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On Assange: I am not sure, but I have been under the impression that Wikileaks hacks into other people's accounts. To me that's not journalism. To me, if a journalist breaks into somebody's office and photographs files then reports on what is in those files they broke the law by breaking into somebody's office to steal information. And that's what somebody is doing when someone breaks into an electronic account of any kind. People that break into other people's electronic accounts are the worst and the book should be thrown at them when they are caught.
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I'm with CID here. Maybe a slap on the wrist but he doesn't deserve the book thrown at him.

Now if he sexually assaulted those Swedes, that's a separate matter.
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∞∞∞ wrote:I'm with CID here. Maybe a slap on the wrist but he doesn't deserve the book thrown at him.

Now if he sexually assaulted those Swedes, that's a separate matter.
I dunno. To me people who hack other people's electronic accounts should pretty much be drawn and quartered when they are caught. Those people are the worst. Disgusting. The world would be a whole hell of a lot better without them.
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CID1990 wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: Have to agree to disagree here. I agree that espionage is a stretch, but the little fvcker shouldn’t be allowed to skate. Nail him for hacking, and let his cell mate Bubba do his worst.
In the grand hierarchy of douchebags involved in this whole fiasco, I consider Assange to be the least onerous

Remember - the Assanges of the world have zero juice without the actual traitors- the Snowdens, the Mannings, the gov workers and staffers who leak classified to the NYT, etc etc

We already said “no biggie” to Manning for his rap album... now we’re going after his label distributor? Call me nonplussed


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∞∞∞ wrote:I'm with CID here. Maybe a slap on the wrist but he doesn't deserve the book thrown at him.

Now if he sexually assaulted those Swedes, that's a separate matter.
I dunno. To me people who hack other people's electronic accounts should pretty much be drawn and quartered when they are caught. Those people are the worst. Disgusting. The world would be a whole hell of a lot better without them.
Your government does it on a daily basis.
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BDKJMU wrote:Bibi wins! (And this probably deserves it own thread).
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Great news, he is Trump’s biggest supporter internationally.


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I’m fine with going after Assange for hacking. That is a cross-border crime and therefore applies wherever the hacked info or damage occurred.

But I do not know of anything Wikileaks hacked from the USG. He could be on the hook for conspiracy with Manning, but I’m not seeing much there.

Manning’s decision to be a traitor was the cause of this entire fiasco. Not Assange.

If we are going to go after Assange with hammers and tongs because he spread info that was given to him by a traitor, then somebody explain to me why we aren’t doing it with the NYT editorial board. It is the same thing.


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CID1990 wrote:I’m fine with going after Assange for hacking. That is a cross-border crime and therefore applies wherever the hacked info or damage occurred.

But I do not know of anything Wikileaks hacked from the USG. He could be on the hook for conspiracy with Manning, but I’m not seeing much there.

Manning’s decision to be a traitor was the cause of this entire fiasco. Not Assange.

If we are going to go after Assange with hammers and tongs because he spread info that was given to him by a traitor, then somebody explain to me why we aren’t doing it with the NYT editorial board. It is the same thing.


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That will be the thing and that's why it appears they are going after the idea that he either hacked it himself or he was complicit in the hacking. They know they can't win a court case on the simple dissemination of the material - freedom of the press, which is what keeps the NYT safe (and keeps any newspaper safe) is far too established to try it on those charges. They better be sure they can get the conviction, though, if they're going to bring him over here, or this will be a public relations fiasco.
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Lots of people moving to Idaho last year.


Top inbound states
Idaho 72%
Arizona 67%
South Carolina 63%
Tennessee 62%
North Carolina 61%

Top outbound states
Illinois 69%
California 64%
New Jersey 63%
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Maryland 58%

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Winterborn wrote:Lots of people moving to Idaho last year.


Top inbound states
Idaho 72%
Arizona 67%
South Carolina 63%
Tennessee 62%
North Carolina 61%

Top outbound states
Illinois 69%
California 64%
New Jersey 63%
Pennsylvania 61%
Maryland 58%

http://www.northamerican.com/migration-map
It's just weird math because it was already such a small number. I mean, with 6.93 people coming in last year, you'd only need something close to another 6.93 people this year to get a big jump year to year. Funny math. :coffee:
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GannonFan wrote:
Winterborn wrote:Lots of people moving to Idaho last year.


