assistance can we safely stop offering him?

And I'll even come out and say it in advance... this is a total trap. Klam might advise you to tiptoe on past it


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:lol:

I can't wait for the day when I can put a self check-in and payment kiosk on #1 tee. :nod:

Of course the golf demographic is similar to Delaware football nation and not exactly what you'd describe as "early adopters."

The simple solution to New York vs. Oklahoma is to move all the UBI New Yorkers TO Oklahoma. They'll fit right in for the most part after they each get over the accent thing. Think of it as a progressive Trail of Tears.

Gentrification is a beautiful thing. Make NYC Great Again!






:mrgreen:

Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:25 am
by mainejeff
At some point technology will have to be stymied in order to protect our system of government and our economy based on income & wealth. We shall call it.....The New Dark Ages.

:coffee:

Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:34 am
by CID1990
kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Hey Treep

I'm not completely opposed to a government provided basic income.. in fact I think it already exists for those who need it (see Sec 8 housing, welfare, WIC, etc)

But let's say we do enact UBI:

How much should it be? The same in New York as it is in Oklahoma? The same for a couple with 5 kids as a couple with 2?

And what welfare programs should we drop in favor of it? In other words, once Johnny has his UBI, what assistance can we safely stop offering him?

And I'll even come out and say it in advance... this is a total trap. Klam might advise you to tiptoe on past it


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:lol:

I can't wait for the day when I can put a self check-in and payment kiosk on #1 tee. :nod:

Of course the golf demographic is similar to Delaware football nation and not exactly what you'd describe as "early adopters."

The simple solution to New York vs. Oklahoma is to move all the UBI New Yorkers TO Oklahoma. They'll fit right in for the most part after they each get over the accent thing. Think of it as a progressive Trail of Tears.

Gentrification is a beautiful thing. Make NYC Great Again!






:mrgreen:
How can you tell people where they can and cannot live, klam? Are you some kind of Leninist? Arent we a free people? Free to live where we wish?

BTW stop stealing my thunder asshole

this is meant for TREEP


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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:39 am
by mainejeff
Oklahoma will be uninhabitable in another decade. Same with West Virginia.

:coffee:

Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:54 am
by kalm
CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
:lol:

I can't wait for the day when I can put a self check-in and payment kiosk on #1 tee. :nod:

Of course the golf demographic is similar to Delaware football nation and not exactly what you'd describe as "early adopters."

The simple solution to New York vs. Oklahoma is to move all the UBI New Yorkers TO Oklahoma. They'll fit right in for the most part after they each get over the accent thing. Think of it as a progressive Trail of Tears.

Gentrification is a beautiful thing. Make NYC Great Again!






:mrgreen:
How can you tell people where they can and cannot live, klam? Are you some kind of Leninist? Arent we a free people? Free to live where we wish?

BTW stop stealing my thunder asshole

this is meant for TREEP


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:lol:

Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:54 am
by CAA Flagship
93henfan wrote:Drunk birds in Minnesota!
A flock of drunk birds just looking for a good time out on the town is disrupting the peace of Gilbert, Minnesota. In Gilbert, an early frost has fermented local berries, leading to young birds getting drunk from eating them. This, in turn, has led to unorthodox behavior from these winged residents: flying lower than usual, crashing into cars and windows, and losing their balance...
http://time.com/5415378/drunk-birds-minnesota/
Old news. Eagles fans at Super Bowl LII. :coffee:

Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:02 am
by 93henfan
CAA Flagship wrote:
93henfan wrote:Drunk birds in Minnesota!

http://time.com/5415378/drunk-birds-minnesota/
Old news. Eagles fans at Super Bowl LII. :coffee:
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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:10 am
by CAA Flagship
93henfan wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: Old news. Eagles fans at Super Bowl LII. :coffee:
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:33 am
by css75
CAA Flagship wrote:
93henfan wrote:Drunk birds in Minnesota!

http://time.com/5415378/drunk-birds-minnesota/
Old news. Eagles fans at Super Bowl LII. :coffee:
Except they don’t eat horse poop.


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Re: RE: Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:09 pm
by UNI88
CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
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I can't wait for the day when I can put a self check-in and payment kiosk on #1 tee. :nod:

Of course the golf demographic is similar to Delaware football nation and not exactly what you'd describe as "early adopters."

The simple solution to New York vs. Oklahoma is to move all the UBI New Yorkers TO Oklahoma. They'll fit right in for the most part after they each get over the accent thing. Think of it as a progressive Trail of Tears.

Gentrification is a beautiful thing. Make NYC Great Again!






:mrgreen:
How can you tell people where they can and cannot live, klam? Are you some kind of Leninist? Arent we a free people? Free to live where we wish?

BTW stop stealing my thunder asshole

this is meant for TREEP


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You can't but you can set a flat UBI that works in Oklahoma. If someone wants to stay in New York then they have to make up the difference.

Re: RE: Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:27 pm
by kalm
UNI88 wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
How can you tell people where they can and cannot live, klam? Are you some kind of Leninist? Arent we a free people? Free to live where we wish?

BTW stop stealing my thunder asshole

this is meant for TREEP


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You can't but you can set a flat UBI that works in Oklahoma. If someone wants to stay in New York then they have to make up the difference.
So it would be a federal program? That would make sense then. Or even better, let each state decide and if someone can’t afford it even with UBI they can move to where the wind goes whipping ‘cross the plain.

(Man my conk street cred has to be through the roof by now!)

Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:54 pm
by Chizzang
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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:09 pm
by CID1990
The Orwell Award goes to Vox talking about rising deductibles and dissatisfaction with our healthcare system without once mentioning the ACA....

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... ealth-care


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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:38 am
by Pwns
https://www.foxnews.com/tech/google-exe ... ll-to-hell

Ladies and Gents, Google, the company that wields the power to control what news and commentary people will see, wants to play Ministry of Truth and decide what fake news is. And as difficult as it is to boycott them they are insulated from consequences.

Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:25 am
by Pwns

Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:47 am
by Chizzang
Pwns wrote:https://www.foxnews.com/tech/google-exe ... ll-to-hell

Ladies and Gents, Google, the company that wields the power to control what news and commentary people will see, wants to play Ministry of Truth and decide what fake news is. And as difficult as it is to boycott them they are insulated from consequences.
You'll want to use Bing from here on out....
and also: See Comcast if you want to know about insulation from consequences
Protected from on high by our very own (pick the winners) Federal Government

:lol:

Welcome to the new Normal

Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:55 pm
by CID1990
Chizzang wrote:
Pwns wrote:https://www.foxnews.com/tech/google-exe ... ll-to-hell

Ladies and Gents, Google, the company that wields the power to control what news and commentary people will see, wants to play Ministry of Truth and decide what fake news is. And as difficult as it is to boycott them they are insulated from consequences.
You'll want to use Bing from here on out....
and also: See Comcast if you want to know about insulation from consequences
Protected from on high by our very own (pick the winners) Federal Government

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Welcome to the new Normal
Is Bing useful, or are you being facetious?


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