That happened once.D1B wrote:All home and craft brews taste like shit and give everyone Cholera after they drink it.89Hen wrote: I accept your surrender. When you have to smoke pot to understand your arguements, I've won. See you on the next thread.
Ibanez wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/0 ... ostpopular
Article on the number of pot overdoses each year
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D1B wrote:Ibanez wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/0 ... ostpopular
Article on the number of pot overdoses each year
Hen to counter with - "So because people don't die, its safe.
What about that other dude on here who was debating one beer vs. one joint
Pretty much. I've never heard of anyone die of a nicotine overdose. Guess cigarettes are OK afterall.D1B wrote:Ibanez wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/0 ... ostpopular
Article on the number of pot overdoses each year
Hen to counter with - "So because people don't die, its safe.
89Hen wrote:Pretty much. I've never heard of anyone die of a nicotine overdose. Guess cigarettes are OK afterall.D1B wrote:
Hen to counter with - "So because people don't die, its safe.
Agreed. Trying to say that it's only dangerous if you die is ridiculous.D1B wrote:89Hen wrote: Pretty much. I've never heard of anyone die of a nicotine overdose. Guess cigarettes are OK afterall.
Who's argued it's "safe"?89Hen wrote:Pretty much. I've never heard of anyone die of a nicotine overdose. Guess cigarettes are OK afterall.D1B wrote:
Hen to counter with - "So because people don't die, its safe.
DB1 used the word "safe", not me.kalm wrote:Who's argued it's "safe"?89Hen wrote: Pretty much. I've never heard of anyone die of a nicotine overdose. Guess cigarettes are OK afterall.
When are you going to lead the charge to make steak and high fructose corn syrup illegal?
Sorry.89Hen wrote:DB1 used the word "safe", not me.kalm wrote:
Who's argued it's "safe"?
When are you going to lead the charge to make steak and high fructose corn syrup illegal?
If safe is a relative term, wouldn't relatively safe be redundant?kalm wrote:Sorry.89Hen wrote: DB1 used the word "safe", not me.
Safe is a relative term. For instance, when compared to alcohol, weed is relatively safe.
THC, the active ingredient in marijuana, "hijacks and corrupts" the natural process of endocannabinoids, a key family of chemicals that help guide the brain in proper maturation, says Ruben Baler, a neuroscientist with the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA). These chemicals "play key roles in memory formation, learning, decision-making,"
The concern, especially for young people, "is that you're performing suboptimally during those years when you should be working at peak levels of performance," he says. And with day-after-day use, the drug has a cumulative effect on achievement. Studies show that when marijuana is used chronically, "people achieve lower in academics, job performance and life satisfaction," says Baler. "It's difficult to understand why kids working so hard on their education would engage in an act that would lower their chance of success."
And, yes, marijuana is addictive, adds Baler. According to the NIDA, about nine percent of people who use marijuana become dependent on it. The number increases to about 1 in 6 among those who start using it at a young age, and to 25% to 50% among daily users.
Splitting hairs, 89kidsfuckedinmychurch.89Hen wrote:DB1 used the word "safe", not me.kalm wrote:
Who's argued it's "safe"?
When are you going to lead the charge to make steak and high fructose corn syrup illegal?
You certainly don't like having words put in your mouth. Kalm realized he misquoted. No biggie.D1B wrote:Splitting hairs89Hen wrote: DB1 used the word "safe", not me.
Did you see this campaign? Pretty savvy, IMO.89Hen wrote:You certainly don't like having words put in your mouth. Kalm realized he misquoted. No biggie.D1B wrote:
Splitting hairs
Stoners are smart.
Game on.
One day before the NFL season opener between the Denver Broncos and the Baltimore Ravens, a pro-marijuana group has erected a billboard in front of Sports Authority Field at Mile High urging the league to reconsider its harsh rules barring players from smoking pot.
The 48-foot-wide billboard tells the NFL to “stop driving players to drink,” while noting that voters in Colorado and Washington have legalized the recreational use of marijuana. "A safer choice is now legal (here),” the billboard states.
Mason Tvert, director of communications for the Marijuana Policy Project, says the group has also launched a Change.org petition to try and convince NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell to update the league’s policy.
"For years, the NFL has been punishing players for using marijuana despite the fact that it is far less harmful than alcohol, a substance widely embraced by the league," Tvert said in a statement. "The league would never punish a player simply for having a couple beers, so why does it penalize them for using a substance that is less toxic, less addictive, and less likely to contribute to violence.
"The NFL's harsh marijuana penalties do nothing to promote the health and safety of the players," Tvert said. "If anything, they put players in danger by steering them toward using alcohol and away from making the safer choice to use marijuana instead. We hope Commissioner Goodell will explain why the NFL is willing to promote the use of alcohol among its players and fans, but unwilling to recognize that a safer alternative is now legal here."
Shortly after Colorado and Washington legalized the recreational use of marijuana for adults, the NFL issued a statement making clear that the league did not plan to soften its stance against the drug.
"The NFL's policy is collectively bargained and will continue to apply in the same manner it has for decades," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello told USA Today last November. "Marijuana remains prohibited under the NFL substance abuse program."