Top inbound states
Idaho 72%
Arizona 67%
South Carolina 63%
Tennessee 62%
North Carolina 61%

Top outbound states
Illinois 69%
California 64%
New Jersey 63%
Pennsylvania 61%
Maryland 58%

http://www.northamerican.com/migration-map
It's just weird math because it was already such a small number. I mean, with 6.93 people coming in last year, you'd only need something close to another 6.93 people this year to get a big jump year to year. Funny math. :coffee:
Out of the 6.93 needed, over half of that is covered with the 4 people I know (cousins family and 2 friends) that moved there last year. Montana folks might need to watch out in case there is spill over.
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It's just weird math because it was already such a small number. I mean, with 6.93 people coming in last year, you'd only need something close to another 6.93 people this year to get a big jump year to year. Funny math. :coffee:
Out of the 6.93 needed, over half of that is covered with the 4 people I know (cousins family and 2 friends) that moved there last year. Montana folks might need to watch out in case there is spill over.
Idaho is a wierd State. They spend little on transportation and education, and have a few culturally progressive resort towns surrounded by Mormons in the south and toothless hillbillies in the north.
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kalm wrote:
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Out of the 6.93 needed, over half of that is covered with the 4 people I know (cousins family and 2 friends) that moved there last year. Montana folks might need to watch out in case there is spill over.
Idaho is a wierd State. They spend little on transportation and education, and have a few culturally progressive resort towns surrounded by Mormons in the south and toothless hillbillies in the north.
The two friends I know moved to Boise (he is an rehab doctor and his wife had a bakery here in Lakes Country), my cousins family moved to the toothless hillbillies area. They decided they had enough of Alaska and decided to move South.

Have been through the state a couple of times and I like the scenery, just didn't seem like there was much industry in the state.
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Winterborn wrote:Lots of people moving to Idaho last year.


Top inbound states
Idaho 72%
Arizona 67%
South Carolina 63%
Tennessee 62%
North Carolina 61%

Top outbound states
Illinois 69%
California 64%
New Jersey 63%
Pennsylvania 61%
Maryland 58%

http://www.northamerican.com/migration-map
99.9% of those people going to SC are going to Charleston.

The place is a disaster and a traffic nightmare now


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Winterborn wrote:
kalm wrote:
Idaho is a wierd State. They spend little on transportation and education, and have a few culturally progressive resort towns surrounded by Mormons in the south and toothless hillbillies in the north.
The two friends I know moved to Boise (he is an rehab doctor and his wife had a bakery here in Lakes Country), my cousins family moved to the toothless hillbillies area. They decided they had enough of Alaska and decided to move South.

Have been through the state a couple of times and I like the scenery, just didn't seem like there was much industry in the state.
I haven’t been to Boise in years but in all fairness I know it was on the upswing for quite some time with the tech industry. Very clean city with a low crime rate. Post Falls and CDA are also growing and adding industry. There is practically a zero inventory of homes in the Spokane - CDA metro area.
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Winterborn wrote:
Top outbound states
Illinois 69%
California 64%
New Jersey 63%
Pennsylvania 61%
Maryland 58%


http://www.northamerican.com/migration-map
Meanwhile, in Delaware:

Population 1990 / 2000 / 2010 / Present (with growth% since 1990), per US Census:

Townsend 322 / 346 / 2,049 / 2,313 (718%)
Middletown 3,834 /6,161/18,871/20,876 (544%)
Millsboro 1,643 / 2,360 / 3,877 / 7,000 (426%)
Ocean View 606 / 1,006 / 1,882 / 2,076 (343%)
Dagsboro 398 / 519 / 805 / 878 (221%)
Smyrna 5,231 / 5,679 / 10,023 / 11,371 (217%)
Milton 1,417 / 1,657 / 2,576 / 2,879 (203%)
Georgetown 3,732 / 4,643 / 6,422 / 7,206 (193%)
Milford 6,040 / 6,732 / 9,559 / 10,979 (182%)
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93henfan wrote:
Winterborn wrote:
Top outbound states
Illinois 69%
California 64%
New Jersey 63%
Pennsylvania 61%
Maryland 58%


http://www.northamerican.com/migration-map
Meanwhile, in Delaware:

