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JohnStOnge wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Things Brennan was responsible for:

Recommending we NOT strike OBL in 1998
Stated jihad is a "legitimate tenet of Islam"
Lied about Al Qaeda's eminent demise
Lying to congress
CIA Chief in Riyadh in 1996 during bombing of Khobar Towers & killing of 19 servicemen
Spying on Presidential candidates
Fabricating stories about attacks on US personnel in Libya
Providing weapons to ISIS backed militias in Syria
Requiring Benghazi survivors to lie about the truth

I respectfully disagree with your last statement.
You are truly lost if you disagree with the statement that the guy hadn't done anything to justify taking his clearance away.
John, if THAT list isn’t enough, then it’s YOU that’s lost, bub. Not me. Had I been elected president he’d have lost it on day 1. Along with Rice and Hillary. Anybody...and I mean ANYBODY...involved in the Benghazi coverup would have lost their clearance and been summarily escorted from whatever government job they held. They purposely covered up the true story of Benghazi in an effort to ensure Obama got reelected.

Apparently in your warped sense of right and wrong, that’s ok now?
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Pwns wrote:
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Hey, Pwns, what is a Nazi? You call people that, yet you have no idea what one is.


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You and the rest of the reich wing hatemonger bigots.
Nice job snowflake, you mUst be a millennial, as you are too lazy and uneducated to define a Nazi, yet you call people that. When a person has no ideas or clue of what is going on, they resort to name calling. Typical illiterate snowflake.


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BDKJMU wrote:
Pwns wrote:An example of your mind being so open that there's no neurons left...

https://www.dailywire.com/news/34581/am ... 51717-news

:ohno:
I'm going sailing off the coast of Somalia. What could wrong?

"American Couple Believing 'Evil Is A Make-Believe Concept'"
Well, evil apparently gets pissed when you don't believe in it..

For a couple of college grads, dumb as a box of rocks. Darwinism at work..

I seen that earlier today, they must be related to some of our lib friends on this board. Certainly deserve to win a Darwin Award.


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Oldie but I don't think I have ever seen a more unique news headline.

"Sex pigs halt traffic after laser attack on Pokémon teens"
Tiny Insjön in central Sweden isn't known for pig mask-wearing couples shooting lasers at Pokémon hunters before having sex by a waterwheel. But that could be about to change.
https://www.thelocal.se/20160816/pig-ma ... ter-attack
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Chizzang wrote:
Pwns wrote:An example of your mind being so open that there's no neurons left...

https://www.dailywire.com/news/34581/am ... 51717-news

:ohno:
I wish the video of them being stabbed to death could be shown to the average American
These lovely harmless kids in their bright clothing and happy attitudes
riding their bikes for peace and love
literally as harmless as children

Every social justice community organizer needs a good long review of this scenario as well
For all the people that think that "Islam is just like every religion"

Which is as dumb a statement as every sport (replace sport with Religion) is the same
MMA and boxing as well as badminton and bowling all fall under "sports"

They aren't the same
not even remotely "the same" and this needs to be a GLOBAL UPDATE for the world
even if it hurts peoples feelings that we're singling out a group

The world needs to wake the fuck up

Even if they watched it, it wouldn't do any good. They would claim that they weren't "nice" or "respectful" enough and if they would of done something different it wouldn't of happened. When in fact there are people in this world that just do not care about peaceful coexistence and no amount of "happy" thoughts or deeds are going to get them to change.
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dbackjon wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Why does a former ANYTHING need to still have a security clearance? Should have been revoked the day he was removed from the position.

Hmmm You don't think that new people in a security position would EVER have the need to consult with experts that handled the same issues before?

It's just common sense - the CIA, FBI, NSA - most are dedicated professionals that are willing to help their successors regardless of party - with advice, etc.
You mean like when they were consulted about WMD's in Iraq in the early 2000's?

Go on...
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Col Hogan wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Things Brennan was responsible for:

Recommending we NOT strike OBL in 1998
Stated jihad is a "legitimate tenet of Islam"
Lied about Al Qaeda's eminent demise
Lying to congress
CIA Chief in Riyadh in 1996 during bombing of Khobar Towers & killing of 19 servicemen
Spying on Presidential candidates
Fabricating stories about attacks on US personnel in Libya
Providing weapons to ISIS backed militias in Syria
Requiring Benghazi survivors to lie about the truth

I respectfully disagree with your last statement.
Then, there is this...

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This sums it up quite well...Brennan talking out of both sides of his mouth...as if he is using his clearance to help out his political agenda...
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JohnStOnge wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Things Brennan was responsible for:

Recommending we NOT strike OBL in 1998
Stated jihad is a "legitimate tenet of Islam"
Lied about Al Qaeda's eminent demise
Lying to congress
CIA Chief in Riyadh in 1996 during bombing of Khobar Towers & killing of 19 servicemen
Spying on Presidential candidates
Fabricating stories about attacks on US personnel in Libya
Providing weapons to ISIS backed militias in Syria
Requiring Benghazi survivors to lie about the truth

I respectfully disagree with your last statement.
You are truly lost if you disagree with the statement that the guy hadn't done anything to justify taking his clearance away.
How often do ex-CIA Directors get hired by the msm as key contributors?
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That would require a debate on the merits of those things you accuse him of-

And some of them are true, some of them are out of context, and some of them are not true

As it stands, those things do not justify yanking his clearance

They do justify him being cashiered (if he was still an exec branch employee). But a clearance is a different animal. Trump is within his authority to do it, but traditionally it is done with specific examples of how he is a credible national security risk

And let’s not forget - the currently self righteous left will once again be in power one day, and their righteousness in this matter will disappear as they start doing the same things Trump has done in retaliation
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Col Hogan wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Things Brennan was responsible for:

Recommending we NOT strike OBL in 1998
Stated jihad is a "legitimate tenet of Islam"
Lied about Al Qaeda's eminent demise
Lying to congress
CIA Chief in Riyadh in 1996 during bombing of Khobar Towers & killing of 19 servicemen
Spying on Presidential candidates
Fabricating stories about attacks on US personnel in Libya
Providing weapons to ISIS backed militias in Syria
Requiring Benghazi survivors to lie about the truth

I respectfully disagree with your last statement.
Then, there is this...