The Marijuana Policy Project has taken to using billboards and signage at sporting and community events to push its message that pot is safer than alcohol. In July, a pro-marijuana ad produced by the group that was slated to coincide with NASCAR's Brickyard 400 was pulled from a Jumbotron after officials received complaints from the Drug Free America Foundation. Another billboard promoting marijuana as a safer choice than alcohol was vandalized at the start of Oregon's Beer and Wine Festival.
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Going out on a limb here to say... because it was illegal?"For years, the NFL has been punishing players for using marijuana despite the fact that it is far less harmful than alcohol, a substance widely embraced by the league," Tvert said in a statement. "The league would never punish a player simply for having a couple beers, so why does it penalize them for using a substance that is less toxic, less addictive, and less likely to contribute to violence.
Hen try to read and comprehend the whole story, versus just focusing on one paragraph. Grab a pad of paper and take notes if you have to. Identify the key idea or premise then identify supporting arguments, facts and statements.89Hen wrote:Going out on a limb here to say... because it was illegal?"For years, the NFL has been punishing players for using marijuana despite the fact that it is far less harmful than alcohol, a substance widely embraced by the league," Tvert said in a statement. "The league would never punish a player simply for having a couple beers, so why does it penalize them for using a substance that is less toxic, less addictive, and less likely to contribute to violence.
As Kalm said before... you're making this too hard. I understand what the people who paid for the billboard were going for, but to actually ask the question of why the NFL would punish players who break the law vs not breaking the law is stupid. You can't honestly debate that.D1B wrote:Hen try to read and comprehend the whole story, versus just focusing on one paragraph. Grab a pad of paper and take notes if you have to. Identify the key idea or premise then identify supporting arguments, facts and statements.89Hen wrote: Going out on a limb here to say... because it was illegal?
Keep trying.
Do they punish players for speeding tickets?89Hen wrote:As Kalm said before... you're making this too hard. I understand what the people who paid for the billboard were going for, but to actually ask the question of why the NFL would punish players who break the law vs not breaking the law is stupid. You can't honestly debate that.D1B wrote:
Hen try to read and comprehend the whole story, versus just focusing on one paragraph. Grab a pad of paper and take notes if you have to. Identify the key idea or premise then identify supporting arguments, facts and statements.
Keep trying.
kalm wrote:Do they punish players for speeding tickets?89Hen wrote: As Kalm said before... you're making this too hard. I understand what the people who paid for the billboard were going for, but to actually ask the question of why the NFL would punish players who break the law vs not breaking the law is stupid. You can't honestly debate that.
Nice try.The NFL has pushed for a mandatory suspension for any player who is convicted of an alcohol-related driving offense. An NFLPA source told FOX Sports that “players have been open to discussions and already discussed increasing discipline on DUIs.”
Yes, I would agree if the billboard was in Texas.89Hen wrote:As Kalm said before... you're making this too hard. I understand what the people who paid for the billboard were going for, but to actually ask the question of why the NFL would punish players who break the law vs not breaking the law is stupid. You can't honestly debate that.D1B wrote:
Hen try to read and comprehend the whole story, versus just focusing on one paragraph. Grab a pad of paper and take notes if you have to. Identify the key idea or premise then identify supporting arguments, facts and statements.
Keep trying.
Nice dodge.89Hen wrote:kalm wrote:
Do they punish players for speeding tickets?
The NFL has pushed for a mandatory suspension for any player who is convicted of an alcohol-related driving offense. An NFLPA source told FOX Sports that “players have been open to discussions and already discussed increasing discipline on DUIs.”
You missed the point again.89Hen wrote:kalm wrote:
Do they punish players for speeding tickets?
The NFL has pushed for a mandatory suspension for any player who is convicted of an alcohol-related driving offense. An NFLPA source told FOX Sports that “players have been open to discussions and already discussed increasing discipline on DUIs.”
I don't disagree it was smart, but that doesn't change the fact that the NFL "for years" punished illegal activity vs legal activity. The idiocy of the author questioning that is lost on you.D1B wrote:Yes, I would agree if the billboard was in Texas.89Hen wrote: As Kalm said before... you're making this too hard. I understand what the people who paid for the billboard were going for, but to actually ask the question of why the NFL would punish players who break the law vs not breaking the law is stupid. You can't honestly debate that.
But the billboard is in Colorado, where pot is legal. They're specifically targeting the Denver Broncos - to make a point. Brilliant move, IMO.
No dodge. A speeding ticket is a motor vehicle offense, not a crime. DUI is a crime. Pot possession and use is a crime. Your analogy missed.kalm wrote:Nice dodge.89Hen wrote:
I mentioned "speeding tickets" not DUI's. Speeding is a serious public safety issue which causes tons of injuries, damage to property, and deaths every year. Pot usage? Not so much. Possession of enough pot to last a casual user months is a misdemeanor...just like speeding is. But speeding is way more immoral.
But speeding is generally much more dangerous (to oneself and others) than sitting on the couch smoking a joint. Can you really not see the distinction between the two, regardless of legality, or are you just being your usual obstinate self?89Hen wrote:No dodge. A speeding ticket is a motor vehicle offense, not a crime. DUI is a crime. Pot possession and use is a crime. Your analogy missed.kalm wrote:
Nice dodge.
I mentioned "speeding tickets" not DUI's. Speeding is a serious public safety issue which causes tons of injuries, damage to property, and deaths every year. Pot usage? Not so much. Possession of enough pot to last a casual user months is a misdemeanor...just like speeding is. But speeding is way more immoral.