Population 1990 / 2000 / 2010 / Present (with growth% since 1990), per US Census:

Townsend 322 / 346 / 2,049 / 2,313 (718%)
Middletown 3,834 /6,161/18,871/20,876 (544%)
Millsboro 1,643 / 2,360 / 3,877 / 7,000 (426%)
Ocean View 606 / 1,006 / 1,882 / 2,076 (343%)
Dagsboro 398 / 519 / 805 / 878 (221%)
Smyrna 5,231 / 5,679 / 10,023 / 11,371 (217%)
Milton 1,417 / 1,657 / 2,576 / 2,879 (203%)
Georgetown 3,732 / 4,643 / 6,422 / 7,206 (193%)
Milford 6,040 / 6,732 / 9,559 / 10,979 (182%)

So it is like the Hotel California, people can check in but can't check out? :shock:
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Winterborn wrote:
93henfan wrote:
Meanwhile, in Delaware:

Population 1990 / 2000 / 2010 / Present (with growth% since 1990), per US Census:

Townsend 322 / 346 / 2,049 / 2,313 (718%)
Middletown 3,834 /6,161/18,871/20,876 (544%)
Millsboro 1,643 / 2,360 / 3,877 / 7,000 (426%)
Ocean View 606 / 1,006 / 1,882 / 2,076 (343%)
Dagsboro 398 / 519 / 805 / 878 (221%)
Smyrna 5,231 / 5,679 / 10,023 / 11,371 (217%)
Milton 1,417 / 1,657 / 2,576 / 2,879 (203%)
Georgetown 3,732 / 4,643 / 6,422 / 7,206 (193%)
Milford 6,040 / 6,732 / 9,559 / 10,979 (182%)

So it is like the Hotel California, people can check in but can't check out? :shock:
Yes, and then they get to the tax haven, bitch about the lack of infrastructure and services, and vote to raise the taxes, seize the guns, and make life tough for the farmers, all while making the tranquil beaches that drew them here into a bustling nightmare.
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93henfan wrote:
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So it is like the Hotel California, people can check in but can't check out? :shock:
Yes, and then they get to the tax haven, bitch about the lack of infrastructure and services, and vote to raise the taxes, seize the guns, and make life tough for the farmers, all while making the tranquil beaches that drew them here into a bustling nightmare.
Almost sounds like you need a wall. :D
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93henfan wrote:
Winterborn wrote:

So it is like the Hotel California, people can check in but can't check out? :shock:
Yes, and then they get to the tax haven, bitch about the lack of infrastructure and services, and vote to raise the taxes, seize the guns, and make life tough for the farmers, all while making the tranquil beaches that drew them here into a bustling nightmare.
We are so fvcked.

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Ivytalk wrote:The gays have discovered Laurel, though.
You want that. They fixed the fuck out of Milford. They haven't seen a 1700s home they didn't want to restore downtown. The only thing is, I'm not sure the pink and purples are necessarily authentic to the colonial era, but who knows? I wasn't there.

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93henfan wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:The gays have discovered Laurel, though.
You want that. They fixed the **** out of Milford. They haven't seen a 1700s home they didn't want to restore downtown. The only thing is, I'm not sure the pink and purples are necessarily authentic to the colonial era, but who knows? I wasn't there.
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Ivytalk wrote:
93henfan wrote:
You want that. They fixed the **** out of Milford. They haven't seen a 1700s home they didn't want to restore downtown. The only thing is, I'm not sure the pink and purples are necessarily authentic to the colonial era, but who knows? I wasn't there.
The lesbians put window boxes all over Milton.
Yeah, Milton is the fucking Portland of Delaware now. Rehoboth is the San Francisco.
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Winterborn wrote:Lots of people moving to Idaho last year.


Top inbound states
Idaho 72%
Arizona 67%
South Carolina 63%
Tennessee 62%
North Carolina 61%

Top outbound states
Illinois 69%
California 64%
New Jersey 63%
Pennsylvania 61%
Maryland 58%

http://www.northamerican.com/migration-map
All of the inbound states are red states with possible exception of NC, outbound all solid blue.


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