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I’m sure Burr (who never served), Trump, and whatever hack site AZ gets his info from know more than McRaven.

https://www.businessinsider.com/navy-se ... nce-2018-8

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kalm wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
Then, there is this...

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I’m sure Burr (who never served), Trump, and whatever hack site AZ gets his info from know more than McRaven.

https://www.businessinsider.com/navy-se ... nce-2018-8

:lol:
I get my info straight from the sources who were there.
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dbackjon wrote:

Hmmm You don't think that new people in a security position would EVER have the need to consult with experts that handled the same issues before?

It's just common sense - the CIA, FBI, NSA - most are dedicated professionals that are willing to help their successors regardless of party - with advice, etc.
Yes, agreed...MOST are...but when they’re proven liars and traitors like Brennan, then having it removed should come as no surprise.
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Brennan is a lying POS and I have no problem with him having his security clearance yanked.

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kalm wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
Then, there is this...

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I’m sure Burr (who never served), Trump, and whatever hack site AZ gets his info from know more than McRaven.

https://www.businessinsider.com/navy-se ... nce-2018-8

:lol:
McRaven's quote in the article about Brennan is :rofl: :rofl:

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HI54UNI wrote:
kalm wrote:
I’m sure Burr (who never served), Trump, and whatever hack site AZ gets his info from know more than McRaven.

https://www.businessinsider.com/navy-se ... nce-2018-8

:lol:
McRaven's quote in the article about Brennan is :rofl: :rofl:

"He is a man of unparalleled integrity, whose honesty and character have never been in question, except by those who don't know him," McRaven said.
All that tells me is that McRaven is part of the problem, not part of the solution. And I don’t care WHAT his “background” is...
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McRaven was a warrior...at one time...and for that, I honor him...

But he became a political animal...on the wrong side...there is no need to honor anything he does under that banner...

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CID1990 wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Things Brennan was responsible for:

Recommending we NOT strike OBL in 1998
Stated jihad is a "legitimate tenet of Islam"
Lied about Al Qaeda's eminent demise
Lying to congress
CIA Chief in Riyadh in 1996 during bombing of Khobar Towers & killing of 19 servicemen
Spying on Presidential candidates
Fabricating stories about attacks on US personnel in Libya
Providing weapons to ISIS backed militias in Syria
Requiring Benghazi survivors to lie about the truth

I respectfully disagree with your last statement.
Trump cited none of those things

But I'm sure he'll get around to it retroactively


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Yup. Trump cited his commentary, which isn’t flattering.


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css75 wrote:
Pwns wrote:
You and the rest of the reich wing hatemonger bigots.
Nice job snowflake, you mUst be a millennial, as you are too lazy and uneducated to define a Nazi, yet you call people that. When a person has no ideas or clue of what is going on, they resort to name calling. Typical illiterate snowflake.


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SDHornet wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

Hmmm You don't think that new people in a security position would EVER have the need to consult with experts that handled the same issues before?

It's just common sense - the CIA, FBI, NSA - most are dedicated professionals that are willing to help their successors regardless of party - with advice, etc.
You mean like when they were consulted about WMD's in Iraq in the early 2000's?

Go on...

Like most, there are good and bad guys, and a wide range of assessments The Bush Admin just presented those that fit their narrative, and surpressed those that disagreed with them.



If a Democratic President attacked the FBI, CIA, etc like Trump does on a daily basis, he'd be impeached already. But the GOP is so deep in Trumpshit they are too chicken, or too compromised to stand up to him.
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Ibanez wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Trump cited none of those things

But I'm sure he'll get around to it retroactively


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Yup. Trump cited his commentary, which isn’t flattering.


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He also isn't the first former natsec official to criticize a sitting President, either

Trump is going to revoke more before this is over, and it has nothing to do with risks to nat security

I would agree that Trump's critics are much mire acrimonious than Obama's or Bush's but Trump has a habit of setting that climate himself


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CID1990 wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Yup. Trump cited his commentary, which isn’t flattering.
I would agree that Trump's critics are much mire acrimonious than Obama's or Bush's but Trump has a habit of setting that climate himself.
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Anyone who is not currently working for the government should not have a security clearance or access to info. If needed they can be restored quickly. What do ex members of the government need it, for, other than a status symbol?


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css75 wrote:Anyone who is not currently working for the government should not have a security clearance or access to info. If needed they can be restored quickly. What do ex members of the government need it, for, other than a status symbol?


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dbackjon wrote:
css75 wrote:Anyone who is not currently working for the government should not have a security clearance or access to info. If needed they can be restored quickly. What do ex members of the government need it, for, other than a status symbol?


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You want to know why Trump has called the MSM the enemy of the people? Listen to this idiot from the NYT.
The really sad part is that Trip and dback probably agree with her. :dunce:
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